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The cMP isn' quiet by any standard even idle..

The ball bearings and the blade design are probably the main culprits. There's been a lot of advancements in fans in the the last 8 years or so they were just never updated on it.
Mine's whisper quiet, especially when compared to my noisy coworkers.

The only time it gets loud is when it's earning lots of money.
 
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Mine's whisper quiet, especially when compared to my noisy coworkers.

The only time it gets loud is when it's earning lots of money.

Sound unless measured is pretty subjective..

Every time I think I want a MP I bring home my work MP and within 3 hours I know I don't want one here.
 
I recall an entire forum dedicated to that thing alone , lol , I was a member.. the noise that thing made and the things people went though to attempt to make it quieter...
Honestly after all the hype, reading about it in MacWorld at the time, I was expecting them to be noisier. Got 3 MDD I'm cannibalizing down—admittedly I don't know if any got the PSU replacement or the firmware update but they don't seem that bad, all things considered.
 
I know there are dozens of threads about this, but really....has Apple given up on the MP and shut down U.S. manufacturing for the MP?

I think it's ridiculous that the MP is almost 4 years old and hasn't seen 1 single update. That's 48 months of no updates. Within those 48 months, the Xeon line has seen about 3 generations of updates. GPUs about 2. RAM 2. ThunderBolt is 3. USB is 1.
Your point is valid, but GA was December 19, 2013. That's two years, six+ months of no updates.
 
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Sound unless measured is pretty subjective..

Every time I think I want a MP I bring home my work MP and within 3 hours I know I don't want one here.
I've had a half dozen oMPs, and unless they're rendering, nobody even knows they're on. My MacBook Pro's fans run more noisily.

What's in yours and what are you doing with it?
 
Your point is valid, but GA was December 19, 2013. That's two years, six+ months of no updates.

The specs are much older, though. At preceding WWDC announcement they were already finalized.

And, although, it's not a big deal if some parts are left 1 generation behind, some others are screaming. USB3 and GPUs being among the latter.
 
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I've had a half dozen oMPs, and unless they're rendering, nobody even knows they're on. My MacBook Pro's fans run more noisily.

What's in yours and what are you doing with it?

At work you can't hear it because the ambient noise downs it out home is another story.

I'm an "illustrator" which means I do everything from annotating and marking GIS maps, to cutting up interviews, to printing business cards.
 
Almost 3 years, and even at the time, the GPU/CPU were about 2 years old.

The E5 series Xeons came out in 2011/2012.

Not to mention ZERO speed bumps since December 19, 2013.

CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD prices have come down significantly.

For real. The lack of price drops, or spec bumps ... or both is beyond inexcusable at this point.

Of course bean counter Cook will look at the plummeting sales numbers and rather than say 'Hey we should update the prices and hardware' he'll say 'hmm its not selling well, guess we should stop making Mac Pro's'
 
Almost 3 years, and even at the time, the GPU/CPU were about 2 years old.

The E5 series Xeons came out in 2011/2012.

Not to mention ZERO speed bumps since December 19, 2013.

CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD prices have come down significantly.

The "E5-x6xx v2" CPUs came out in Q3 of 2013.

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78582/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v2-Family#@Server

When the MP6,1 was previewed at WWDC, it was using engineering samples of the v2 processor and/or "v1" processors. (Any 12-core was a v2, because "v1" topped out at 8.)
 
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At work you can't hear it because the ambient noise downs it out home is another story.

I'm an "illustrator" which means I do everything from annotating and marking GIS maps, to cutting up interviews, to printing business cards.
Are you working in a tomb without air conditioning? You'd better supply a decibel reading, It's pretty quiet most of the time where I am, home or office, and as I said, Nobody can tell any of my oMPs are even on.

I do illustration all the time, unless it's 3D rendering it doesn't stress an oMP to any extent, printing business cards is not noisy work. Maybe your interview editing is.
 
Are you working in a tomb without air conditioning? You'd better supply a decibel reading, It's pretty quiet most of the time where I am, home or office, and as I said, Nobody can tell any of my oMPs are even on.

I do illustration all the time, unless it's 3D rendering it doesn't stress an oMP to any extent, printing business cards is not noisy work. Maybe your interview editing is.
That's why I said without measurements quiet is relative.

My work apartment is small and only has me and no A/C, no refrigerator, etc. the ambient noise is low and that makes it loud. At work with the A/C, people, trucks, printers and such you can't hear it.
 
That's why I said without measurements quiet is relative.

My work apartment is small and only has me and no A/C, no refrigerator, etc. the ambient noise is low and that makes it loud. At work with the A/C, people, trucks, printers and such you can't hear it.
Unless you go water-cooled, I don't know what you're going to used that's quieter.
 
The "E5-x6xx v2" CPUs came out in Q3 of 2013.

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78582/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v2-Family#@Server

When the MP6,1 was previewed at WWDC, it was using engineering samples of the v2 processor and/or "v1" processors. (Any 12-core was a v2, because "v1" topped out at 8.)

v1 was earlier than Q3 of 2013. It's based on Haswell architecture.

It's not even the CPU that's the issue. The GPU is from 2011, RAM around that time too and PCIe SSD prices have dramatically dropped, even if it's ECC RAM.
 
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I know there are dozens of threads about this, but really....has Apple given up on the MP and shut down U.S. manufacturing for the MP?

I think it's ridiculous that the MP is almost 4 years old and hasn't seen 1 single update. That's 48 months of no updates. Within those 48 months, the Xeon line has seen about 3 generations of updates. GPUs about 2. RAM 2. ThunderBolt is 3. USB is 1.

It's insane to me that Apple would spend this much money on R&D for a new design and then just completely dump it.

Don't get me wrong, I love Apple, especially OS X. I am really thinking of (shock!) doing a Hackintosh but since I use Macs professionally I don't want to deal with being an IT and no warranty and technical issues during work.

I sold my beautiful 2010 cMP (2x3.46Ghz 12 core, Mac EFI 780GTX, 32GB RAM) a while ago because single threaded software like Photoshop were getting a little slow to my liking on the Westmere CPU....compared to my i7 Haswell MacBook Pro. Also tired of "customizing" a cMP. (If anyone has a successful Hackintosh pls pm me I'd love to know, I know this isn't the right place to ask but I'm looking for an "out").

Apple keeps putting in AMD GPUs, which ARE computationally superior to nVidia in OpenCL, but they fall flat in everything else outside of that. AMD is so behind and has a different mindset compared to nVidia (which goes for raw power) AMD goes for computational and low energy. But no one can deny the nVidia 1080/1070 performance at such low wattages.

Anywho, my rambling doesn't help. Very disappointed in Apple and so are thousands of other professionals which rely on these machines on a daily basis.
You see it as a disadvantage, I see it as a selling point...
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Unless you go water-cooled, I don't know what you're going to used that's quieter.
nMP is enough, no need for watercooling. Unless under heavy load it's not adding to the ambient noise, which is around 45 dB's in my apartment. For me it's impossible to hear if it's on or off. My cMP I could easily hear in this place when it was idle.
 
nMP is enough, no need for watercooling. Unless under heavy load it's not adding to the ambient noise, which is around 45 dB's in my apartment. For me it's impossible to hear if it's on or off. My cMP I could easily hear in this place when it was idle.
Everything was off at the office this morning when I came in, and my 2 office MacPros are whisper quiet as always.

How's the nMP with all 12 cores lit up for ten hours at a time? I'm tempted to get one to see if I can melt it, maybe when they're discontinued.
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They bringing "Rosetta" back?
 
nMP is enough, no need for watercooling. Unless under heavy load it's not adding to the ambient noise, which is around 45 dB's in my apartment. For me it's impossible to hear if it's on or off. My cMP I could easily hear in this place when it was idle.
According to Apple's published sound specifications the 2012 cMP falls below 45db's so how can you consider something quieter than the ambient noise loud?

https://support.apple.com/kb/SP652?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
 
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[doublepost=1468262979][/doublepost]Just an update.

Built a Skylake based mATX Hackintosh over the weekend and it's running beautifully. No issues whatsoever. Ran full 100% CPU/RAM tests over a few days and no issues whatsoever. Geekbench scores are more than 18,500.
 
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