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iPad Pro How many of you 2018 iPad Pro users are NOT upgrading?
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I see no need. The processor is the same +1 GPU core. It'll be faster, (maybe upclocked?) but not that much. The cameras are nicer, but it's an iPad. LiDAR will be nice for iPhone and some iPad applications, but it's not nearly as much of a must have as on iPhone... and that assumes on iPhone it makes portrait shots better?
Uh. More RAM. Good. Andddd... the rest of the enhancements are in software. Even the new Magic Keyboard works on the 2018 model.
So unless you really need that extra camera and LiDAR... there's zero improvements. I don't see it. Even the S5 watch was enhanced over the S4 with the always on display (major, for a watch), a compass (for walking maps) and double or quadruple the storage.
The 2020 iPad really isn't much of anything unless you do AR heavily. It's a pass for me. And I buy everything.
Might get the keyboard though.... but then again a trackpad plus the existing keyboard case is almost as good. For cheaper.
Uh. More RAM. Good. Andddd... the rest of the enhancements are in software. Even the new Magic Keyboard works on the 2018 model.
So unless you really need that extra camera and LiDAR... there's zero improvements. I don't see it. Even the S5 watch was enhanced over the S4 with the always on display (major, for a watch), a compass (for walking maps) and double or quadruple the storage.
The 2020 iPad really isn't much of anything unless you do AR heavily. It's a pass for me. And I buy everything.
Might get the keyboard though.... but then again a trackpad plus the existing keyboard case is almost as good. For cheaper.
Not quite sure where you're getting that rather strange and strangely-worded idea..... Looks to me as though people are appropriately assessing whether or not the 2020 iPad Pro will fit their particular needs and usage patterns. For some, the new device offers more than their current one; for others, what is on offer isn't necessarily all that compelling and so they are sitting back a while longer, but that doesn't mean that they are "denouncing" the new 2020 iPad Pro. It is undoubtedly going to be just what some people want and need.
For me, the new iPad Pro is not all that compelling because my current 2018 one has been doing very well with just what I want and need and I don't need AR stuff, I don't need the changes to the camera -- I don't use the camera on my current iPad Pro now -- and I have the appropriate amount of storage space and RAM to suit my needs. I am also not interested in the new keyboard offering, as I use a separate external Apple BT keyboard with my iPad Pro and that works just fine, plus offers more flexibility in movement and positioning than a keyboard actually connected to the device. Not a trackpad person here, either, and don't use the one on my MBP, so why would I use one with my iPad Pro? Just because I am not interested in this and don't need or want it doesn't mean that I feel that others shouldn't appreciate it and purchase and use the device in the way which works best for them.
In short, everyone has different use cases and purposes for their iPad Pro and different priorities when it comes to what is important to them or what is not.
$499AUD for a 11" or $589 for 12" keyboard, Apple are dreaming.
If 2018 iPP didn’t peak your interest when you have the 2017 iPP... not sure what exactly are you looking. I had the 2nd generation 12.9 iPP and the 3rd generation is an awesome upgrade.
The FaceID implementation and USB-C support is a huge win in my book. And I like the smaller frame of the 3rd generation compared to the 2nd generation.
Different people, different priorities and preferences.
For most, I expect compelling is when they start having issues (performance or otherwise) on their existing device that it no longer adequately meets their needs.
I’m good. Kind of o thought about getting a cellular version, but then my iPP connects lightning fast to my iPhone hotspot and will remain connected until I get it back on WiFi. Plus I have unlimited data, so there isn’t a need to upgrade.
I’m hoping the Magic Keyboard will have a design where I won’t have to worry about the camera being different. Never owned a keyboard for an iPad before, but I like this one. We shall see.
I’m hoping the Magic Keyboard will have a design where I won’t have to worry about the camera being different. Never owned a keyboard for an iPad before, but I like this one. We shall see.
Exactly.
FaceID is just a different biometric security system but its invention didn’t suddenly render security of TouchID based devices null and void such that everyone had to upgrade.
UBC-C is nice, but due to software workflow limitations I really don’t feel I’m missing out on anything. I really have no desire to turn my iPad Pro into a laptop replacement so the ability to hook up multiple types of peripherals at the same time using a port hub/port replicator via USB-C isn’t luring me to upgrade. Something needs to happen with iPad OS in terms of workflow improvements, particularly with file management, before I’ll find USB-C more compelling. Sandboxing of files is great for security but it limits workflows. The Files app works in a pinch but it’s no match to Finder, nor is any other file management app that I am aware of on the App Store currently.
I mean... I truly understand that people have different priorities. But my goodness... I’m just curious what that user expectations is in regards to upgrade. They mention peripherals.. so I can assume they are reluctant to go without the lightning port.
Because in regards for upgrades... I look for design changes more than anything. I do like internal upgrades as well... but to really peak my interest I want something visually appealing.
I never said anything about FaceID security being weaker to TouchID. My point on the matter with the difference.. is the convenience factor. As soon as being introduced to FaceID was on iPhone X... I was hooked. And when it arrived on the iPad Pro... it was a smooth transition. Perhaps, you are in the camp of those who still prefer TouchID over FaceID.
And, in regards to USB-C... it’s not about turning your iPad Pro into a laptop replacement. It’s the manner of opportunities you get with the port compared to Lightning port. If that’s something you don’t see.... I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t have a port hub.. I just have some various usb-c cables to micro, to lighting, flash drive, usb-a. Just to provide a sense versatility to my iPad Pro.
In general, most folks don't upgrade unless their current device isn't meeting their needs somehow.
Personally, I don't care about visual upgrades at all. Storage and performance are my primary reasons for upgrading.
The 2018 Pros certainly deliver on those fronts but ultimately, they didn't really do anything that my current iPads don't. Apart from reloads due to RAM, I have absolutely no complaints with performance on the 2017 A10X Pros (and heck, even on older A9X).
For me, USB-C's nice to have but not particularly critical. Given how buggy the Files app has been for me even for just local folder copies, I don't think I'd trust the iPad not to wipe my external hard drive or something which makes the USB-C port far less useful.
I said nothing about degree of security, I’m saying that FaceID is just a DIFFERENT way to secure the iPad. I won’t deny that it is convenient, but those of us with TouchID devices already have a secure means to lock down our devices, that’s all I’m trying to say.
As far as USB-C goes, when I mentioned the hub example it was intended to illustrate the additional functionality that USB-C may provide over the lightning port. The USB-C port is also faster. You mention using various cables to provide versatility, that’s all well and good but what I’m saying is I have no need for that versatility. Perhaps you do and that is fantastic that the capability is there, but for me I can already connect various hard drives and flash drives to my iPad using the USB 3.0 Camera Adapter either one at a time or using a powered USB 3.0 hub, and that’s all I really need out of my iPad right now.
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I think if you have the 2018 it might be worth keeping it and not upgrading. I’m not buying the new pro for the TOF but will certainly test it out it’s more to replace my laptop and with trackpad and mouse support even if you don’t buy the new magic keyboard those features are like an upgrade in itself.
I’am happy apple decided to go the 128GB route though. That will do me just fine storage wise.
I’am happy apple decided to go the 128GB route though. That will do me just fine storage wise.
I might upgrade from my 2nd gen if the chassis and bending issues have been resolved. that was the only reason I held off the 3rd gen.
Will see how it plays out thou and if there talk of a 4th gen anytime soon ish I will wait
Will see how it plays out thou and if there talk of a 4th gen anytime soon ish I will wait
Fair enough. My point on the matter... was your expectations on upgrading. You passed up on the 3rd generation and now this 4th generation. As @rui no onna mention most users won't upgrade unless performance becomes a issue.
I was just curious on your position that's all.
Yes, I'll have agree with you on the bugginess of external drive support (USB-C) and Files App. I'm just hoping after a few tweaks that Apple makes the experience better. Because it's horrible right now. I'm having better results with external drive support on my Note10+ than my iPP.
Getting rid of Touch ID also means a bigger screen size because the home button is gone. That was a huge selling point for me. I was already frustrated by the number of Touch ID failures (especially in the winter).
External drive support in iOS is surprisingly buggy right now - I really do hope we see real improvements soon. The hardware is more than capable so this does seem to be purely a software issue. For the most part I find it robust enough to use providing I stick to certain practices but it should be a much more care free experience!
I had just upgraded from my 10.5 to an 11 iPad Pro last week thinking these would be delayed due to the pandemic. Since the 256GB LTE 11 is $50 cheaper than the one I just bought, I will most likely bite the bullet on the restocking fees (both AT&T and Best Buy charge restocking fees on LTE models).
Nice to have Face ID on all my devices. Opening the 10.5 felt like a step backward. I still have the 10.5 Pro as I haven't sold it yet.
Nice to have Face ID on all my devices. Opening the 10.5 felt like a step backward. I still have the 10.5 Pro as I haven't sold it yet.
I’m content with my 2018 iPad Pro now that I know the new Magic Keyboard will work with it. I didn’t see any major improvements when looking at the specs on Apple’s website (slightly faster processor and 2 camera array but not the 3 camera array in the iPhone 11 Pro) and logged on here to make sure I wasn’t missing something. Y’all have confirmed I‘m correct that the new iPad itself is a minor incremental bump, so I’m sticking with my existing IPP. But I can’t wait to get my grubby little mitts on the Magic Keyboard. Any idea when it will be available for preorder?