Other Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

[LovingTeddy]

This sentiment is the problem with many posters. Apple is NOT FORCING YOU TO DO ANYTHING. Don’t like their business practices? Fine. Go buy something else.

Stop your whining and go buy another platform. Or, enjoy what you have, recognize that no company is perfect, and stop acting like little kids who just got their favorite toy broken.

LOL... I love Apple fan logics. If you guys ever runs Apple, Apple will be done in no time.

Lucky you are not CEO of any kind.

We have money. If our iPhones get slow we just buy a new one. Android people never get this.
[doublepost=1515544100][/doublepost]

Sure I do.

Apple tweaked it’s power management protocol, a high school student found some code hiding in plain sight, entitled people with old phones started asking for a handout and were looking forward to a long fight.

Apple quickly apologized, offered a deep discount on a replacement battery, and defused the situation. Instead of seeing huge lines for battery replacements and massive news stories on the subject, very few are having any slowing issues, the phony scandal has quickly faded into yesterday’s news and that makes the truthers unhappy and are seeking a safe space shoulder to cry on in threads where they act miserable instead of grateful.

That sums it up nicely.
[doublepost=1515544213][/doublepost]

This is not the thread about the issue.

This is the thread about the reaction to the issue.
[doublepost=1515544370][/doublepost]

I believe strongly that the phones suffering from slowdowns are old, used, and jailbroken. So they get what they deserve. Finally. That’s what they get for tampering.

I get it. Apple loves that. This is why Apple is doing all short of things make phone slower overtime and Apple fans will buy new one.

Android fan will tinkering about new firmware, new ROM to give their old devices new life.

 

[LovingTeddy]

If they would’ve read the terms and conditions before hitting the agree button they would understand that Apple has no responsibility in the situation at all and are actually being quite magnanimous in the reaction to make a few disgruntled jailbreakers happy:

7.4 APPLE DOES NOT WARRANT AGAINST INTERFERENCE WITH YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE iOS SOFTWARE AND SERVICES, THAT THE FUNCTIONS CONTAINED IN, OR SERVICES PERFORMED OR PROVIDED BY, THE iOS SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, THAT THE OPERATION OF THE iOS SOFTWARE AND SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT ANY SERVICE WILL CONTINUE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE, THAT DEFECTS IN THE iOS SOFTWARE OR SERVICES WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THE iOS SOFTWARE WILL BE COMPATIBLE OR WORK WITH ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS OR THIRD PARTY SERVICES. INSTALLATION OF THIS iOS SOFTWARE MAY AFFECT THE AVAILABILITY AND USABILITY OF THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS OR THIRD PARTY SERVICES, AS WELL AS APPLE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
[doublepost=1515546650][/doublepost]

Apple did not admit to cheating, they admitted to miscommunicating a decision they made to power manage and help owners with old phones who are still complaining even after Apple magnanimously gave them a $50 discount on a battery even though they didn’t need to. Say thank you to Apple. Stop calling them names.

Apple made mistake and expect customer to cover their mistake. And you expect people happy about it. NEVER!

And you think every single iPhone users who experienced the slow down were jailbroken?

 

[Bill91LX]

LOL... I love Apple fan logics. If you guys ever runs Apple, Apple will be done in no time.

Lucky you are not CEO of any kind

You so sure of that Teddy? Haha

 

[LovingTeddy]

You so sure of that Teddy? Haha

Yes. Any CEO with any common sense will not say anything like that. Imagine if CEO says "We made a mistake, but we don't give a f, If you don't like that, we are happy you buy from other competitors". He will be out in no time

 

[C DM]

Yes. Any CEO with any common sense will not say anything like that. Imagine if CEO says "We made a mistake, but we don't give a f, If you don't like that, we are happy you buy from other competitors". He will be out in no time

Kind of like "You are holding it wrong"?

 

[boltjames]

Apple made mistake and expect customer to cover their mistake. And you expect people happy about it. NEVER!

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

If a few lines of code trip a processor testing app but no iPhone users feel a change in speed, is it a problem?

Kind of like "You are holding it wrong"?

History shows they were holding it wrong. Or, rather, mischievous malcontents looking for social media fame were holding it in a way to make it look frightening when it wasn't.
[doublepost=1515556789][/doublepost]

Yes. Any CEO with any common sense will not say anything like that. Imagine if CEO says "We made a mistake, but we don't give a f, If you don't like that, we are happy you buy from other competitors". He will be out in no time

1. Apple included old iPhones in the latest iOS version to provide them with the same enhanced features as newer models. That's a good thing.

2. Apple changed the power management settings to protect old iPhones from shutting down unexpectedly. That's a good thing.

3. Apple apologized for the lack of communication and said it would release a new iOS version that communicated the situation more clearly. That's a good thing.

4. Apple did not hold owners accountable to 7.4 of the Terms And Conditions where it specifies that Apple is under no legal obligation to address those who have issues. That's a good thing.

5. Apple reduced the cost of replacement batteries for old handsets by $50 to a very affordable $29. That's a good thing.

6. Apple removed the rule that says only if an old battery shows as unhealthy on a Genius test will someone be given a new battery. That's a good thing.

7. In the 3 weeks that this phony scandal has been in the media, only a handful of iPhone owners actually needed their batteries replaced anyway. That's a good thing.

Apple has done a lot of good things. Say thank you.

 

[bopajuice]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

If a few lines of code trip a processor testing app but no iPhone users feel a change in speed, is it a problem?



History shows they were holding it wrong. Or, rather, mischievous malcontents looking for social media fame were holding it in a way to make it look frightening when it wasn't.
[doublepost=1515556789][/doublepost]

1. Apple included old iPhones in the latest iOS version to provide them with the same enhanced features as newer models. That's a good thing.

2. Apple changed the power management settings to protect old iPhones from shutting down unexpectedly. That's a good thing.

3. Apple apologized for the lack of communication and said it would release a new iOS version that communicated the situation more clearly. That's a good thing.

4. Apple did not hold owners accountable to 7.4 of the Terms And Conditions where it specifies that Apple is under no legal obligation to address those who have issues. That's a good thing.

5. Apple reduced the cost of replacement batteries for old handsets by $50 to a very affordable $29. That's a good thing.

6. Apple removed the rule that says only if an old battery shows as unhealthy on a Genius test will someone be given a new battery. That's a good thing.

7. In the 3 weeks that this phony scandal has been in the media, only a handful of iPhone owners actually needed their batteries replaced anyway. That's a good thing.

Apple has done a lot of good things. Say thank you.

Still trying to figure out your never-ending defense of Apple on just about every thread here on the forums. My question to you is, is Apple responsible for any of it's questionable actions? At all?

Are you going to wait until any of these issues are addressed in a court of law, or are you going to decide for all of us ahead of time, and continue to insult everyone who posts a negative comment about Apple's phones or practices?

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Apple admits itself it is cheating on phones as new as iphone 7 on ios 11.2 and mentions nothing of jailbreaking.

Jailbreaking has become a handy scapegoat for some people, usually folks who have never done it.

 

[LovingTeddy]

Kind of like "You are holding it wrong"?

Well... Then Jobs had a press conference. He said Apple is not perfect and acknowledged there is problem. Offered free bumper case. He at least offered solution that is free of charge to solve something.

He also didn't has that attitude of "go f yourself and use other product" like some Apple fans here
[doublepost=1515587443][/doublepost]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

If a few lines of code trip a processor testing app but no iPhone users feel a change in speed, is it a problem?



History shows they were holding it wrong. Or, rather, mischievous malcontents looking for social media fame were holding it in a way to make it look frightening when it wasn't.
[doublepost=1515556789][/doublepost]

1. Apple included old iPhones in the latest iOS version to provide them with the same enhanced features as newer models. That's a good thing.

2. Apple changed the power management settings to protect old iPhones from shutting down unexpectedly. That's a good thing.

3. Apple apologized for the lack of communication and said it would release a new iOS version that communicated the situation more clearly. That's a good thing.

4. Apple did not hold owners accountable to 7.4 of the Terms And Conditions where it specifies that Apple is under no legal obligation to address those who have issues. That's a good thing.

5. Apple reduced the cost of replacement batteries for old handsets by $50 to a very affordable $29. That's a good thing.

6. Apple removed the rule that says only if an old battery shows as unhealthy on a Genius test will someone be given a new battery. That's a good thing.

7. In the 3 weeks that this phony scandal has been in the media, only a handful of iPhone owners actually needed their batteries replaced anyway. That's a good thing.

Apple has done a lot of good things. Say thank you.

1. Tons of people experience throttling problem. Not "few" as you suggested.

2. Apple run out of battery everywhere, disapproved you.

3. Apple also offered free bumper case for iPhone 4. Human hands could block raido singal, iPhone 4 had desgin flaw. Is any lhter iPhone had same problem as iPhone 4? No. Jobs as ignorant as he is, he did offer consumer option of either return the phone or free bumper case.

4. Apple will charge you 25 dollars for cover their mistake. Same Apple, two different attitude. Just wait for this to progress. Now US official is looking into this. More and more lawsuits are coming.

 

[Hal~9000]

Well... Then Jobs had a press conference. He said Apple is not perfect and acknowledged there is problem. Offered free bumper case. He at least offered solution that is free of charge to solve something.

He also didn't has that attitude of "go f yourself and use other product" like some Apple fans here
[doublepost=1515587443][/doublepost]

1. Tons of people experience throttling problem. Not "few" as you suggested.

2. Apple run out of battery everywhere, disapproved you.

3. Apple also offered free bumper case for iPhone 4. Human hands could block raido singal, iPhone 4 had desgin flaw. Is any lhter iPhone had same problem as iPhone 4? No. Jobs as ignorant as he is, he did offer consumer option of either return the phone or free bumper case.

4. Apple will charge you 25 dollars for cover their mistake. Same Apple, two different attitude. Just wait for this to progress. Now US official is looking into this. More and more lawsuits are coming.

Agreed with all the above. Jobs seemed like more a man based on principle. Cook seems like a man based on profits.

No apology directly from Cook.
No actual explanation of when the throttling begins.
No solution to the mess that Apple created which doesn't cost customers additional $.

Pure shadiness all around and unbecoming of what once was a great company...

P.S. Apple now getting questioned by the U.S. government for their anti-consumer throttling scandal: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/10/us-official-letter-iphone-battery-slowdowns/

Maybe the thread title instead should be "has the throttling backlash gone far enough?"

 

[Bill91LX]

Agreed with all the above. Jobs seemed like more a man based on principle. Cook seems like a man based on profits.

No apology directly from Cook.
No actual explanation of when the throttling begins.
No solution to the mess that Apple created which doesn't cost customers additional $.

Pure shadiness all around and unbecoming of what once was a great company...

P.S. Apple now getting questioned by the U.S. government for their anti-consumer throttling scandal: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/10/us-official-letter-iphone-battery-slowdowns/

Maybe the thread title instead should be "has the throttling backlash gone far enough?"

Somehow I think that had Cook sent you a personal apology, explained everything and offered free batteries, you’d still be disappointed and on here crying. Do you get this disappointed about everything that doesn’t go the way you think it should?

This whole thread has run its course. No more replies. Arguing with a fool proves there are two. Lol.

 

[Hal~9000]

Somehow I think that had Cook sent you a personal apology, explained everything and offered free batteries, you’d still be disappointed and on here crying. Do you get this disappointed about everything that doesn’t go the way you think it should?

This whole thread has run its course. No more replies. Arguing with a fool proves there are two. Lol.

Had Apple not been arrogant and handled the situation as they should have I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it.

Besides, the only people I see "crying" in this thread are the hypocrites who criticize others for being upset and posting about it when they themselves are doing the exact same thing

 

[boltjames]

Still trying to figure out your never-ending defense of Apple on just about every thread here on the forums. My question to you is, is Apple responsible for any of it's questionable actions? At all?

I'm not defending Apple at all; I am merely offering my opinion on the phony throttle scandal the reaction to which is overblown and the response to has been nearly nothing. There is no hysteria, there is no mass panic, Apple stores aren't being flooded with angry customers. We're in Week 4. This is a non-event. Its forgotten.

Are you going to wait until any of these issues are addressed in a court of law, or are you going to decide for all of us ahead of time, and continue to insult everyone who posts a negative comment about Apple's phones or practices?

I haven't personally insulted anyone. You just don't like hearing my opinion on the matter which turns out to be the truth. You don't have to read my posts. You can use the ignore feature. It's what it's there for.
[doublepost=1515595061][/doublepost]

Well... Then Jobs had a press conference. He said Apple is not perfect and acknowledged there is problem. Offered free bumper case. He at least offered solution that is free of charge to solve something.

He also didn't has that attitude of "go f yourself and use other product" like some Apple fans here

The free bumper case had a cost to Apple of $2. The replacement battery was discounted $50 and at Apple's margins that is at a cost to apple of $30. And this makes you unhappy?

The attitude of Antennagate and Throttlegate are exactly the same, I lived through them both. Bunch of people crying hysterically until Apple apologized and gave them a discount, then those people still wanted to cry some more just for the sake of being contrarians, the regular people saw right through the manipulation and felt bad that Apple apologized at all as it just encouraged more of this over-reactive behavior, and then it was completely forgotten.

You don't even own an iPhone! Every post you type is on a Huwaei handset. So why are you the most vocal opponent of Tim Cook's apology and solution on MR?
[doublepost=1515595920][/doublepost]

P.S. Apple now getting questioned by the U.S. government for their anti-consumer throttling scandal: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/10/us-official-letter-iphone-battery-slowdowns/

Maybe the thread title instead should be "has the throttling backlash gone far enough?"

The article also states:

"It’s important to note that the investigation is preliminary and could lead to preliminary charges or be dropped altogether."

 

[C DM]

Well... Then Jobs had a press conference. He said Apple is not perfect and acknowledged there is problem. Offered free bumper case. He at least offered solution that is free of charge to solve something.

He also didn't has that attitude of "go f yourself and use other product" like some Apple fans here
[doublepost=1515587443][/doublepost]

1. Tons of people experience throttling problem. Not "few" as you suggested.

2. Apple run out of battery everywhere, disapproved you.

3. Apple also offered free bumper case for iPhone 4. Human hands could block raido singal, iPhone 4 had desgin flaw. Is any lhter iPhone had same problem as iPhone 4? No. Jobs as ignorant as he is, he did offer consumer option of either return the phone or free bumper case.

4. Apple will charge you 25 dollars for cover their mistake. Same Apple, two different attitude. Just wait for this to progress. Now US official is looking into this. More and more lawsuits are coming.

Agreed with all the above. Jobs seemed like more a man based on principle. Cook seems like a man based on profits.

No apology directly from Cook.
No actual explanation of when the throttling begins.
No solution to the mess that Apple created which doesn't cost customers additional $.

Pure shadiness all around and unbecoming of what once was a great company...

P.S. Apple now getting questioned by the U.S. government for their anti-consumer throttling scandal: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/10/us-official-letter-iphone-battery-slowdowns/

Maybe the thread title instead should be "has the throttling backlash gone far enough?"

The defense people will go to just to try to put down the current regime somehow trying to imply that there's nothing really wrong with the top person of the company just basically attacking the customers essentially calling them incompetent when a design flaw was noticed.

 

[bopajuice]

I'm not defending Apple at all; I am merely offering my opinion on the phony throttle scandal the reaction to which is overblown and the response to has been nearly nothing. There is no hysteria, there is no mass panic, Apple stores aren't being flooded with angry customers. We're in Week 4. This is a non-event. Its forgotten.



I haven't personally insulted anyone. You just don't like hearing my opinion on the matter which turns out to be the truth. You don't have to read my posts. You can use the ignore feature. It's what it's there for.
[doublepost=1515595061][/doublepost]

The free bumper case had a cost to Apple of $2. The replacement battery was discounted $50 and at Apple's margins that is at a cost to apple of $30. And this makes you unhappy?

The attitude of Antennagate and Throttlegate are exactly the same, I lived through them both. Bunch of people crying hysterically until Apple apologized and gave them a discount, then those people still wanted to cry some more just for the sake of being contrarians, the regular people saw right through the manipulation and felt bad that Apple apologized at all as it just encouraged more of this over-reactive behavior, and then it was completely forgotten.

You don't even own an iPhone! Every post you type is on a Huwaei handset. So why are you the most vocal opponent of Tim Cook's apology and solution on MR?
[doublepost=1515595920][/doublepost]

The article also states:

"It’s important to note that the investigation is preliminary and could lead to preliminary charges or be dropped altogether."

The only person who claims this is a forgotten issue is you. If it’s no longer an issue why post about it everyday, and attack other opinions? It sounds more like you are trying to quash public opinion. Despite the multitude of lawsuits we have little facts. You are jumping to a conclusion exactly as you acuse others of doing.

As far as blocking you, you have said the same thing to several other members. Maybe if we weren’t so quick to attack others maybe you wouldn’t have to ask people to block you. Look at the common denominator here.

You could always block me if you don’t like someone questioning your logic and trying to have a debate. I have to admit it is hard to talk to people who speak in absolutes, regardless of their net worth.

 

[apolloa]

The only person who claims this is a forgotten issue is you. If it’s no longer an issue why post about it everyday, and attack other opinions? It sounds more like you are trying to quash public opinion. Despite the multitude of lawsuits we have little facts. You are jumping to a conclusion exactly as you acuse others of doing.

As far as blocking you, you have said the same thing to several other members. Maybe if we weren’t so quick to attack others maybe you wouldn’t have to ask people to block you. Look at the common denominator here.

You could always block me if you don’t like someone questioning your logic and trying to have a debate. I have to admit it is hard to talk to people who speak in absolutes, regardless of their net worth.

I think some of these people work for Apple, they are defending them so much on this story, or they do own AAPL stock and have personal financial interests in Apple never being bought down.

It’s pretty desperate to attempt to claim it’s a none story when now two Senates I believe in the US have requested information. And their are two cases in France both citing breach of planned obsolescence which is actually a crime in that country, although I think on party’s case can lead to a fine or a two year jail term for French Apple executives, and the other can lead to Apple being fined up to 5% of their annual turnover, can’t remember if that was global or in France. And then I believe it was Brazil where they handed a letter requesting information and clarification and Apple ignored it, despite this party being linked to government and having the ability to post heavy fines or worst against Apple...

But it’s all just a none story.....

This is its third week now, and five official or more serious cases or requests have been made. Plus the ever growing class action suites.

 

[bmark]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

If a few lines of code trip a processor testing app but no iPhone users feel a change in speed, is it a problem?



History shows they were holding it wrong. Or, rather, mischievous malcontents looking for social media fame were holding it in a way to make it look frightening when it wasn't.
[doublepost=1515556789][/doublepost]

1. Apple included old iPhones in the latest iOS version to provide them with the same enhanced features as newer models. That's a good thing.

2. Apple changed the power management settings to protect old iPhones from shutting down unexpectedly. That's a good thing.

3. Apple apologized for the lack of communication and said it would release a new iOS version that communicated the situation more clearly. That's a good thing.

4. Apple did not hold owners accountable to 7.4 of the Terms And Conditions where it specifies that Apple is under no legal obligation to address those who have issues. That's a good thing.

5. Apple reduced the cost of replacement batteries for old handsets by $50 to a very affordable $29. That's a good thing.

6. Apple removed the rule that says only if an old battery shows as unhealthy on a Genius test will someone be given a new battery. That's a good thing.

7. In the 3 weeks that this phony scandal has been in the media, only a handful of iPhone owners actually needed their batteries replaced anyway. That's a good thing.

Apple has done a lot of good things. Say thank you.

Apple hasn't done any good things. They throttled devices without any explanation at all and didn't deny that they would discontinue that practice. Now the US and EU officials are questioning Apple on the slow down on devices. I know Apple isn't worried about the US but the EU will throw the gauntlet at them. Class action law suits are nothing compared to what the EU could impose in fines.

 

[apolloa]

Apple hasn't done any good things. They throttled devices without any explanation at all and didn't deny that they would discontinue that practice. Now the US and EU officials are questioning Apple on the slow down on devices. I know Apple isn't worried about the US but the EU will throw the gauntlet at them. Class action law suits are nothing compared to what the EU could impose in fines.

It will continue to impose fines too until Apple learns its lesson. But don’t forget it was the US government that literally threatened to split Microsoft into two when it was at it’s height just because of Internet Explorer coming with Windows and it’s manopoly, this isn’t over by a long long long way.

 

[boltjames]

Apple hasn't done any good things. They throttled devices without any explanation at all and didn't deny that they would discontinue that practice.

Apple didn't "throttle" anything. Apple decided it was better to save old iPhones with tired batteries from shutting down unexpectedly rather than have millions of people suddenly have a dead iPhone in cold weather or when their processors were overtaxed which could have had serious consequences. That's it. That's all they did.

Now, if you disagree with Apple's decision to make battery life a priority over faster speed, well, one has to ask what you're doing with an old iPhone with a substandard battery. Because if you really cared about performance and you really cared about speed you'd have purchased an iPhone X. Deep down you don't care that much, a few milliseconds don't matter. That's why you were happy with an old iPhone. You have an excuse to be mad now, bunch of people running around shouting. But the truth is, you compromised speed and performance when you made the decision to hold onto your old phone instead of buying a new one. So to hold Apple accountable for a compromise you made because they are trying to prevent your old phone from shutting down isn't right.

Now the US and EU officials are questioning Apple on the slow down on devices. I know Apple isn't worried about the US but the EU will throw the gauntlet at them. Class action law suits are nothing compared to what the EU could impose in fines.

If the EU came after Apple, Apple would withdraw from the EU. And all those politicians who went after Apple would lose their re-elections due to angry consumers who love their iPhones and are now cut off from all updates and hardware purchases.

As such, the EU will do nothing. Same for the US. Here in Week 3 the buzz over this issue has quieted to a slight whisper, by March the handful of people who need batteries will have them, and no one will even remember it happened.

 

[Bigg Macc]

*snip

Apple did not admit to cheating, they admitted to miscommunicating a decision they made to power manage and help owners with old phones who are still complaining even after Apple magnanimously gave them a $50 discount on a battery even though they didn’t need to. Say thank you to Apple. Stop calling them names.

No one sane thanks a low calibur cheater like Apple. No honor among cheaters.

Jailbreaking has become a handy scapegoat for some people, usually folks who have never done it.

Yep. People who do not have the technical smarts and know hows.

 

[bmark]

Apple didn't "throttle" anything. Apple decided it was better to save old iPhones with tired batteries from shutting down unexpectedly rather than have millions of people suddenly have a dead iPhone in cold weather or when their processors were overtaxed which could have had serious consequences. That's it. That's all they did.

Now, if you disagree with Apple's decision to make battery life a priority over faster speed, well, one has to ask what you're doing with an old iPhone with a substandard battery. Because if you really cared about performance and you really cared about speed you'd have purchased an iPhone X. Deep down you don't care that much, a few milliseconds don't matter. That's why you were happy with an old iPhone. You have an excuse to be mad now, bunch of people running around shouting. But the truth is, you compromised speed and performance when you made the decision to hold onto your old phone instead of buying a new one. So to hold Apple accountable for a compromise you made because they are trying to prevent your old phone from shutting down isn't right.



If the EU came after Apple, Apple would withdraw from the EU. And all those politicians who went after Apple would lose their re-elections due to angry consumers who love their iPhones and are now cut off from all updates and hardware purchases.

As such, the EU will do nothing. Same for the US. Here in Week 3 the buzz over this issue has quieted to a slight whisper, by March the handful of people who need batteries will have them, and no one will even remember it happened.

You sound like a paid loyalist for the Apple regime. 30 plus class action suits later still a great move by Apple? When they sell 16-18 million less iPhones this year that move will really have paid off. Apple stores are glorified service centers at this point and their mrc per customer is dropping like flies! Steve Jobs would have never allowed this type of mismanagement to happen.

 

[C DM]

Steve Jobs would have never allowed this type of mismanagement to happen.

He probably would have just blamed the customers and perhaps offered a free case.

 

[Radon87000]

He probably would have just blamed the customers and perhaps offered a free case.

Which is probably why so many scandals happened when he was at the helm and iOS was coming down to Android levels of lag. Oh wait..

 

[C DM]

Which is probably why so many scandals happened when he was at the helm and iOS was coming down to Android levels of lag. Oh wait..

All kinds of things were around back then just as all kinds of things are around now.

 

[Radon87000]

All kinds of things were around back then just as all kinds of things are around now.

Major scandals concerning iPhone:

Steve Jobs-Antennagate

Tim Cook- Touch Disease, Error 53, Bendgate, Throttlegate.