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zephyrnoid

macrumors 6502
Jan 12, 2008
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Geneva Switzerland
I'm too new to Photomatix to answer properly, but in theory, you should have LESS noise than from a single image, unless maybe your images are very noisy to begin with. What size is our image?

How do you guys get such dynamic images without any graininess. When I use Photomatix (I'm still very new to it) and I save the image I create it gets a lot of grain, whether it's from one RAW or three different pictures.
 

klymr

macrumors 65816
May 16, 2007
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103
Utah
You have to shoot at a very low ISO. When you combine them it really boosts the noise (not weakens it). I haven't been able to successfully shoot a night scene and do HDR to it. Then again, I don't own a digital camera either so I haven't given it many tries. When I did my HDR stuff I lowered the ISO to 200, sometimes less depending on the light. Anyway, give that a shot.
 

juanster

macrumors 68020
Mar 2, 2007
2,238
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toronto
i have been trying to get an hdr from some pictures i have and i keep getting this... what am i doing wrong?....
 

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SolracSelbor

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Nov 26, 2007
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i have been trying to get an hdr from some pictures i have and i keep getting this... what am i doing wrong?....

Wow! Thats an awesome photo!







Just kidding, you have to have different shots with different exposures. If your exposures do not deviate much from each other than it wont work. What program is that? Photoshop? I recommend using Photomatix if you arent.
 

juanster

macrumors 68020
Mar 2, 2007
2,238
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toronto
Wow! Thats an awesome photo!







Just kidding, you have to have different shots with different exposures. If your exposures do not deviate much from each other than it wont work. What program is that? Photoshop? I recommend using Photomatix if you arent.

haha,, i got the exposures to -2.00, 0 and +2.00 yes i am using photoshop.. i may get the trial version of photomatix and see how it goes.... since i already have photoshop... thx
 

onomatopoeia

macrumors 6502
Dec 9, 2007
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Did you strip the EXIF info from the photos? I don't use Photoshop for HDR but other HDR apps use the EXIF to determine exposure. If it's not there it will often have you manually enter it.
 

zephyrnoid

macrumors 6502
Jan 12, 2008
255
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Geneva Switzerland
It's pretty obvious- if you study the surface lighting carefully- that the 6 and 7 exposure composites include images that were shot as various times of day as a sequence. For clues, look at the variance between the clouds and the surface 'sunset' lighting raking the buildings at 90º. I'd say there was a spread of between 1 and 3 hrs between the first 'frame' and the last. So something like this maybe...
1) 2 hrs before sunset (Just the clouds)
2) 1 hr before sunset (Ambient)
3) 30 minutes before sunset (90º lighting)
4) 15 minutes before sunset (glow)
5) sunset (Glow)
6) 1 hr after sunset (even mix between sky & artificial light)
7) 2 hrs after sunset (windows & exterior street light only)
:D
 

thaniel98

macrumors newbie
Jan 30, 2008
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Here is my second attempt at HDR. This picture started out pretty bland due to the intense overcast. Opinions?
 

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zephyrnoid

macrumors 6502
Jan 12, 2008
255
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Geneva Switzerland
My fast guess would be- you probably didn't need to do it on a shot that was made in broad daylight with overcast sky. Remember that HDR is really a modern-day 'compaction', that is, compensating for dynamic range that is beyond the scope of the sensor + processor ( typical in night scenes ). So speaking in Zone System terms. If the range between the brightest white area and the darkest one is 14 stops for example, shooting two or three frames and running the HDR algorithm brings the range down to 10, or as we've seen here, even 8 or 9.
If however you're faced with a scene that's only 5 stops from blackest black to whitest white (That's flat) , then HDR will actually flatten your image even more (notice that it has in your mansion shot). So in fact what your particular scene needs if anything, is an expansion of the range- that you do by simply increasing contrast on ONE image. I typically do that with PS levels or curves.:D

Here is my second attempt at HDR. This picture started out pretty bland due to the intense overcast. Opinions?
 

Optimus Rhyme

macrumors regular
Oct 28, 2006
167
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London, UK
Took a few shots of the sunset from my apartment. Wasn't quite good enough for me to want to go down to the beach to capture it with a better view. I figure I'd post them anyways. Not my favorite set of pictures, but they'll do.
 

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RobbieS

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Feb 28, 2008
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I am nowhere even close to being as good as you guys, but practice makes perfect. I just made my first attempt at HDR photography, and I would love some advice.
Taken with a Nikon d40/tripod. 18mm, +2,0,-2 exposure. Photoshop/Photomatix Pro. Dying flowers from Valentine's Day. What can I improve on?
 

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Grimace

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Feb 17, 2003
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with Hamburglar.
I am nowhere even close to being as good as you guys, but practice makes perfect. I just made my first attempt at HDR photography, and I would love some advice.
Taken with a Nikon d40/tripod. 18mm, +2,0,-2 exposure. Photoshop/Photomatix Pro. Dying flowers from Valentine's Day. What can I improve on?

In that composition, there isn't much range in the lighting. It even looks like there was a flash at the outset. Outdoor photos have a much greater degree of variance because there isn't consistent lighting.
 

termina3

macrumors 65816
Jul 16, 2007
1,078
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TX
I am nowhere even close to being as good as you guys, but practice makes perfect. I just made my first attempt at HDR photography, and I would love some advice.
Taken with a Nikon d40/tripod. 18mm, +2,0,-2 exposure. Photoshop/Photomatix Pro. Dying flowers from Valentine's Day. What can I improve on?

What story is your photo telling? What are you trying to express? What emotion do you want to evoke?

Shoot with a goal in mind--a feel, a motive, whatever. To have success you have to define it first.
 

fett

macrumors 6502
Nov 5, 2007
278
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Calgary, AB
What story is your photo telling? What are you trying to express? What emotion do you want to evoke?

Shoot with a goal in mind--a feel, a motive, whatever. To have success you have to define it first.

I was watching a photography show the other night, I can't remember the photographer's name but he said that when he was taking pictures he would have one word that described the photo he was trying to take. It's something that I'm being trying to do lately, a lot of time I only see interesting shapes, colors, etc. I get caught up in composite but miss the important story behind the photo that really grabs the viewer.

Anyway that was the long way of saying I agree with termina3.
 

Doylem

macrumors 68040
Dec 30, 2006
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Wherever I hang my hat...
I don't want to comment on any individual pic... but rather an attitude. People saying things like "The light was bland", "the pic looked kinda boring", "The composition wasn't great"... and then, instead of just deleting their pix, they try to give them the 'kiss of life' with HDR. They wonder, of course, why their efforts don't match up to the best they see on these pages.

The best pix, IMO, require a bit of pre-planning, and HDR should be part of that planning... not merely an afterthought. Have an aim in mind before you press the shutter. And there's really no point in using HDR where the dynamic range produces a good photo without it (and that's the great majority of photos).

Use HDR sparingly, with a bit of taste and discrimination... like you'd use chilli powder in cooking. Just my two-pennorth... ;)
 

Mac Addict

macrumors member
Feb 12, 2008
78
6
Chicagoland
First of all, THANK YOU Valdore. This technique is fun! Attached is my first HDR that is way over the top. I have some great potential photo's that would blend real nice, but I'll save that another night to play with. I'll tone down future HDR, this was just so fun to do.

Single RAW, 1/60 - F5.6 - ISO100 - 17mm
 

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tjespo22

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2007
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Staten Island NY
im confused, how are some of you making hdr shots with only 1 raw photo? are you takin it and changing the expose of that one pic then combining them?
thanks
espo
 

valdore

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Jan 9, 2007
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Kansas City, Missouri. USA
im confused, how are some of you making hdr shots with only 1 raw photo? are you takin it and changing the expose of that one pic then combining them?
thanks
espo

Yes. Usually adjusting the exposures to +2, 0, and -2. And then combining them in Photomatix just like you would multiple shots straight from the camera.
 

iDave1984

macrumors newbie
Mar 10, 2008
3
0
West Midlands - England
Hey Guys,

Long time observer / admirer of the images shared here...
Just thought I'd join you guys, and share a few of my attempts at HDR Imaging...

Critique welcomed...

Dave
 

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Optimus Rhyme

macrumors regular
Oct 28, 2006
167
30
London, UK
Very impressive photos iDave1984. You went the subtle route, rather than the over the top HDR. I personally like both types, but your pictures are well suited for the more subtle use of HDR. Well done.
 

iBallz

macrumors 6502
Dec 31, 2007
288
0
So. Utah
MC, great colors! Dont ya just hate power lines now? Every time I think of a good place for a photo, I see power-lines in the way.:mad:
 
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