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Has the throttling issue been blown out of proportion?

  • No. In fact, there should be more outrage.

    Votes: 115 33.8%
  • No. Apple has received the appropriate amount of backlash and loss of trust.

    Votes: 68 20.0%
  • Yes. It’s not as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

    Votes: 157 46.2%

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I don't think anyone cares. That's the point. For all but the most extreme cases, we're talking fractions of seconds of time savings here. No one notices that it takes 0.025 seconds longer to launch the Mail app so it doesn't bother anyone.

Stop making yourself crazy over geekbench scores. You're not a speed skater and the iPhone is not a pair of skates. It's a mobile phone. If I were you I'd worry about real things that really impact the iPhone experience like LTE availability, wi-fi speeds, the congestion of streaming data, gmail load times, and on and on. Fractions of seconds of processing time? Please.

Fractions of a second? I think you have been on the beach a bit too long.

Our iPhones have been throttled around 30%, and it takes more than 3 seconds to open default Mail app. We probably lucked out on having the better battery.
 
I don't think anyone cares. That's the point. For all but the most extreme cases, we're talking fractions of seconds of time savings here. No one notices that it takes 0.025 seconds longer to launch the Mail app so it doesn't bother anyone.

Stop making yourself crazy over geekbench scores. You're not a speed skater and the iPhone is not a pair of skates. It's a mobile phone. If I were you I'd worry about real things that really impact the iPhone experience like LTE availability, wi-fi speeds, the congestion of streaming data, gmail load times, and on and on. Fractions of seconds of processing time? Please.
My battery life is average and to be honest I don’t notice my phone being any slower than it was a year ago. But if I can get a brand new genuine battery for £25 fitted then I’m happy
 
They had some faulty batteries and they tried to remedy the situation. They should have just offered a fix, but that would obviously look bad. They offer up replacement batteries now for relatively cheap. Seems like this is a good solution. What is everyone still complaining about? Any other company/situation and you would likely be out of luck. What else at this point would make you happy again?
 
If your iPhone battery has dropped to 80% in a year, then I believe you need to ask yourself what you are doing to it. Did you buy this phone used or are you the original owner? Have you jailbroken this iPhone? Do you run the battery down to 2% each day, run it back up to 35% just to make it to bedtime, and then run it back down to 2% again? Do you stream video for hours at a time while getting Snapchat and Instagram notifications simultaneously? These things can all be the answer to why a battery is dying prematurely, nothing to do with Apple, everything to do with its users.



Here we go again with someone getting upset over an app. CPU DasherX? Never heard of it. Who says that app is accurate? Just like Geekbench, how do you know what the app developer created and how accurate it is? You can get a lot of app downloads if you play with the data and create an unnecessary panic.

Oh dear oh dear, well considering Mac Rumors is even reporting Apple ONLY admitted to and revealed it had been deliberately throttling iPhones AFTER the founder of Geekbench proved it and showed the evidence...

Their is literally no point arguing with you, because I bet with you, if Apple didn’t make it or say it it simo,y does not exist or never happened right?

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-secretly-slowing-down-older-iphones.2099262/

And I don’t do any of what your first paragraph states. So your totally wrong there too...
 
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What I quoted were two conflicting remarks, one stating that an iPhone’s battery will not degrade to 80% capacity for 2 years, and the other saying that it reaches that level of wear within a single year.

When the throttling begins is actually a separate question.

Why is where the throttling begins a separate question when my iPhone is constantly throttled? You can’t separate the two, and it is not a fact that the battery doesn’t degrade to 80% in two years only.

FACT: Apple state the software throttles your iPhone due to battery wear.

FACT: My phone and many others throttle all the time.

FACT: My battery’s quality at full charge is at 92% and never runs at its full speed.

FACT: Until this week Apple would ONLY replace an iPhone battery, even if you paid them if their own diagnostics software stated your battery was below 80% quality.

The conflict is not from me or anyone else, it is from Apple because it’s they who say one thing in their stores and another in iOS, they throttle your iPhone, will not replace the battery, but happily advise you to buy a new iPhone....

The 20 Plus lawsuites are only the beginning on this one....
 
Fractions of a second? I think you have been on the beach a bit too long.

Our iPhones have been throttled around 30%, and it takes more than 3 seconds to open default Mail app. We probably lucked out on having the better battery.

And you can difinitively show that the reason it takes your phone “more than 3 seconds” to open the mail app is because Apple throttled it?

If it’s really taking you that long to open your mail app, it’s not throttling. It’s another issue.
 
They had some faulty batteries and they tried to remedy the situation. They should have just offered a fix, but that would obviously look bad. They offer up replacement batteries now for relatively cheap. Seems like this is a good solution. What is everyone still complaining about? Any other company/situation and you would likely be out of luck. What else at this point would make you happy again?
There are several reports of devices being throttled significantly enough to affect normal day to day performance. At 600 GB4, that's pretty much below iPhone 5/5c level running iOS 11 needing to drive a higher resolution display. However, from anecdotes, some of these are testing fine per Apple's battery diagnostics. Apple's offering a discounted $29 battery replacement and will replace batteries regardless of what their diagnostics say this year. Question is what happens next year and the years after? Sure, it's to be expected that the iPhone 6/6s won't be as fast on newer iOS versions but to be slower than the 5/5c and then be told that Apple won't do anything (not even an OOW replacement) because Apple's diagnostics software says the battery is fine?

Part of the reason I'm willing to pay premium prices for Apple products is because of excellent customer service. Sure the occasional lemon can't be avoided. That's just normal with any manufacturing. What set Apple apart was they went above and beyond keeping customers happy compared to other manufacturers. I've had a number of devices replaced by Apple under warranty (last one was in 2015, iirc). All of those have been very smooth experiences. However, the way this recent issue is being handled is a cause for concern. Granted, I wouldn't jump ship unless I personally experience poor customer service.
 
I don't think anyone cares. That's the point. For all but the most extreme cases, we're talking fractions of seconds of time savings here. No one notices that it takes 0.025 seconds longer to launch the Mail app so it doesn't bother anyone.

Stop making yourself crazy over geekbench scores. You're not a speed skater and the iPhone is not a pair of skates. It's a mobile phone. If I were you I'd worry about real things that really impact the iPhone experience like LTE availability, wi-fi speeds, the congestion of streaming data, gmail load times, and on and on. Fractions of seconds of processing time? Please.

I notice you decided to simply ignore everything else I posted. You just ignore everything that you choose and keep pandering the same defeated arguments over and over.

Slow devices is the single biggest prompt for people to upgrade. Phones are being throttled down to 40% CPU speed, without telling anyone that they were doing it or how to fix it, and you think it doesn't matter at all.

My iPhone 6 now takes around 5 seconds to load the Music app. It isn't fractions of a second, and to pretend so is dishonest and misleading.
 
There are several reports of devices being throttled significantly enough to affect normal day to day performance. At 600 GB4, that's pretty much below iPhone 5/5c level running iOS 11 needing to drive a higher resolution display. However, from anecdotes, some of these are testing fine per Apple's battery diagnostics. Apple's offering a discounted $29 battery replacement and will replace batteries regardless of what their diagnostics say this year. Question is what happens next year and the years after? Sure, it's to be expected that the iPhone 6/6s won't be as fast on newer iOS versions but to be slower than the 5/5c and then be told that Apple won't do anything (not even an OOW replacement) because Apple's diagnostics software says the battery is fine?

Part of the reason I'm willing to pay premium prices for Apple products is because of excellent customer service. Sure the occasional lemon can't be avoided. That's just normal with any manufacturing. What set Apple apart was they went above and beyond keeping customers happy compared to other manufacturers. I've had a number of devices replaced by Apple under warranty (last one was in 2015, iirc). All of those have been very smooth experiences. However, the way this recent issue is being handled is a cause for concern. Granted, I wouldn't jump ship unless I personally experience poor customer service.

Sooooo you're all good then?
 
Fractions of a second? I think you have been on the beach a bit too long.

Our iPhones have been throttled around 30%, and it takes more than 3 seconds to open default Mail app. We probably lucked out on having the better battery.

Who is "we"? How old is your iPhone? Are you the original owner? Does it have it's original battery? Have you ever jailbroken your iPhone? These statements of displeasure aren't meaningful unless we know the context.

I have 4 teens with iPhone's. I know what abuse is. My daughter babies her iPhone 6, it runs perfectly, is nice and fast.

My son treats his iPhone like crap, it's never charged fully during the day, he lets the battery go down to 2% and then tops it off to 20% before letting it die again over and over, the backlight is always lit with scores of Snapchat and Instagram alerts, he leaves it in a cold ice rink for 3 hours and then takes a hot and steamy bus home for 90 minutes. I am not surprised when he tells me "dad, my iPhone is slow and the battery sucks".

I don't blame Apple. I blame his abuse.
 
Just curious. For all the people who think "apple is getting what they deserved" or feel absolutely wronged by what Apple did, how many of you still own an iPhone? an Apple product?

With all the hate/outrage on this post I assume everyone complaining has severed all ties with Apple by now....

Because I am not going to get ride of it. I paid money for that. Simple is that. Apple would love people just throw their old phone and call it day. Better yet, buy a new iPhone right?

iDenfense team is unbelievable sometimes
 
I notice you decided to simply ignore everything else I posted. You just ignore everything that you choose and keep pandering the same defeated arguments over and over.

Slow devices is the single biggest prompt for people to upgrade. Phones are being throttled down to 40% CPU speed, without telling anyone that they were doing it or how to fix it, and you think it doesn't matter at all.

My iPhone 6 now takes around 5 seconds to load the Music app. It isn't fractions of a second, and to pretend so is dishonest and misleading.

So regardless of what boltjames says, Apple is offering a fix for the issue. Are you still not satisfied? I think that's what a lot of the "defenders" are saying. It's not nearly as widespread as people seem to think and Apple is offering a fix. What else needs to be discussed about it?
 
The conflict is not from me or anyone else, it is from Apple because it’s they who say one thing in their stores and another in iOS, they throttle your iPhone, will not replace the battery, but happily advise you to buy a new iPhone....The 20 Plus lawsuites are only the beginning on this one....

No, they don't. This isn't Apple Store behavior which is more like a Rolex store or a Louis Vuitton store. Customers are left alone when they walk in, are given help only when they are asked, and there is no shark-like hard-pressure selling as you are describing it.

This is Apple. It's not the hair extensions kiosk in the mall or the girl with the Chinese ribs in the food court.

And class-action lawsuits are dime-a-dozen. Now there's an industry with shark-like hard-pressure salesmen.
 
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And you can difinitively show that the reason it takes your phone “more than 3 seconds” to open the mail app is because Apple throttled it?

If it’s really taking you that long to open your mail app, it’s not throttling. It’s another issue.

Thank you. Throttling of a processor capable of millions of calculations a second and the launching of an app are two different things.

I bet his phone is jailbroken. And then they wonder why they have problems and need Geekbench to help them point the finger at Apple.
 
Apple apologized and is offering a fix for the issue. What else do you want them to do?

Like free battery replacement would be nice?

Don't you think charging someone to fix their own mistake is kind not really good way to show they really sorry?
 
Thank you. Throttling of a processor capable of millions of calculations a second and the launching of an app are two different things.

I bet his phone is jailbroken. And then they wonder why they have problems and need Geekbench to help them point the finger at Apple.
Yes, everyone with a slow phone is discreetly using a jail broken one. Has nothing to do with Apple's admitted throttling of their phone. After all, a CPU that has been throttled 30% is still able to do countless calculations per second.

Oh look, AAPL is up 1% today to $175. I like mentioning random things.
 
Like free battery replacement would be nice?

Don't you think charging someone to fix their own mistake is kind not really good way to show they really sorry?

Depends. I think $29 is a relatively minor cost. They are also offering this to everyone regardless of if your battery is bad or not. In my eyes, they are absorbing their cost for the mistake they made. I guess I don't get why people are still up in arms about it. Take your battery and move on. Problem solved.
 
Thank you. Throttling of a processor capable of millions of calculations a second and the launching of an app are two different things.

I bet his phone is jailbroken. And then they wonder why they have problems and need Geekbench to help them point the finger at Apple.

Throttling a processor to 600Mhz... This is iPhone 3GS speed.

Congratulations, your iPhone 6 or 6S just became iPhone 3GS.
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Depends. I think $29 is a relatively minor cost. They are also offering this to everyone regardless of if your battery is bad or not. In my eyes, they are absorbing their cost for the mistake they made. I guess I don't get why people are still up in arms about it. Take your battery and move on. Problem solved.

Why should we cover the cost for the mistake they made? Can you give me a justification?
 
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I notice you decided to simply ignore everything else I posted. You just ignore everything that you choose and keep pandering the same defeated arguments over and over.

Slow devices is the single biggest prompt for people to upgrade. Phones are being throttled down to 40% CPU speed, without telling anyone that they were doing it or how to fix it, and you think it doesn't matter at all.

My iPhone 6 now takes around 5 seconds to load the Music app. It isn't fractions of a second, and to pretend so is dishonest and misleading.

I do not choose to ignore everything else that you posted, I merely responded to the part I felt needed to be spoken to. If you have specific questions you want me to answer, I'm not running, fire away.

I am used to old iPhones slowing down as new iOS versions are launched. After 10 years, so is everyone else. I cannot discern which speed loss was a result of a tired battery, an old processor, a new iOS version, or a tweak to battery management code. Neither can other regular people.

As other posters have stated, if it's taking you 5 seconds to load an app there is something else wrong with your phone. Did you jailbreak it? Are you the original owner?
 
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