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Other Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

  • No. In fact, there should be more outrage.

    Votes: 115 33.8%

  • No. Apple has received the appropriate amount of backlash and loss of trust.

    Votes: 68 20.0%

  • Yes. It’s not as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

    Votes: 157 46.2%
  • Total voters
    340
There has been no effort by apple to tackle the problem (remove the throttle). They have only tried (poorly) to mitigate the consequences.

Until the issue is resolved (throttle removed) the Poll is irrelevant
 
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joeblow7777 said:
I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation. Not buying Apple products in the future, sure. But you expect people to go out and get rid of all their Apple products, which Apple has already received payment for, so not using them doesn’t hurt Apple any, and buy replacements?
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If you are so outraged by what Apple did and their business practices, why would you continue to own and use their products?

Apple products have value. Sell your iPhone or ipad or whatever Apple product you own. Apple doesn't get a dime from sales in secondary market. Use that money to offset the cost to buy non Apple products.
 
crazynewf7 said:
Do you really think the average user is intelligent enough to make that decision on their own and know what the impacts of such a decision are?
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Which is probably what some Apple executive said in a meeting, but at some point people do have to take a shred of responsibility for their own property and investments. It’s actually not that complicated to have a notification that tells the user they can choose to have their phone continue operating at full speed/power but die sooner, or reduce its power and last longer. Is that really beyond the average person’s ability to comprehend? If so, I don’t know how people take care of themselves and function in society.
 
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slippery-pete said:
Just curious. For all the people who think "apple is getting what they deserved" or feel absolutely wronged by what Apple did, how many of you still own an iPhone? an Apple product?

With all the hate/outrage on this post I assume everyone complaining has severed all ties with Apple by now....
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I still have and am using an iPhone 6 Plus. My phone is very sluggish, I'm def being throttled and my battery is more or less shot (during a Geekbench battery test I went from 100% to 20% in 2 and a half hours with just a dimmed screen on).

I was originally planning on getting an X but money is too tight at the moment so I stuck with my 6 longer. I went in for a battery change but was turned away, not because Apple claimed my battery was in good shape, they didn't even test it, but because I have a launch iPhone 6 Plus that was susceptible to bending. Mine bent relatively quick. By the time reports surfaced that phones were bending and I checked mine, it had already happened (being used the same way as my 3G and 4 before it). I could have made a stink and had it replaced like many did while it was still under warranty but I chose not to because I didn't think it was a big deal. I thought it might impact resale value a bit, but I wasn't worried. Now, because of the bend I can't have my battery replaced because they said they won't be able to get it back together, and I was told I would need a "total replacement" for $325, whatever that means.

I've had issues with every iPhone I've had, that doesn't mean I want to boycott Apple or they aren't overall very good products ... but their products aren't without issue and the company itself isn't without reproach like some people make it seem.
 
slippery-pete said:
If you are so outraged by what Apple did and their business practices, why would you continue to own and use their products?

Apple products have value. Sell your iPhone or ipad or whatever Apple product you own. Apple doesn't get a dime from sales in secondary market. Use that money to offset the cost to buy non Apple products.
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Why would you not just use your current Apple products until it’s time to replace them and then buy another brand? Apple already has your money for the products you already own. They’re not benefiting from you using what you’ve already paid for, but regardless of their generally high resale value, you’ll probably take a loss if you sell them and buy comparable replacements. It’s a very poignant gesture, but in a practical sense it hurts you more than Apple.
 
QuarterSwede said:
My battery is at 69% (which I'll get confirmed today by Apple when doing a battery swap) and when it's throttling aggressively I literally can't take a photo in the stock photo app, it just crashes. I was in a life and death emergency situation and I almost couldn't text my family as needed to keep them in the loop. It's absolutely an issue with negative real world effects.
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Same here, but I could have used the throttle to keep my family safe.

Last year, my iPhone 6, original owner, updated iOS, went skiing with the family in 20 degree weather. I've got teens, they were on their own all over the mountain. We decided I would text them all in the afternoon and we'd all regroup, grab some lunch, make sure everyone is accounted for and okay.

So 1PM arrives, I take my iPhone out of my pocket, and it's dead, it's got that charging cable graphic up and won't respond at all. Home button, hard reboot, nothing is working, the thing is not responsive. My wife's iPhone 6, same thing. Turns out all 5 of our iPhone 6's with 100% battery were all on the same screen, all dead.

Fortunately we all had the same sense of what was going on and we all wound up at the lodge by 2PM. Once the phones were inside in the warm air they started to respond.

If Apple had instituted this new protocol for throttling the phones, last year we all would have had working phones on the mountain and never would have been out of touch with each other. So while you may not appreciate the slowdown in certain situations I can tell you I would have welcomed it in that situation, quite upsetting for a father and mother to not be able to reach their kids for a lengthy period of time.
 
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joeblow7777 said:
Why would you not just use your current Apple products until it’s time to replace them and then buy another brand? Apple already has your money for the products you already own. They’re not benefiting from you using what you’ve already paid for, but regardless of their generally high resale value, you’ll probably take a loss if you sell them and buy comparable replacements. It’s a very poignant gesture, but in a practical sense it hurts you more than Apple.
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If what Apple did was so wrong, and you are completely outraged by what they did, why would you continue to own/use their products?

To me, it makes zero sense.
 
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crazynewf7 said:
Do you really think the average user has the ability to make that decision on their own and know what the impacts of such a decision are?
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Yes I do. Why not have it on a switch turn throttling on and off it’s not rocket science. But apple wont do that because a lot of people will buy a new phone when it’s slow
 
crazynewf7 said:
Do you really think the average user has the ability to make that decision on their own and know what the impacts of such a decision are?
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Laptops have been giving average users power vs performance management options for years, and in some Windows laptops/desktops performance vs stability options. No, not all of them understand what they are selecting or even care, but the important thing is that the options exist and can be changed if necessary. For example Apple could have made the default setting such that it favored stability over performance, but given those who are outraged the ability to undo the fix. If they experience more unexpected shutdowns, they know how to enable the fix again. Just make a slider under General Settings. Instead Apple applied the fix to all devices based on battery condition, without any regard to whether or not that device was actually experiencing a problem that needed a solution.
 
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slippery-pete said:
You replying via your iPhone? MacBook? Ipad?
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iPhone 6 and iPad mini 2. But the response was made with 2012 HP PC running Windows 7 OS that is in like-new condition.

If there was a true windows phone(hardware and software), I would switch immediately. No thought is required. I value trust more than looks. (And no, not interested in Google products.)

But if you are stating that one cannot be outraged with a company and still use our(!) phones, then that would be an irrational thought because the product was purchased without knowledge of the incident. Apple does not own our product, only the software in it, but that does not mean they can modify specifications of our product without our permission. Contract was breached. So yes, I can be outraged and still use the product, only because there is no viable second option. This is what Apple depends on.

I mean who slows down processors to save a cheap battery? And why hide it? If the battery needs replacement, just tell the customer! Going behind their back makes one question their intent.
 
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slippery-pete said:
If what Apple did was so wrong, and you are completely outraged by what they did, why would you continue to own/use their products?

To me, it makes zero sense.
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All apple had to do is tell people. Then there would be no controversy
 
slippery-pete said:
If what Apple did was so wrong, and you are completely outraged by what they did, why would you continue to own/use their products?

To me, it makes zero sense.
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You’re describing an emotional response. I’m thinking about it more rationally.

Just to be clear, I’m not in the “outraged” camp, but if I was, I would simply stop buying Apple products from here on. Using or not using the ones I already have doesn’t accomplish anything or send any message to Apple. They already have the money for those products. They receive the same benefit weather I continue to use my iPhone every day or if I throw it in a ditch right now. I’m the one who’s deprived of a functional phone that I’ve already paid for if I do the latter.
 
deferredAnon said:
iPhone 6 and iPad mini 2. But the response was made with 2012 HP PC running Windows 7 OS that is in like-new condition.

If there was a true windows phone(hardware and software), I would switch immediately. No thought is required. I value trust more than looks. (And no, not interested in Google products.)

But if you are stating that one cannot be outraged with a company and still use our(!) phones, then that would be an irrational thought because the product was purchased without knowledge of the incident. Apple does not own our product, only the software in it, but that also does not mean they can modify specifications of our product without our permission. Contract was breached. So yes, I can be outraged and still use the product, only because there is no second option.

I mean who slows down processors to save a cheap battery? And why hide it? If the battery needs replacement, just tell the customer! Going behind their back makes one question their intent.
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Yes, if you are going to act irrational, and act like Apple owes you something, than yes you should not own any Apple product. Sell them immediately.

Contract breach????? BAH AH AH AH AH
 
boltjames said:
Same here, but I could have used the throttle to keep my family safe.
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What kind of conditions were you skiing in? I live in Buffalo, NY and I was having shutdown issues with my iPhone only went the battery was below 50% no matter the cold conditions. I would often (more than 10-15 times a year) be outside plowing for hours in temperatures below 30 all the way below freezing with my phone in my pocket and earbuds in listening to music while I plowed. Prior to the 10.2.1 power management it never shut off. That's a scary situation and and extreme example but also where a user option would help. Going skiing in cold conditions ... turn on power management. Sitting at your desk at work, turn on performance optimization. User choice, easy call.
 
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