My Bleu Indigo watch is preparing to ship. Original estimate was Oct 19-26... How long does it take to get to the US from China?
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It’s from a Chinese site called taobao.
But they recently changed the terms and they’re not letting the seller ship overseas (copyright issue or something)
Thank you Boardiesboi. You replica is extraordinary faked, one must be an expert to note the differences
That said colorwise we have the same taste
I am still in doubt wether to get the Series 4 with or without folding buckle. I have one now and keep it as spare but my main objection is that with even Series 4 construction band and buckles are not interchangeable
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I am glad you kept the Hermès watch, well I hope this is a final decision as I remember last year very well.
This might not be your taste, but I got a original Apple Link bracelet in black for my eldest son and a silver to fit my Hermès from this Bay seller: https://www.ebay.nl/str/chargerstore.
Genuine Apple and my came as new... I do not wear it a lot but I paid GBP 112 for the black version and silver version.
I have to disagree with some of what Urban Extant said. I would note, however, that my disagreement comes from over a decade of collecting Hermes handbags in all leathers and from all periods (I have bags dating back to the 30s, and bags from 2017). I don't have extensive experience with the watch straps-- mine arrives next week-- but the characteristics should be the same. Hermes does sometimes use different parts of a hide for different size products, so their could be some differences, but the finishing would be the same as with their bags. With that disclaimer out of the way....
The descriptions quoted by Urban Extant above are not from Hermes, and not given to customers. They are from a site called Baghunter that resells handbags, and I don't think they necessarily know what they're talking about as resellers.
So, some thoughts from many years using these leathers:
1. Epsom DOES soften with wear, and it does gain a sheen to it. It usually takes a couple of years of use for this to happen. It also does stretch, like any leather; I'm looking at a soft, glossy, stretched Epsom cardholder as I type this. It does absorb colors beautifully. That being said, it is a coated leather, and it's just not as enjoyable to use and touch as other Hermes leathers-- I definitely agree with Urban Extant about that.
Epsom is also 100% NOT resistant to scratching. In fact, the worst part about Epsom, in my opinion, is that scratches can't be repaired in the same way that they can be in other leathers. Hermes can restore a boxcalf leather bag back to looking almost new, but once Epsom has scuffed or scratched, it will always be there.
2. I believe the remarks on Swift confuse it with Boxcalf. Boxcalf will blister in the rain. Swift is absolutely reliable; one of my travel bags is Swift and it looks new after 8 years that have included being shoved under airplane seats and hauled through downpours. In my experience Swift's vulnerability is press marks, as it has a beautiful soft hand. But otherwise, I think it's one of the most resilient, beautiful, and all-purpose leathers. TBH I think a lot of people think that softness=fragility and that's how Swift gets a bad rap.
3. I find Barenia exceptionally durable, but I think @Boardiesboi's comments about water spots are very much worth noting. I have four Barenia bags and I use them in the rain (heavy rain in London) all the time, BUT they are extremely well-patinated, since they all date from the early 2000s. Patina protects leather as well as making it more beautiful, and that might account for the difference between the new watch straps and well-worn Barenia. I'd also note (in contrast to Urban Extant) that Barenia is one of the LEAST sweat-resistant leathers. This is why Barenia handbags typically have darkened handles, sometimes almost black, because the oils from the skin of the user have impregnated the leather there. I do find, however, in agreement with Urban Extant, that incidental oil spots (from contact with a kitchen oil, for instance), are absorbed by the leather over the course of several days.
The strap I've chosen for myself is Barenia, and I might decide when it arrives to saddle soap it before I use it-- a friend did that with hers and has had no problems with spotting. If I do, I'll be sure to post the results of that experiment.
Great, informative post! I always wanted to hear first hand experience from avid Hermès lovers!
Just to give some extra assurance to Swift owners and prospective buyers-- I've grabbed a gold Swift agenda and run it under the faucet. Before, the topmost pic. Middle, doused. Bottom, a few minutes after the water droplets were shaken off. It dries very quickly!
I wouldn't leave Swift soaking overnight in the tub or anything, but I wouldn't do that to any leather
You can also see some press marks from the agenda insert I use, in case anyone wonders what those look like.
I wouldn't leave Swift soaking overnight in the tub or anything, but I wouldn't do that to any leather
You can also see some press marks from the agenda insert I use, in case anyone wonders what those look like.
Thank you so much for your elaborating post. I can’t wait to see the results of the saddle soap treatment. In fact I might try it on my worn Hermès strap and see what happens …
That said, I never understood the upcoming ‘hysteria’ from AW users when their Hermès leather straps got spots, stain or other influences from the outside. Please give the strap a fair chance to age by wear and you will enjoy it even more
Despite @mhoutman’s reservations about it, my favourite Hermès band is the deployment. It was the first one I tried last year. It felt really premium. But I just didn’t like either of the colour options.
Matt, I full agree on use but that makes it even more disappointing that the connection is fixed. Adding some screws or pins would not have cost that much extra
[doublepost=1538748807][/doublepost]I might add the Hermès Fauve Grained Barenia Leather Single Tour Rallye band as I like the look of the grained leather. Looks sporty to me and reminds me of the vintage Tissots and (TAG) Heuers
Anybody here with this 2018 band ?
PS Last year there was one in black…
De gustibus non est disputandum! I love the Ebene. The deep chocolate brown looks - to me - extremely elegant. Combined with the strong look of the epsom it's a really winner IMO. It's weird how many compliments I get on it, far more than on my other Hermes band, the (very rare) single tour Etain.
I love it too!! That’s what I wear every day I was dishes with it on, wash my hands with it on, and I don’t have any issues with it staying in or damaging the leather in anyway
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I suppose this is an example of how everyone has a different experience. I actually called my sales rep at Hermès and ran my descriptions by her before posting the post you take issue with. So the descriptions may have partly come from another site, they were vetted by my Hermès rep.
I have 6 Constance Belts, and several dozen H Belts, all of varying leathers, colors, sizes (height, not length). The porosus crocodile belt being the most delicate of the Constance Belts. I also have half a dozen bags from Hermès in different leathers, many sets of leather sandals, and various clothing items, basically a closet filled by Hermès. My Epsom Constance Belt is 5 years old, and it's hard as a rock still, and has not stretched one bit, nor have my French Bulldogs' nails been able to scratch it, try as they might! All of the other Constance Belts have stretched slightly, and softened, same to be said for the H Belts, and the bags.
My experience with Swift is that it does get affected with water, if the water sits on it, because you have not noticed it, and if the water hits where there may have been a slight scratch, even an invisible scratch, or a crack in the sealing of the leather on the sides/seams. Water quickly wiped off causes no issues. It does wear well, I will agree with you on that, but it isn't as durable as some of Hermès other leathers, or as well as some here would like it to.
Barenia is a naturally tanned leather with vegetable dyes and oils to produce its color and beautiful smooth finish. Oil doesn't like water, it's more resistant to it. That's why it was used for saddles, which are exposed to all environments. I have four Barenia watch straps, and a bag made out of it, and sweat has never been an issue. It does darken slightly, but again, that is the "patina" that is referred to in its description. It is to be expected. Trust me, living on Cape Cod, with the humidity here, you sweat some days, and those Barenia straps and bag are just fine. Clean them, let them dry, and they go back to normal, or slightly darker with a patina. Any leather, left uncleaned after exposed to sweat will have issues. You sweat on the leather, common sense says CLEAN IT!!! If you sweat in your shirt, do you leave it and wear it another day, or do you clean it?! Same routine should apply to high quality leather. Clean it. To even out any imperfections, use the balm I posted a link to in the previous post. It is a wonderful product, but use it sparingly so as to not damage the leather. A little of that goes a long way. Most often, though, just let the blotch soak into the leather and disperse, and you don't see it anymore, and you don't need to do anything other than a mild cleaning of the item before setting it aside to dry and do its thing.
Box Calf and Swift are of a similar variety, with similar characteristics, with Box being shinier than the other, and albeit with Box being more delicate, and prone to damage than Swift is. Water hitting Box Leather almost immediately causes a blister and water ring. There is little to no time to wipe it off and be safe. I handle my H Belt Box Calf straps with kid gloves, and I never expose them to sweat, water, oil.
Again, everyone is going to have different experiences with these leathers, and products, and they are going to care for them differently. I am simply passing on my experiences with them over many decades of owning Hermès products. My spouse refers to me as an "orange bag whore", in the most lovingly way possible, because every time I walk into Hermès, I walk out with dozens of bags. So, I'm posting with experience gleaned over many years, and many products.
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I was going to order the 44 with Clown but you can’t order it will it come back I’m not in rush
Welp, thanks to this thread I just ordered the 44mm Ébène Barenia deployment strap to sit alongside my Fauve Barenia standard strap... picking up some time today. I can see where this collector itch with Hermès can become trouble very quickly.
Is this the Saddle Soap you'll be using? https://www.hermes.com/us/en/product/saddle-balm-H800327Ev00/
That’s the product I use on my fauve barenia leather items. Use sparingly.
[doublepost=1538766657][/doublepost]I have been meaning to point out that the Hermès online store is a separate entity to the brick and mortar stores. Just because you don’t see what you want online, don’t despair, call your local store and ask them to search. Their inventory is separate from the online store’s inventory, and they can search all Hermès stores in your marketing zone. If they find the item, they can have it shipped to your home. I got my last pair of sandals that way. The size I needed was only in stock in Vegas. They arrived two days after ordering.
I would just keep an eye on the Apple Store daily. The single tour Bleu Indigo was out for a couple of days and more inventory showed up online today.
As of a few minutes ago, almost all bands and options are now available on Hermès.com just an FYI
Same situation, model and same message for me. UPS promised this monday before end of the day.
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Which band is that? Is it black?Finally got mine.
Luba, that's another great Hermes product which I mentioned a few pages back-- I posted some photos to show how it looks during and after application to Barenia if you're interested in seeing what the process is like (it can look alarmingly blotchy while it's soaking in). It's terrific for feeding the leather, but must be used sparingly. I apply it only once a year to bags I use heavily. If applied too often, the leather can become overfed and get softer and darker than you might like. I always recommend testing a small hidden corner of the leather before applying ANY product, because what makes one person happy might make another upset.
The soap I'll use is also an Hermes product, but it's just glycerin saddle soap. Here it is: https://www.hermes.com/us/en/product/glycerin-soap-H800101Ev09/ From what I've been told it's identical to any glycerin saddle soap. I was given a bar at an Hermes event, otherwise I'd probably just buy a regular non-Hermes-priced bar!
PS re: the soap, one person who had the glycerine soap applied at the Paris atelier says it does darken the leather slightly (see https://www.instagram.com/p/i2L4TyRXoX/). My friend who did this to her watch band didn't notice darkening, but it might have been subtle enough that she missed it.
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Just ordered the Fauve Barenia Deployment and Rallye bands from Hermès to go with my Ebene Deployment.
Can’t wait till next week to try them out next week.
Can’t wait till next week to try them out next week.