I agree about the front screen but also think that was their way of trying to hide all of the cameras that are included in the front… to decrease the creepy camera-always-looking feeling? But then again, it also is NOT made for outdoor use or walking around in public… But yeah, that front system adds to the weight and battery needs.
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Gurman: No Apple Vision Pro 2 Launch Planned Before End of 2026
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I don't remember what reviewer said this...but I believe the killer feature is telepresence. The first time I looked at my own panorama photos with AVP, I was instantly transported to the hotel balcony where it was shot and I instantly wished I had taken 100x more panorama photos over the past 8 years. It is SO MUCH better than regular photos, regardless of size.
When I saw the sample birthday footage during my AVP demo, I actually 'felt' like I was there, even though I had no idea who those people were...and I instantly wished I had that type of footage of my own kids at that age (which I'll experiment with via AI to produce quasi-3D video)
VR180 and V360 enable you to 'visit' places you'll probably never visit in real life...being able to 'stand on the shoulders' of younger, more athletic hikers and explorers (or just people who have more time and patience to navigate the airports, VISAs, crappy hotels, tents, etc). I've seen photos and videos of the Egyptian pyramids, Machu Picchu, etc - and it doesn't feel like I'm there. Those are places that would cost more than AVP to see myself - and the AVP makes it feel like I'm there. I'm just waiting for the footage...Apple et al are way behind on this, but having a faster processor or lighter headset won't fix that.
So there's your killer app - telepresence. And for that, you're damn right I'll endure the cost, weight, heat, wonky OS, and other issues!
"Flummoxed"? Here, free advice. Just make what everyone thought it would be 3-4 years ago: a media consumption device. I know Apple NEEDS a new market to continue the whole "infinite growth" investors want, but "spatial computing" isn't it. If you're going to continue trying to refine the Vision, make a much lighter one focused on the only thing consumers have worn VR headsets for than 30 minutes to experience in the past 10 years, media and games. Everyone using it as a "computer" is doing so to justify spending $3500 on a dev kit. V2 needs physical controllers to give devs the option and the ability to easily port existing software from other platforms and interface with things like Steam VR. Oh, and make a strap that evenly distributes the weight and doesn't just look good in marketing.
Right. Remember when the Apple Watch launched, and there was all kinds of hype about enhanced messaging, drawing things with your finger, sending your heartbeat and all that? Eventually it became what everyone predicted it would become, just another fitness tracker. Same deal with the scuba mask from Hell. All this drivel about "spatial computing", if it survives at all it will be as just another content consumption device.
All the armchair executives in this thread remind me of all the people screaming for plastic backs and SD card slots on iPhones back in the day. If you look at the AVP and think "Apple should make it cheaper and worse", you haven't been paying attention for the last 20 years.
It’s already dead and won’t have a successor.
They needed the front screen. They were trying to mimic ski goggles where people are comformable talking to people who are wearing bulky eye gear because they can see their eyes. I still think there’s value to it but do they need 3d-like OLED screens? Of course not. They’re going to need a similar solution where you can see people’s eyes but less creepy and less expensive. For the cheap models, they can just use some kind of lighting system similar to the top of a homepod. It’s just 3 leds.
The rest of your points I agree with with the exception of the magnet part. Magnets are super cheap and elegant.
The watch also received a not so warm welcome and they managed to get some traction with a few iterations.
I don't think the AVP is similar but who knows what can happen after some improvements and price reductions and most important some kind of definitive use case.
Let me guess......GURMAN again???? Then we better put some money aside to buy the new one. This guy hasnt been right about his own birthdate yet.
Apple does not plan to launch a second-generation version of its Vision Pro headset until the end of 2026, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reports.
Writing in the latest edition of his "Power On" newsletter, Gurman said Apple's latest Vision Pro roadmap "doesn't currently call for a second-generation model until the end of 2026." In February 2024, he said that the device was "at least 18 months away."
According to Gurman's sources, Apple is still trying to figure out a way to bring a cheaper version to market before then, although the company remains "flummoxed" by how exactly to bring down the cost.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo in February said he believes new Vision Pro models with significant changes to the specification may not enter mass production until 2027.
At the time, Kuo said he did expect a modified Vision Pro to enter mass production in late 2025 to early 2026, with Apple focused on improving costs and production. However, this leads him to believe that the "user experience will not differ from the current model." Indeed, it is even possible that these changes will not be announced to the public, beyond a potential price cut.
Apple is expected to release the Vision Pro in additional countries before WWDC in June, with reports that the device could be coming to China as soon as next month.
Article Link: Gurman: No Apple Vision Pro 2 Launch Planned Before End of 2026
LMFAO
The non bias saw this coming a mile off.
I like Apple products but it was so so obvious this thing was a massive joke and they got cocky thinking they could charge whatever they want because sheep will buy it.
The jokers failed to realise the world isn't like that anymore and people can't waste $4000 on a toy, Tim needed a wake up call and needs to go.
Years wasted on this trash and the car. failure.
The non bias saw this coming a mile off.
I like Apple products but it was so so obvious this thing was a massive joke and they got cocky thinking they could charge whatever they want because sheep will buy it.
The jokers failed to realise the world isn't like that anymore and people can't waste $4000 on a toy, Tim needed a wake up call and needs to go.
Years wasted on this trash and the car. failure.
Remember what happened to the HomePod. The market segment is just too small for this type of device, at this price point. Apple needs products that sell 50 million a year to move the needle.
They tried to make it look slick, but you can't put lipstick....
They tried to make it look slick, but you can't put lipstick....
As I said from day 1, how quickly Apple releases v2 will tell us how serious they are about making it work. If v2 isn't until 2026, this thing is DOA. It's unfortunate because it looks cool.
The iPhone was an incredible success because it replaced tens of other products and devices (cameras, phones, calculators, notebooks, etc etc) . What does the VisionPro replace? At best, other Apple devices.
Hey hey, remember when all the paid shills and sheep kept posting videos on social media for a week of them wearing this stupid thing in public on skateboards and eating Chinese!!!
Then they sent them back.
what a time to be alive. 🤣
Then they sent them back.
what a time to be alive. 🤣
The watch was different. It received a warm welcome by Verge.
"here’s no question that the Apple Watch is the most capable smartwatch available today. If you’re going to buy an Apple Watch, I’d recommend buying a Sport model; I wouldn’t spend money on how it looks until Apple completes the task of figuring out what it does."
Source: https://www.theverge.com/a/apple-watch-review
Compared to the Vision Pro:
"And the biggest tradeoff of all is that using the Vision Pro is such a lonely experience, regardless of the weird ghost eyes on the front"
Source: https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price
I think the Verge actually said it best in the Apple Watch review:
"In order to be successful, any given piece of wearable technology has to be useful the entire time it’s on your body. Prescription glasses sit on your face, but improve your vision all the time, so they’re successful. Sunglasses sit on your face and make you look cooler all the time, so they’re successful. Google Glass sits on your face, but mostly does nothing, so it’s a failure. It’s a simple formula."
What's the usefulness of the Vision Pro?
"What's the usefulness of the Vision Pro?" Obviously none for you. Why do you care what other people buy and enjoy ?
Or they'll discontinue it as they did with Home Pod. Makes some cost cutting tweaks. Then re-release it. Then further drop the price a year later from there.
The only ones that will actually care are the 20 people that bought Version 1...
Be honest, you were gonna do it anyway.
Lmao! Flummoxed as to how to reduce the price? They could fly me out there, I'd type it into the computer and hit "Enter".
Apple should take a page out of Amazon's playbook. "Your margin is our opportunity". Apple could have lost money on this and sold a ton more units, gotten the ball rolling, received praise for moving the industry forward towards mass adoption, etc. I'm thinking $1999 would have accomplished this, or especially at $1499. These prices would have genuinely kept Mark Zuckerberg up at night. Now, after seeing the predictable market reaction, Meta aren't worried at all.
Apple should take a page out of Amazon's playbook. "Your margin is our opportunity". Apple could have lost money on this and sold a ton more units, gotten the ball rolling, received praise for moving the industry forward towards mass adoption, etc. I'm thinking $1999 would have accomplished this, or especially at $1499. These prices would have genuinely kept Mark Zuckerberg up at night. Now, after seeing the predictable market reaction, Meta aren't worried at all.
