Of course it's possible
someone just need to take a time, write a script (patch script can be freely distributed, unlike modified (c) files) and get all the fame for it.
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How macOS Sierra handle Mac Pro 4,1 and 5,1? Interesting!!
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Of course it's possible
someone just need to take a time, write a script (patch script can be freely distributed, unlike modified (c) files) and get all the fame for it.
It looks like the Distribution file in the OSinstall.mpkg has changed a bit. You'll need to remove the "non-supported models" and also inject the board IDs. Pacifist or Flat Package extractor should be able to handle that.
EDIT: Flat Package Extractor is the way to go.
EDIT: Flat Package Extractor is the way to go.
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Thank you Sir.....
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Well, you can buy the same hardware from eBay at 1/3 of the price you linked. Search and see what I mean
About the rest... just wait and see what our community can find out or work on a "patch". If you can't wait, I suggest you go get a custom built PC and if you need macOS installed to it, use the Hackintosh way. Better performance than any Mac Pro can be achieved, only headache is patching/drivers/bootloaders etc.
Be patient and always make some research before you buy anything
Cheers!
I like this answer. I do NOT like hacking or patching BUT, I love my 3,1 with my 7970. If I just have to have MacOS and these features after its been out for a minute or two, then I will do what I need to do. A newer Mac Pro or any computer for that matter is not in my cards for some time. Especially considering how well it works now. If it were not for Drivers I may even be inclined to go back to 10.5 ... LOL. I want a 2013 Mac Pro but $2200 is still too rich for me.
$35? The cheapest I found is $52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fenvi-Deskt...300M-BT40-80211abgnac-win7-8-10-/111939789423
Can you post a link please?
Well, you can buy the same hardware from eBay at 1/3 of the price you linked. Search and see what I mean
About the rest... just wait and see what our community can find out or work on a "patch". If you can't wait, I suggest you go get a custom built PC and if you need macOS installed to it, use the Hackintosh way. Better performance than any Mac Pro can be achieved, only headache is patching/drivers/bootloaders etc.
Be patient and always make some research before you buy anything
Cheers!
And this would probably apply to the other unsupported Macs as well, right? For example, Apple cut off support for the 2009 MacBook Pro and Mac Mini. I wonder how Sierra would do on a laptop.
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Odd - we had a lot of issues with our Dell; mainly with the ethernet controller deciding to not work after the machine would awake from sleep. No doubt, though, that Hackintoshing has become so much easier. That being said, there's still a learning curve and things that can go wrong. Although, if Apple doesn't improve their current state, I'll probably switch to Hackintosh once I can no longer squeeze life out of my 2009 Mac Pro. (Or, rather, once Apple decides to not let me squeeze anymore life out of my Mac Pro...)
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Do you know if the WiFi card / bluetooth module from a 2008 iMac would work? I gutted a 24" '08 iMac recently, and from it I removed two chips: one seemed to be the WiFi card (which I briefly used in my 2006 Mac Pro), and the other looked to be a bluetooth chip. Although I'm guess that it's too old of a chip / cannot be separate from the WiFi card. BTW, sorry if this has been said already, but aren't there relatively cheap 3rd party dongles that can be used? Also, to each his own. I personally wouldn't use anything that requires Bluetooth, unless key components of the OS demand it. Hopefully, though, people wanting to take advantage of the new features will be able to find some workaround for them. Just wondering, though, if most can get by without a new dongle.
Here's one for $38.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Broadcom-BC...295903?hash=item3ab81214df:g:yigAAOSwHQ9WX0dk
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On the Dell PC that I found, getting ethernet to work probably was the most difficult part. After getting OS X installed and running, all seemed fine and it was running great including ethernet and internet surfing. Then, I tried to write some files to my NAS and the writing would stall almost immediately after starting. It was a consistent problem that was 100% reproducible. At first, I used an old Apple branded USB to ethernet adaptor and it worked but only at 100Base-T...
I finally figured out that once transfers hit the theoretical speed limit of the built in gigabit ethernet, the ethernet would stall and the only way to bring it back would be to sleep or restart. So, I installed Network Link Conditioner from Xcode and set up a profile to limit the maximum transfer speeds of the gigabit ethernet. It's not the ideal solution, but everything works now and I'm able to write to my NAS without problems, albeit at slightly reduced speeds. Internet surfing in completely unaffected since my broadband connection doesn't come close to maxing out the gigabit ethernet.
I blame this ethernet issue to very old driver that seems to have been abandoned quite a while ago. The ethernet controller used in the motherboard that I plan to use for my upcoming hackintosh build is supposedly much better and, as far as I know, still getting updates.
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Just tested the BT 4.0 dongle on my 4,1. It works flawlessly. I use the USB BT dongle since Yosemite (use BT explorer to manually select the dongle, and then the system always use it).
It seems PRAM store the info about which BT to use. I make a new partition on my SSD, install a clean 10.12 DP1. And the system go straight away to the BT 4.0 dongle after first boot.
SIP remain disable.
TRIM need to be enable again by the same terminal command.
And guess what? RAID is coming back in the new disk utility!
Interesting - what about a PCI ethernet card or dongle? I was considering that for the Dell, but we didn't get around to it and, now, it's not longer a Hackintosh. Yeah, Gigabyte boards are the best for Hackintoshes. It can be a pain trying to use some board from a pre-build.
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So, were any tweaks needed to get 10.12 on your 4,1, or was the firmware update all you needed + the BT dongle?
The installer work straight away, no other mod or work around required. It's seems all you need is just the 5,1 firmware.
I use that BT 4.0 Dongle simply for better mouse connection. My magic mouse work flawlessly with that dongle, never disconnect. I don't even have Wi-Fi on my 4,1. So, sure that's not a requirement, and can't test any Wi-Fi stuff.
The Del that I found was a small form factor machine with only 1 PCI-e slot and 1 PCI slot. Both low profile. I used the PCI-e slot for an Nvidia GT 630 and tried looking for PCI ethernet card but all the ones I came across used pretty old ethernet chipsets which would mean I would be stuck using old drivers again... So I just decided to live with the slightly below gigabit speeds. It's not a big deal. My hope when salvaging the computer was to experiment with the process of hackintoshing and I accomplished my goal with very good results.
I'm very excited about building my hackintosh which I intend to do the second I return from my vacation next month. I've already begun acquiring some of the smaller more obscure parts that I will need such as wifi/bluetooth card.
I tried a BT 4.0 dongle on my 5.1 2009 MP but I had a compatibility issue using it with Bootcamp/Windows 7. I'm using an external 14" antenna connected to the original Apple BT card, supported with a large rubber band.
I also still have this card which I could give another go.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-App...308998?hash=item3ac2250446:g:7S0AAOSwMHdXTdJq
Nice! Sometimes they can be ticking time bombs, but if I ever wish to build a machine, I'll try it. My 2009 MP should be good for a while, though... assuming Apple doesn't keep screwing things up.
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Cool - good to see that it can installation without anything extra. Have you tested FaceTime and Messages/iCloud accounts? Those are the only two things I'm personally worried about. I have no hardware for Apple Pay or any of those extra things that may need the newer Bluetooth dongle. (Heck, I don't even have a bluetooth mouse or keyboard.)
iCloud works very well. All my bookmark, password, etc synced without issue.
It's mid night here, so didn't test the message and FaceTime yet.
BTW, has anyone noticed if they've improved graphical efficiency in Sierra, as far as the UI goes? Because, on some of my older machines (and on my 4,1 with non-flashed GTX 660), some of the animations lag when I have transparency enabled. For example, if I open my downloads folder, with Stacks, the Stacks animation is slightly laggy, and even more so on my 2009 MacBook Pro w/ 9400M GPU. Additionally, the 'Grid' animation I use for my documents is EXTREMELY laggy on the MacBook Pro, especially when my charger is disconnected. I am hoping that transparency has become more efficient under Sierra.
In terms of UI, they do it very well this time, by considering it's DP1, I only see very very little UI bug. And animation is always smooth on my 2 hours test run.
But that may only be true on my 7950.
Has anyone been able to get the Maxwell NVIDIA card working with the open web driver on Sierra? I have a GTX950 and when I install the latest web driver, I get a kernel panic on boot and cannot boot with my card.
I'm currently using a 8800GT which has mac efi on it. Obviously I want to get back to my GTX950 card.
I'm currently using a 8800GT which has mac efi on it. Obviously I want to get back to my GTX950 card.
For the 2,1 I've tried the 3,1 method with a installed image restored to my SSD, I get a good old kernel panic.
Tried with reflashed Sapphire 5770 and official 7300GT
That's too bad. BTW, how come the 3,1 method works in the first place? It looks to be some alternative method used for '06/'07 MacBooks and MacBook Pros, for Mountain Lion through Yosemite.
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It's hard to tell with newer GPUs, since they don't suffer with the UI inefficiencies. My GTX 660 would be fine if it were flashed, but it isn't; and, therefore, it seems to not do well with transparency enabled. I'd disable transparency, but it's about the only visual thing about Yos/El Cap that I like.
Whilst hoping those that know how are able to provide us older Mac Pro users with a life line. I won't dream of trying it until i upgrade the HDD to SSD's. El Cap is just about tolerable as it is.
Instead of cutting older machines off. Apple should have a disclaimer that the older the machine, the less likely it is to benefit from all the new features. I'm not interested in Hand Jobs or letting Apple control what is and is not stored on my hard drive.
Instead of cutting older machines off. Apple should have a disclaimer that the older the machine, the less likely it is to benefit from all the new features. I'm not interested in Hand Jobs or letting Apple control what is and is not stored on my hard drive.
At least one user has stated that when he/she benchmarked Metal, fairly significant improvements were seen. This should benefit the UI.
Yeah, netkas said that Metal is finally implemented properly and is being used to render the GUI on NVIDIA cards now, not just newer Intel graphics. Should be pretty great.
there is seem to be an issue with 1,1/2,1 macpros, they use conroe based cpus, so no sse4,1 support which is used now in OSX. 1,1/2,1 is obsolete now with this. You will have to wait until 10.12 released, kernel sources released and somebody to make sse4,1 emulation (similar to sse3 emulation using sse2 in the past), this will be not fast tho.