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Handbrake 0.9.4 Released.
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It is for the no-cost version.
If you "donate" to the project, you will be sent a newer version which is an Intel (32-bit) binary.
Hi. I used DVD Decrypter on Win 7. I got a setting wrong originally, and it garbled up the video, but I tried it again, and it worked ok.
The problem now, is that Handbrake won't accept the rip!
I'll try it again tonight, just to be sure.
I tried to rip using MTR first...just ripped the main movie from Goldfinger...it's an hour and 45 long and came out about 5.9GB. That took 25 mins.
I then opened up Handbrake and imported the file and just used the default settings that it suggested and that took 1 hour 10 mins to encode with a frame rate of just over 40.
The resulting file came out at just over 1GB. Do them figures seem slow or is that the going rate?
Using a new 13"MBP,2.53GHz,4GB ram.
Also,the CPU temp was up in the 90's!! Could nearly fry an egg on it!! lol
Where is the explanation for the new slider settings?
I'd like to know how the two version correspond too, as it's not explained anywhere.
I'd like to know how the two version correspond too, as it's not explained anywhere.
That sounds completely normal for your specs. It's actually a pretty decent speed. Really, with h.264 encoding, anything faster than real-time (the length of the video being encoded) is not bad.
The ripping part is what seems a little slow. 25 minutes to rip a single film is a bit of a long time, though not abnormal if you have a slower DVD read speed.
Not sure about the temp though. I'm not sure what a normal/high temp is for a computer doing processor-intensive video encoding.
The RF values are the same for both versions. However 0.9.4 actually includes the proper RF value as well as HB's legacy % scale which was internally calculated to a proper rf value. The decision to actually show both in 0.9.4 was an effort to start users to refer to an actual RF value which is used in x264 and many high end video encoders and is really the proper reference to the " quality value " per se. HB's legacy % scale was frankly used previously as a convenience to the macgui's slider widget, but really had no relevance to an actual quality value as it is known in the video encoding world at large. In otherwords it was a bastardization of sorts.
I decided instead of just switching to RF I would include both values in the ui's so that people used to the percentage scale could have a point of reference. It is entirely conceivable and probably that the percent readout will disappear for HB 0.9.5 so I might suggest getting familiar with the corresponding RF value for you're favorite percentage with HB 0.9.4.
Having said all of that. The percentage or RF is the same between 0.9.3 and 0.9.4 however the x264 encoder is *much* newer and better in 0.9.4 and will typically give you better visual quality ( meaning the ultimate measure ... you're eyes ) at a lower file size and bitrate than 0.9.3 . This is not a guess but simple fact. tens of thousands of encodes have been done by devs and testers using the newer x264 in HB 0.9.4 and it is really indisputable across the board.
Huh
I just installed the 64-bit version of both Handbrake and VLC. I'm ripping a DVD as I type (Season 1 of Arrested Development), and I'm only getting an average of 28fps.
I'm running this on an Intel iMac 2.8 Core 2 Duo. Anyone know the reason why I'm not seeing the speed boost?
TIA.
I just installed the 64-bit version of both Handbrake and VLC. I'm ripping a DVD as I type (Season 1 of Arrested Development), and I'm only getting an average of 28fps.
I'm running this on an Intel iMac 2.8 Core 2 Duo. Anyone know the reason why I'm not seeing the speed boost?
TIA.
In Handbrake? I just selected the Apple presets but didn't change anything else.
ETA: I get a 27fps average using the Apple TV preset, and 71fps using the iPhone preset.
Funny, but I noticed just the opposite. Using 0.9.3 with Apple Universal setting bumped up to 63% CQ, loose anamorphic I was seeing files sizes usually between 2-3 GB for movies, give or take. Using the same settings with 0.9.4 (and turning on decomb filter), the 5 films I've done have ranged from 981 MB to 1.69 GB. Should allow me to wait a while longer now before upgrading my external media HDD
.That sounds about right. I get around 20-21 fps on a 2.33 Core 2 Duo using the 64 bit versions.
Totally depends on the source. If its clean with little complexity it will be faster than a very complex / or noisy source. You said you touched nothing else but it looks like you are encoding a dvd of a tv show which might have combing. I are you sure you do not have decomb on ? You should and if you do that will slow down the encode as it finds combed frames to deinterlace. Many variables to determine encoding speed. Also realize that an average of 10% speed bump for 64 bit will only translate to a 2.5 - 2.8 fps encoding boost at those speeds. Worth it yes but on a c2d thats about the diff between 32 bit and 64 bit.
It seems that I can't rip a commercial DVD(that I own) with the chapters intact, using DVD Decrypter for Windows.
Does anyone know of a program that will let me do this?
For DVD's that make myself, I can just copy the VIDEO_TS folder and Handbrake will do it's thing, no problem.
All i want to do, is rip my own DVD's, so I can watch my films on my iPhone.*
Does anyone know of a program that will let me do this?
For DVD's that make myself, I can just copy the VIDEO_TS folder and Handbrake will do it's thing, no problem.
All i want to do, is rip my own DVD's, so I can watch my films on my iPhone.*
DTS to AC3
So I've never fully understood this part of Handbrake. I have noticed that most blu ray rips that I come across are 5.1 DTS. I would like to convert that to 5.1 AC3 for digital playback on ATV. I've noticed that it will only convert the 5.1 DTS to AAC Dolby Surround or Dolby Pro Logic II. I mostly encode my 5.1 digital audio encodes with 2 sound tracks: One mixed down to AAC Dolby Pro Logic II and the 2nd one at AC3 Passthrough. I was hoping that a 5.1 DTS encode with AC3 passthrough would give me digital sound but no luck.
Is there any way from going from a source 5.1 DTS to 5.1 AC3?
So I've never fully understood this part of Handbrake. I have noticed that most blu ray rips that I come across are 5.1 DTS. I would like to convert that to 5.1 AC3 for digital playback on ATV. I've noticed that it will only convert the 5.1 DTS to AAC Dolby Surround or Dolby Pro Logic II. I mostly encode my 5.1 digital audio encodes with 2 sound tracks: One mixed down to AAC Dolby Pro Logic II and the 2nd one at AC3 Passthrough. I was hoping that a 5.1 DTS encode with AC3 passthrough would give me digital sound but no luck.
Is there any way from going from a source 5.1 DTS to 5.1 AC3?
Simple, HB does not have an Ac3 encoder. Existing DTS and Ac3 can be passed through but we have no way in HB to transcode from one to the other. So, the next available option is to encode to aac.
Thanks for the reply, and a great program BTW. So a follow up question I have is how would I passthrough the DTS audio? What would I select for the Audio Codec and the Mixdown selections? I'm a Windows user if that matters.
And do you know off the top of your head if the ATV play 5.1 DTS?
Thanks again.
Atv cannot play DTS with stock software since the mp4 spec does not include a DTS audio track. Hacked with perian it can play .mkv's ( albeit at a reduced decoding speed ) which does include DTS Passthru. which is the answer to you're first questions. mkv supports dts passthru.
Additonal note: I even tried fooling the atv by modding hb to pass thru a dts track into an mp4 but telling it its an ac3 track just to see. The atv was not fooled.
I'm sure I've read that the Apple TV does support DTS (but not in m4v format)
Yes, here it is: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/147048D8-D8B7-45E7-9A97-3CD5B4C2B75A.html
It's something that's stopping me ripping half of my collection as I want to preserve the DTS tracks and I don't want to hack my AppleTV to allow mkv playback. I guess all it needs is for Apple to draw up a standard and update the AppleTV to understand it, but I can't see it happening until the iTunes store introduces DTS - which is something else I can't see happening.
Dynaflash - when you tried to "trick" your AppleTV, did you try the file in VLC to see if that could understand it?
Yes, here it is: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/147048D8-D8B7-45E7-9A97-3CD5B4C2B75A.html
It's something that's stopping me ripping half of my collection as I want to preserve the DTS tracks and I don't want to hack my AppleTV to allow mkv playback. I guess all it needs is for Apple to draw up a standard and update the AppleTV to understand it, but I can't see it happening until the iTunes store introduces DTS - which is something else I can't see happening.
Dynaflash - when you tried to "trick" your AppleTV, did you try the file in VLC to see if that could understand it?
If you can get you're unhacked atv to play dts passthru in an mp4 video file using iTunes, then "heres to ya" ... and please share how you did it transferring from iTunes. the mp4 spec would only allow a dts track as what is called a private track ( which incidentally is how apple first passed ac3 audio in an mp4 ... before the spec was ammended to officially support it).
It is my belief that apple adopted support for AC3 in mp4 as an AC3 track is required by the dvd spec for all dvd's. Which sort of makes it a standard. Otoh, that is just an opinion and has little to do with fact. Take it for what its worth.
In addition: the site you link to only mentions dts in a .wav file which of course is audio. For the reasons I mention above in regards to movies ( .mp4 ) the same is not true for a video encode, which is the point of HandBrake.
It is my belief that apple adopted support for AC3 in mp4 as an AC3 track is required by the dvd spec for all dvd's. Which sort of makes it a standard. Otoh, that is just an opinion and has little to do with fact. Take it for what its worth.
In addition: the site you link to only mentions dts in a .wav file which of course is audio. For the reasons I mention above in regards to movies ( .mp4 ) the same is not true for a video encode, which is the point of HandBrake.
my experience from these two shows the 64-bit is a BIT better. below are two compressed pictures showing the differences. take note of the shine coming off of the beaker (?) - its quite hard to see the differences but they are there.
first is 32-bit, 2nd is 64-bit
i have also found the file size to be ALOT smaller on the new 64-bit
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Just did my first conversion. Used apple tv preset with constant quality at 60%, looks great. File size went from 6.56gb to 1.34 gb. I am very happy with the quality, but is there a way to make it even better? (doubt it can get much better than this)
Also, is there anyway change the resolution so it takes up my full screen (no black bars)? Without quality loss?
Also, is there anyway change the resolution so it takes up my full screen (no black bars)? Without quality loss?
Er, given the exact same settings on the exact same source with the same version of HandBrake, there is no way that the quality or file size can be any different between 32 bit or 64 bit HandBrake. Encoding speed will be the only difference.my experience from these two shows the 64-bit is a BIT better. below are two compressed pictures showing the differences. take note of the shine coming off of the beaker (?) - its quite hard to see the differences but they are there.
first is 32-bit, 2nd is 64-bit
i have also found the file size to be ALOT smaller on the new 64-bit
While you're still's are the same second of the movie, I doubt the exact same frame ( at 24 fps it could be any of 24 frames as well as a bframe or p frame, but I digress), I think that is what you are seeing as a diffrence here. I cannot explain what you see as a difference in file size between identical encodes. I suggest rechecking you're sources.
Now that I'm over my teething troubles (needed to rebuild the presets), I'm really getting stuck into this. I ripped Blade Runner from a DVD, using the Apple TV preset and no other changes. Very impressed with the result. Rips on the prior version of HB (admittedly on the iPhone preset) used to come out a little dark, and Blade Runner is a very dark move, so I was fearing the worst.
No need to worry. The rip is clear and vivid...and bright! It looks amazing on the big screen.
I'm definitely going to have to go back and re-rip a whole bunch of stuff.
No need to worry. The rip is clear and vivid...and bright! It looks amazing on the big screen.
I'm definitely going to have to go back and re-rip a whole bunch of stuff.
Indeed. The Apple TV preset is awesome. It's just a shame that there's no way to preserve the chapters with the rips.