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Handoff/Continuity Working on Any Non BT-4.0 Macs?
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Lol, I did. None of those 3 entries are even listed.
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Here is a screen shot of my system report on a early 2011 MBP
It says Continuity Supported: No
I hope this is not final
Strange. I have an early 2011 Macbook Pro and my Bluetooth read differently. Also why would they permit handoff on this mac if it was only via BT 4.0. I'm only going off the System Preferences screenshot on this. Surely that wouldn't be there if I couldn't use it on this mac.
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I have the early '11 MBP as well and showing the Handoff feature in System Prefs. However, mine says NO for support to BTLE.
Here is a screen shot of my system report on a early 2011 MBP
It says Continuity Supported: No
I hope this is not final
Early 15" 2011 MBP and same results.
Don't forget that handoff will probably work in conjunction with your iCloud address too (i.e won't handoff to an iMac if it's the wrong account logged in) so i imagine they will implement it with Bluetooth LE initially but fall back to Wifi if that isn't available on all devices. I imagine the BTLE one works somewhat at the moment but the Wifi implementation isn't working at all.
That's the only real way they could get this working on all devices.
Just a theory
That's the only real way they could get this working on all devices.
Just a theory
Don't forget that handoff will probably work in conjunction with your iCloud address too (i.e won't handoff to an iMac if it's the wrong account logged in) so i imagine they will implement it with Bluetooth LE initially but fall back to Wifi if that isn't available on all devices. I imagine the BTLE one works somewhat at the moment but the Wifi implementation isn't working at all.
That's the only real way they could get this working on all devices.
Just a theory
Well, the fact that there's a listing for continuity support indicates it won't be working on all devices. Also, I feel like they would've mentioned it in the release notes if a wifi implementation was coming. Hope you're right, though.
I don't think there have been any release notes citing hardware requirements yet, have there?
Sending/Recieving SMS texts on my Macbook Pro late 2011 without bluetooth 4.0 works. iCloud sync i think.
Same exact thing on my system report.
That is very interesting. I have the same exact Bluetooth configuration and my my say no, no, no. ? I think things will get sorted out down the road.
That is very interesting. I have the same exact Bluetooth configuration and my my say no, no, no. ? I think things will get sorted out down the road.
Did you check the readout in System Profiler? Did you look at the Handoff specs? Did you see the blog article Handoff feature in OS X Yosemite may only work on Macs with Bluetooth LE 4.0 support?
This isn't strange. This is continuity, not handoff. I have a 2011 MBP without BT 4.0/LE and can send/receive SMS over WiFi.
Handoff is different.
Calling/SMS is not Handoff(at the moment only got SMS working).
Handoff is resuming apps on your Mac.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I feel like handoff is probably going to work on Wi-Fi and not Bluetooth. For one thing, if you look at the Continuity page on Apple's website (both the Yosemite and iOS 8 pages link to it) none of the devices show bluetooth being turned on, in any of the screenshots on Apple's site. Granted, this could be a simple oversight on Apple's part, but I kind of doubt it. Also, I feel like I remember them mentioning during the keynote that it worked as long as you were on the same network. I've also gotten the handoff icons to show up on my 2011 iMac twice so far, though without much success actually using it. The 2011 iMac I'm using doesn't have Bluetooth LE support according to that chart, yet it still connected and sensed what app was being used on my iPhone...it just wouldn't actually open.
Again, I could be wrong here since there is just as much evidence to the contrary, but I'm trying to remain optimistic!
EDIT: I just re-watched the portion of the keynote demoing Handoff, and none of the devices shown had the Bluetooth status icon, indicating it was not turned on. Again, could be an oversight on Apple's part; I'm just passing on the information.
Again, I could be wrong here since there is just as much evidence to the contrary, but I'm trying to remain optimistic!
EDIT: I just re-watched the portion of the keynote demoing Handoff, and none of the devices shown had the Bluetooth status icon, indicating it was not turned on. Again, could be an oversight on Apple's part; I'm just passing on the information.
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You are correct. None of the devices had Bluetooth ON either in the demos at WWDC or on the Apple website. And Craig at one point when says even if your phone is across the house you don't have to worry about it. So I don't know.
I honestly think that SMS will sync through iCloud, phone calls will work over wifi and app handoffs will require bluetooth / proximity.
This sounds exactly like Apple described and was shown. Just one question still needs to be answered. Is Handoff a BT handshake and then file transfer over WiFi or is it all BT? If the former BT 2.0 could be easily used. Can't remember but did Apple say BT-LE (4) during the keynote?
Also if over BT, why not BT 3? BT 3 has the same file transfer data rate as LE but without the low energy mode (and a couple of other features).
EDIT: After looking at BDM's link it looks like Apple skipped BT 3, so that answers that question.
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BLE 4.0 USB 2/3.0 dongle
Here's a listing of all Mac's and their BlueTooth capabilities:
macs-with-bluetooth-different-bluetooth-capabilities
It's going to be a BlueTooth LE 4.0 USB 3.0 dongle for me!
~ Cheers
Here's a listing of all Mac's and their BlueTooth capabilities:
macs-with-bluetooth-different-bluetooth-capabilities
It's going to be a BlueTooth LE 4.0 USB 3.0 dongle for me!
~ Cheers
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I think Handoff may solely be based on BT LE, doesn't seem like much data to transfer? Though with something like the new AirPlay in iOS 8 with Apple TV, it'll use BT LE to initiate a connection and then wifi direct to stream (in the absence of a common wifi network).
There's probably something in the BT 4/LE spec that they're using / relying on.
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Another weird one I tried with Yosemite. Nothing about LE or continuity listed under bluetooth in System Report.
I've got a mid 2009 macbook which doesn't have BT LE and says no to continuity. The text messaging part works though. I can send text messages via iphone to other mobile users!!