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Gurman: Apple Testing 'M3 Pro' Chip for MacBook Pro With 12-Core CPU and 18-Core GPU
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I think I am gonna keep my M1Pro 16" until it dies. For my purpose it's more than enough. But, if 15" MBA gonna have same gorgeous display like my MBP, I may consider buying it.
Apple still considers the mini-LED display with promotion to be a pro feature so getting it on the MBA is unlikely. i would expect a 15” MBA to be pretty much just a 13” MBA after a growth spurt. It’s still a really good screen but not up the level of the Pro line.
Guess we know you be keeping your MBP for awhile.
Also it will be the MBA'a Stereo speakers with high dynamic range vs MBP's High-fidelity six-speaker sound system with force-cancelling woofers too for Spatial Audio.
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Pro users are forced to upgrade to 32GB on a Pro MacBook for a lot of money.
16GB is too small for a Pro model these days.
I own an Air M2 and my 16 GB RAM is maxed out when using Lightroom, Photoshop and also Davinici Resolve, I have to make sure I don't have any other tasks open so there is no memory swap to the SSD.
I'm only doing this as a hobby, I'm not a pro user and I'm already reaching the limits of the RAM.
The models with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD also drop in price quite quickly, an upgrade to 32 GB is charged from the introductory price and is therefore even more expensive than just $400 or €460.
For normal users, 8 GB of RAM is also sufficient, which cannot be exhausted with office work and surfing the net. These people don't need a Pro model, they are very well served with an MB Air.
A Pro model simply has to have more than just 16 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD in the basic version!
Even though some of the stuff in this article just don't make much sense to me (especially that odd 36GB RAM number, which is not a multiply of 8) I'm still pretty excited and looking forward to what Apple will actually do with the M3 series ! I'm not considering upgarding or anything though, I already have a base-model M2 13" MBP that works juat fine for me, never really had any issues with it so far even though it only has 8GB RAM lol .. but this is most likely because I'm not a very heavy laptop user. I guess I'll just keep it until it dies.
I'm also looking forward to the new macOS 14. I heard it won't be a very big "upgarde" but considering Ventura wasn't honestly a big upgrade either, it'd be cool if it was like a revamped update rather than an actual big upgrade. There are already too many features anyway, so I don't really see what more they could add 😅.
I'm also looking forward to the new macOS 14. I heard it won't be a very big "upgarde" but considering Ventura wasn't honestly a big upgrade either, it'd be cool if it was like a revamped update rather than an actual big upgrade. There are already too many features anyway, so I don't really see what more they could add 😅.
I can see that as well .. if those rumors were even true, it'd be cool but probably also very costly. Definitely sounds like something Apple would do. 🫠
The glowing Apple logo was such a cool thing to see ! Looked so beautiful and was truly iconic. It's quite sad Apple has removed it .. I doubt they'll ever bring it back though considering it was removed I think in order to make the lids thinner, which would make it harder to make a logo that shines through it.
I don’t disagree but I think what a lot of people miss is that you’d go from having these options:
512 / 16GB: $1999
1TB / 32GB: $2599
To this option:
1TB / 32GB: $2599
So we’re getting our wish, but gaining nothing. “Starting at $2599” is a marketing nightmare and would push many users to spend less on a MBA or even worse consider a Windows laptop. Some people want the other features of the MBP, like the screen, speakers, I/O, etc. and don’t need the beefy internals. You can be an “pro” and not need all of that RAM and SSD space. Enterprises likely find those machines enticing as well.
What we should be asking for is for the SSD and RAM upgrades to be more affordable. Eliminating options for other consumers doesn’t make a lot of sense.
To expand on this. I think a number of factors make it harder to do now.
It was removed because it was seriously impacting panel quality. You basically had a hole in your lid that let environmental light shine through and ruin your screen's accuracy. At the same time, Apple really values content accuracy, so it was logical to ditch it.
The light it emitted was also just the LED backlight used for the LCD. Today we have two new technologies either implemented or always rumoured to be planned for upcoming models, Mini-LED and OLED, that would bring extreme unevenness to a glowing Apple-logo. It would essentially mean that they would have to implement a separate light for the logo this time around.
While not impossible to re-implement, it would complicate the product. So question is if the designers at Apple consider it worth it or not.
If you are using that much memory with Firefox, chances are 36GB won’t help much, other than may be slightly delaying the inevitable. You may have better luck with 64 GB.
I will upgrade my M1 Max probably to M5 or M6 or when ever Apple can support 128 GB Ram on 16 MBP.
My take on that 36GB odd number: The next gen will have 12GB modules instead of 8GB modules. Following that logic, the base M3 (non pro) models could start with 12GB, then 24 and 36 as upgrades. And the Pro lineup could start at 24GB with 36GB and 46 as an upgrade.
Just my two cents.
Firefox is the only modern browser that facilitates ad blocking and anti tracking tech.
I would love cheaper storage and RAM memory. When I bought my MacBook Pro M1 Max in 2021 the storage and RAM pricing killed my excitement. At the moment I am doing just fine with 2 terabytes of SSD but I wish I had bought the 4 terabytes model but it was too expensive and I couldn't justify the price.
I will upgrade my Macbook Pro when M4 or M5 comes out and will have microLED instead of the current mini-LED screen technology. When I am working or watching HDR content the blooming around the black background is noticeable.
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I thought Safari comes with anti-tracking features like iCloud+ Private Relay and Intelligent Tracking Prevention. I am using Safari as my main browser and it does the job against the trackers. Apple should come with some intelligent ad blockers. I hate ads even though it's a source of revenue for the websites.
It does. One should be using private windows in both browsers anyway if you want to avoid numerous cookies, databases, local storage of stuff designed to track you.* Besides Safari is a lot faster than Firefox running Speedometer2.1. (measures the responsiveness of Web applications)
Using 13.4 RC2 AS platform
Firefox 113.0.1 = 303
Safari Version 16.5 (18615.2.9.11.4) = 365
*exception is the way Netflix requires a cookie to authenticate.
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Personally I rather spend money on Ram than storage. I have external storage of 4TB which is pretty fast. I haven’t gone over 1 TB MBP. I would hate to spend money on 2 TB or 4 TB if I needed it.
I maxed out the RAM memory and I have no regrets so far but the memory leaks in macOS Ventura makes it look like it has Chrome and Firefox open at the same time with 100 tabs in each browser. I hope Apple will fix this bug as it is very annoying. Maybe macOS Ventura 13.5 will iron this bug. If not, my last hope is macOS 14.
I know the RAM chips are on the same System on a Chip, but you’ll agree with me that there are different RAM configurations, and those are currently factors of 8GB even in M1 SoC. SoCs with 16GB for instance will have two of this memory chips soldered and so on…
All I’m saying is that the single chip soldered to the SoC won’t be 8GB but 12GB each. Oh, and if you still don’t understand what I mean, just take a look at an A12X or an M1 SoC, and you’ll see the RAM chips by yourself.
Anyways, mine was just a wild guess, just to put a bit of logic to that 36GB memory number. And in my opinion, my theory is pretty solid, we already have 24GB as RAM configuration for the M2 (two chips of 12GB each).
I’m curious, does @leman, @ian87w or others know how this rumored 36G M3 Pro with 12 CPU cores / 18 GPU cores might stack up against a 32G M1 Max with 10 core CPU / 32 core GPU?
I’m just curious about informed speculation on whether if could possibly match, exceed or fall behind the M1 Max CPU / GPU performance with clock speeds, memory bandwidth, power and other factors considered.
Thoughts?
I’m just curious about informed speculation on whether if could possibly match, exceed or fall behind the M1 Max CPU / GPU performance with clock speeds, memory bandwidth, power and other factors considered.
Thoughts?
M3 looks really amazing. Pretty wild that some reviews showed that it will be around as fast as the M1 pro in multicore!
Disappointed that the new 15" air model coming out won't be using it. Would be such a good machine. Might have to wait until 2024 to make that jump. The M2 was underwhelming and just a slightly overclocked M1 for the most part.
Disappointed that the new 15" air model coming out won't be using it. Would be such a good machine. Might have to wait until 2024 to make that jump. The M2 was underwhelming and just a slightly overclocked M1 for the most part.