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Fair enough. My point on the matter... was your expectations on upgrading. You passed up on the 3rd generation and now this 4th generation. As @rui no onna mention most users won't upgrade unless performance becomes a issue.

I was just curious on your position that's all.



Yes, I'll have agree with you on the bugginess of external drive support (USB-C) and Files App. I'm just hoping after a few tweaks that Apple makes the experience better. Because it's horrible right now. I'm having better results with external drive support on my Note10+ than my iPP.

I think on the hardware side Apple has met my expectations to a large extent, even with the 2018. The fact that the hardware improvements are small in their incremental change this time around in the 4th gen iPP is a testament to where the iPP sits in terms of its physical capabilities. Software is where things need to change. Things take longer on that side to happen though.

If anything, on the hardware side one thing that I wish they did on the new iPP would be to include a second USB-C port rather than having the additional port be on the much more expensive magic keyboard. Now I know that I’ve been saying that USB-C on the new iPPs hasn’t been a compelling enough reason for me to upgrade yet BUT when those software limitations do get addressed having an additional port would be beneficial to more than just those who want the full blown trackpad/keyboard. It’s a small wish though - in all likelihood the latest iPP isn’t a hard pass for me just yet. I need to see more from iPadOS though before I feel the urge to pull the trigger, and improved mouse/trackpad support is only part of what I was hoping to be improved.
 
I really don't think a 2nd C port is necessary when a cheap hub will let you expand that if needed. Everyone's use case and needs are different but a single, high bandwidth generic port is a great solution for the majority I would imagine.
 
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I really don't think a 2nd C port is necessary when a cheap hub will let you expand that if needed. Everyone's use case and needs are different but a single, high bandwidth generic port is a great solution for the majority I would imagine.

Is there even a chipset available supporting 2 USB-C ports? It's been a problem - why you don't see many hubs with two.
 
My wife and I got iPad 11 Pros about a month ago. We're happy with them, we will not be upgrading - we plan on keeping these for several years at least. We came from 10.5 Pros and ... these things fly. Even if I had had my iPad 11 Pro for a year+, I probably wouldn't update. This thing flies!
 
Is there even a chipset available supporting 2 USB-C ports? It's been a problem - why you don't see many hubs with two.

I was thinking more the hubs that offer various other ports as well as a single USB-C port for pass through or charging effectively leaving the C port free while still offering HDMI, SD, USB A ports, Ethernet etc.
 
I really don't think a 2nd C port is necessary when a cheap hub will let you expand that if needed. Everyone's use case and needs are different but a single, high bandwidth generic port is a great solution for the majority I would imagine.

Apple was probably thinking the same thing. Still for me I would much prefer the option of copying files across multiple external storage devices or using external storage while charging without the need for any additional adapter or significantly more expensive keyboard system. In all likelihood the thinking is that the majority of users who would benefit from the functionality would also want the keyboard and trackpad, thus the additional port in that new keyboard.
 
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The new IPad has some cool features and naturally I am attracted to them. My 2018 11 and 12.9 tablets are still working great and I see no urgency to change. Actually, I have been more satisfied with the 2018 than any previous models (and I've owned practically all of them). Still wish I had sprung for the 1TB model on my 11 inch though.
 
The new IPad has some cool features and naturally I am attracted to them. My 2018 11 and 12.9 tablets are still working great and I see no urgency to change. Actually, I have been more satisfied with the 2018 than any previous models (and I've owned practically all of them). Still wish I had sprung for the 1TB model on my 11 inch though.
May I ask , are both the 11 and 12.9 yours and if so what Are your main use for each iPad?
 
Still on a 9.7 IPP but looking hard @ buying a 2018 11" refurb, anyone think the prices will get any lower going forward?

I think the current refurb pricing is a decent reduction, as of the 2020 model announcement. When I was originally shopping a refurb 12.9 2018, they were $849, so I scored a sweet deal the first of Jan 2020 on a "NIB" one for $700 off Swappa, but now I'm seeing Apple is doing 2018 refurbs for $699, so seems like a killer deal, ~23% discount off of an indicated MSRP of $899 (even though they're not showing as available new).

Oh yeah, just checked the 11" Pro 2018, $549, that's 22% off of the new list of $699, but vs. a 2020 model, that's a ~32% discount, pretty nice. It also means 2018 11" iPP + Magic Keyboard/TP = ~$907 in my neck of the woods :)
 
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Bending, white spots, light bleeding, touchscreen freezing - Apple never mentioned whether they fixed any of those problems on new iPads. So no, not upgrading. The lottery to get a decently working device still seems too pricey.
 
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Bending, white spots, light bleeding, touchscreen freezing - Apple never mentioned whether they fixed any of those problems on new iPads. So no, not upgrading. The lottery to get a decently working device still seems too pricey.
I've heard about a couple touch-screen issues and bends, but none of the others on the new iPad Pros (3rd gen)
I will not be upgrading my 2018 iPad Pro for this years model as it still pretty fast and not worth it.
Early benchmarks even show the iPad Pro 2020 is 1% faster in CPU, but the RAM has issues, so I am in the same boat as you (iPad Pro 3 is awesome!)
 
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I am also a Speech-Language Pathologist who travels with my iPad Pro daily with the Smart Keyboard case, I also have no desire to upgrade right away since they will not have a keyboard case at launch. This is essential for my work everyday to have the keyboard case.

Sticking with my 11” Pro 256GB cellular. I’m perfectly happy with it and I never use the camera anyway. RAM is also not an issue whatsoever in my case.
 
I am not upgrading my 12.9"... Rather I am seriously considering getting an 11" as an addition. I would like to have one of two setups for travel

1) 12.9 Inch iPad alone
2) Macbook + 11 Inch iPad

I do plan to try out the new keyboard for the 12.9."
 
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