People need to stop defending corporations. It's weird and anti-consumer.
I’ve said they’ve done wrong, I just don’t see it as some huge conspiracy. They should have been more transparent. They weren’t.
People need to stop defending corporations. It's weird and anti-consumer.
I agree.
Since news of the scandal broke, I have purchased 3 iPhone X's, 3 iPhone X leather cases, 4 Apple Care Warranties, 1 Apple Watch, and 1 Apple Watch strap.
There's your response.
Apple screws you over and it seems half the forum thinks it's inconsequential.
People need to stop defending corporations. It's weird and anti-consumer.
Apple need people like you to get huge profit I guess. Tim Cook should write a thank you letter and have a Apple metal for you. I am settled with Android. Thanks God, I don't have to deal with Apple anymore. Loving my Huawei P10 Plus
Prove it.
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If what you say is true, then you have a DEFECTIVE battery, and are due a FREE battery replacement by Apple's guidelines.
So go and get it.
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Ever thought that maybe Apple simply needs to adjust the thresholds on the throttling a bit. Sometimes people make mistakes, even ones that work for big, evil corporations like Apple.
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In a device as complex as a smartphone, the OEM actually DOES "decide" upon a zillion things you have absolutely NO IDEA about, but which are "decided" so you don't have to do things like:
1. Optimize Timer Coalesence. Makes a BIG difference in the overall performance of your smartphone.
2. Nice/Re-Nice Task Prioritization. Be it "Does the WiFi get a higher priority than the Audio playback?" or "Does a Display Tap get a higher priority than a Display Update?", etc, etc. Happens ALL the time, and can make a SIGNIFICANT difference in the moment-to-moment performance of your phone.
3. Background-App time-slicer. How much time each background task gets (and there are MANY background tasks), GREATLY affects not only your phone's moment-to-moment performance; but also battery-life.
ALL of these things (and many, MANY more!) are CONSTANTLY shuffled and re-shuffled, based on design-decisions by the manufacturer of the hardware and OS.
This was just another one of those things. Unfortunately, it was developed and released "under-the-gun" (iPhone 6 and 6s randomly shutting-down), and so was probably not tested and tweaked as much as Apple normally would. The consequence being that some people experienced enough of a performance-hit that it was no-longer the "transparent timing fix" they had hoped-for.
And the rest is history...
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Google.
Now THERE's a reputable, transparent company...
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And you think people wouldn't STILL bitch?
HOW long have you been on the internet?
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Actually, if even a small fraction of the nearly 829 MILLION NEW iPhone purchasers since 2014 (when the iPhone 6 came out) posted their displeasure regarding the iPhone 6 through iPhone 7 models' battery or performance, THE INTERNET WOULD BREAK! Each and every article regarding this issue on forums like MacRunors would have TENS or HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of UNIQUE POSTERS.
But it doesn't. From what I can tell, it's the same 100 people, whining, whining, whining.
Why?
Could it be because that, outside of these same, tired, Haters; this is a NON-ISSUE for the VAST majority of those 829 MEELION iPhone purchasers?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-fiscal-year-2007/
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Exactly!
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PERFECTLY Stated!
So 52.3% people in this thread vote either the issue is not overblown or apple received right amount of blacksladh and lost in trust. I guess that is small amount of iPhone users. Apparently not everybody is blindly follow Apple.
I wouldn't call Huawei is no name brand. This brand gets your country's Congress against this company. Majority of Canadian cellphone carrier use this Huawei equipment for cellaur service. This company is third largest cellphone maker. Fifth most innovative company in the world according to Forbs.
Very few iPhone fans have even read this thread, didn't even open it based on its title. When people don't have speed issues on their iPhone's they don't pay any attention.
I have never heard of Hawaii phones. But if they were so important you wouldn't be in an Apple forum, you'd be in the Hyundai forum talking about Hyundai phones and how great they are. I love my BMW's. You don't see me in Audi forums every time they have a PR problem.
Here's why:
Apple's demographic are people who can afford a new phone every 2 years and thus we never have slow phones. Those who are complaining are looking for the tooth fairy, a phone that can last 5 years without a slowdown. It's not happening.
It's not Apple being manipulative. It's Craigslist types being unrealistic. And looking for a handout. And acting entitled. And looking to this forum as a safe space.
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Corporations are filled with people who work hard and who work long hours and have families. Attacking these people is anti-humanity.
And if you opened your eyes and considered the big picture, look at what Apple has delivered to the world in the past decade, it's the most exceptional run any corporation has had since Edison invented the lightbulb. And you want them to be punished over some phony conspiracy around a couple of lines of code? Not happening. Apple is to be applauded for their efforts, the people who work for them are to be appreciated, and these types of posts are inappropriate. This isn't a safe space. We tell it like it is here.
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Great. You are perfectly happy with your no-name Android handset.
Then why are you here? Thought so.
A lot of people here are tech enthusiasts, not just Apple enthusiasts. Anyone who's never heard of Huawei must not really follow smartphones/mobile tech beyond Apple and Samsung.
I suspect there are many people who never look past the Apple ecosystem. Not that surprising to me.
I know, but strangely there's no shortage of people who can tell you why Apple is the best and everything else is inferior, even though they can't even name an Android phone outside of the Galaxy lines.
Obviously I'm an iPhone fan myself, otherwise I wouldn't be here, but that doesn't have to mean being ignorant of everything else. I love reading about, watching videos, and playing around with any smartphones. If Apple ever really let me down with this or any other "gate", I'm already familiar with impressive Android alternatives. I don't believe in so-called brand loyalty. I think that everyone should vote with their dollars, and understand that unless the company is a charity, that's all they really care about.
First, you are correct in your correction. I knew it didn't look right. That's why I get for posting at ridiculous-o-clock in the night/morning!I was responding to someone who implied that slowdown was due to just more complex software and not throttling based on battery health. If that was the case, then performance for both iPhone 6s and 2017 iPad 9.7 running the same iOS version should be similar regardless of battery health.
Also, correction. The iPad has a 32.4 Wh (8827 mAh) battery.
Mind, I've noticed there being fewer slowdown complaints for the Plus models. Wish Apple would increase battery capacity on iPhones. I wouldn't mind sacrificing a few grams and mils in exchange for a bigger battery.
The point was that people say Apple is justNo one cares if Apple loses money over their $29 battery replacement program. They screwed themselves over when they decided to throttle devices plain and simple.
so, which foreign government are YOU working-for; since it seems like you are here to do nothing other that stir the pot?So 52.3% people in this thread vote either the issue is not overblown or apple received right amount of blacksladh and lost in trust. I guess that is small amount of iPhone users. I assume this is Apple centric forum, most of people here like Apple. Apparently not everybody is blindly follow Apple.
Apple fan like to users "small amount of users" as weapon. Like you did even small amount of people are millions of people. I don't think that is small.
Today at work, we were talking about this batterygate. I guess most my coworker will get replacement battery. They are not happy with how Apple do things.
I wouldn't call Huawei is no name brand. This brand gets your country's Congress against this company. Majority of Canadian cellphone carrier use this Huawei equipment for cellaur service. This company is third largest cellphone maker. Fifth most innovative company in the world according to Forbs.
So I won't call Huawei is no name company.
Why am I here. Because i also brought iPhone 6, 6S and my wife has SE. Though no more Apple purchase from now on.
This...I have never heard of Hawaii phones. But if they were so important you wouldn't be in an Apple forum, you'd be in the Hyundai forum talking about Hyundai phones and how great they are. I love my BMW's. You don't see me in Audi forums every time they have a PR problem.
A lot of people here are tech enthusiasts, not just Apple enthusiasts. Anyone who's never heard of Huawei must not really follow smartphones/mobile tech beyond Apple and Samsung.
I follow the brands I respect and own. So I follow Apple and not any of those Android knock-offs. In fact, if it weren't for the Android references in this forum, I wouldn't even know that Android exists. Just like as a Rolex owner, I don't know anything about what Casio, Timex, or Omega are up to.
Obviously I'm an iPhone fan myself, otherwise I wouldn't be here, but that doesn't have to mean being ignorant of everything else. I love reading about, watching videos, and playing around with any smartphones.
You say that like it's something to be proud of.
I follow the brands I respect and own. So I follow Apple and not any of those Android knock-offs. In fact, if it weren't for the Android references in this forum, I wouldn't even know that Android exists. Just like as a Rolex owner, I don't know anything about what Casio, Timex, or Omega are up to.
First, you are correct in your correction. I knew it didn't look right. That's why I get for posting at ridiculous-o-clock in the night/morning!
But, if you are talking about giving the iPhone an 8827 mAh battery, you aren't just talking "a few grams and mils", you're talking about a phone twice as thick and heavy as the 4s, which would not only BE a proverbial lead balloon, but can you IMAGINE the REVIEWS?!? NO amount of battery-life would make THAT phone sell!
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The point was that people say Apple is just
so, which foreign government are YOU working-for; since it seems like you are here to do nothing other that stir the pot?
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This...
That's why I think "he" is either a foreign bot or a foreign provocateur. Seriously.
Apple's stock is big enough to have political weight applied to it. Remember, the name of the game is "destabilization".
So you are proud to being only know about Apple.and nothing else. You don't even know the competition and you think Apple is the best. WoW that just amazing.
You are the one who yelling Android knock off, but you barely know Android. How then do you know about Android is being knock off? Because other Apple fans said so? You barely know anything about competition, then you just think Apple is the best. This is amazing.
I watched a video two weeks ago where a blogger was giving his 2017 smartphone of the year awards just to see where the iPhone X placed, and in that 8 minutes of wasted time I was subjected to commentary about a handful of Android phones and my takeaway is that Android is all about oversized screens (I am not a Plus person), gaming capabilities (I'm an important executive), speakers (for those who can't afford a Bluetooth speaker), and cameras (iPhone won that category).
So please don't assume we're ignorant. Adults just aren't interested in what Android offers, it's more of a teen's plaything for streaming action movies without owning a decent TV, playing shoot-'em-up games without owning a good console, and creating YouTube videos so people notice him. This isn't much different than Apple vs. Razer in the PC world. Professionals have the money and need for the elegant experience offered by Mac and the students and modders build their own computers on the cheap with neon ground effects.
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Exactly right. It's like the person who always flies First Class and has no idea what it's like in Economy. He's not ignorant. He's fortunate.
I watched a video two weeks ago where a blogger was giving his 2017 smartphone of the year awards just to see where the iPhone X placed, and in that 8 minutes of wasted time I was subjected to commentary about a handful of Android phones and my takeaway is that Android is all about oversized screens (I am not a Plus person), gaming capabilities (I'm an important executive), speakers (for those who can't afford a Bluetooth speaker), and cameras (iPhone won that category).
So please don't assume we're ignorant. Adults just aren't interested in what Android offers, it's more of a teen's plaything for streaming action movies without owning a decent TV, playing shoot-'em-up games without owning a good console, and creating YouTube videos so people notice him. This isn't much different than Apple vs. Razer in the PC world. Professionals have the money and need for the elegant experience offered by Mac and the students and modders build their own computers on the cheap with neon ground effects.
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Exactly right. It's like the person who always flies First Class and has no idea what it's like in Economy. He's not ignorant. He's fortunate.
What I know about Android is that they stole everything iPhone innovated. From the hardware to the software, from the touch interface to the OS, it's a complete knock off. As such, I have no respect for it in the same way as a Rolex owner I have no respect for Invicta which is a shameless Rolex copywatch company.
I don't know whether or not Apple is the best. I merely know that the iPhone suits my needs so well that I don't need to look at any other so-called competitor. No different than my wife. I am extremely happy so I have no reason to check out every skirt that walks by.
FYI, I exclusively run Windows 10 on my MacBook. Again, it suits my needs and I don't like Mac OS nor do I want to learn it.
FYI, I exclusively run Windows 10 on my MacBook. Again, it suits my needs and I don't like Mac OS nor do I want to learn it.
That is craziness. I spent most of my career supporting Windows machines and I despise having to use them. I like Mac OS for the same reason I like iPhones. I don't want to spend all of my time fussing with a computer. When I need it, I just want to use it. My Mac and my iPhone just work when I need them.
I used to work at a computer store while I was attending University. The amount of Mac being sent to our store to get fixed we're not less than Windows machines.
Of course we get lots of people buying the Mac and ask us to install Windows on Mac. If Apple weren't allow Windows runs on Mac, Mac would never take off.
The non-stop patch installation on Windows machines is a giant time suck. Patching servers and workstations was a large part of my job for years. When I have to pull out my Windows laptop, it takes forever to catch up on all of the patches before I can use it. Without the patches, a Windows machine is a giant security problem. My Mac doesn't need constant patching. I just use it.
Please note the comment regarding Plus-size phones not getting as many complaints as non-Plus versions. I expect a 4.7" iPhone with ~2500 mAh battery wouldn't be unreasonably thicker and heavier.First, you are correct in your correction. I knew it didn't look right. That's why I get for posting at ridiculous-o-clock in the night/morning!
But, if you are talking about giving the iPhone an 8827 mAh battery, you aren't just talking "a few grams and mils", you're talking about a phone twice as thick and heavy as the 4s, which would not only BE a proverbial lead balloon, but can you IMAGINE the REVIEWS?!? NO amount of battery-life would make THAT phone sell!
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The point was that people say Apple is just
so, which foreign government are YOU working-for; since it seems like you are here to do nothing other that stir the pot?
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This...
That's why I think "he" is either a foreign bot or a foreign provocateur. Seriously.
Apple's stock is big enough to have political weight applied to it. Remember, the name of the game is "destabilization".
People need to stop defending corporations. It's weird and anti-consumer.