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NJRonbo

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Looking at the specs for the Hagibis stand, its filter size is 0.175mm, whereas the Spigen has a filter size of 0.77mm, which is a big difference. The Hagibis also accommodates both the Studio and Mini. I’d be tempted to try the newer stand myself. What does everyone else think?

Part of me is all for you buying the stand and being a guinea pig for the rest of us. To date, neither Amazon UK nor US has reviews for this item. You would be a groundbreaker in being among the first to review it.

The other part of me feels that you should go with a product that has already received positive reviews. Of course, I mean the Spigen stand. I don't think the difference in filter size is anything to be concerned about. The Spigen stand offers more than adequate protection despite the fact that the STUDIO doesn't sit 100% flush on it (which is such a minor issue).

I think either product will work well. If you have no problem taking a risk and ordering something unknown, then go ahead and get the Hagibis stand. If you want to invest in a product that most all of us think works well for the purpose, go with the Spigen. In either case, Amazon is very return-friendly.


EDIT: One More Thing I Realized: The Spigen has a removable filter that you can wash. I don't think the Hagibis has this -- at least not from the product video I just watched. For me, that would put me in favor of the Spigen.
 
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transmaster

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No the Hagibis filter stand does not have a removable filter, but the whole stand can be washed.

I am just going the wait I have been scanning this topic and I think in the coming months we are going to see a bunch of filter stands being offered. There are a couple that are printable on a 3D printer that accommodates a standard HEPA filter size. In the meantime the Spigen doing what it can do.
 

transmaster

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This a piece of automotive air pre-filter foam. This pre-filter stuff would keep out anything that might clog things up. If you put this stuff up to your mouth and breath in through it you will not feel and resistance. If the Spigen was a little higher up you could cut out a piece of this stuff and fit it in the base.
 

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Tom66

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Thanks for the heads-up

I don't think it looks as nice as the Spigen

Also, doing a U.S. conversion, it's more expensive than the Spigen.
Looking at the specs for the Hagibis stand, its filter is 0.175mm, whereas the Spigen has a filter size of 0.77mm, which is a big difference. It would be interesting to know if this affects air flow.
 

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This pre-filter foam is made in a bunch of different filtering sizes. it would be very easy to fit a piece in the bottom of the Spigen stand.
 

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Kim Larni

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I have been looking for different alternatives to keep the Studio clean of dust.
Decided to keep using DustEnd 3 filter. It seems to work very fine. From one roll you might get the needed filter material for a long time. Even if you clean the filter it will get clogged at some point. I use a vacuum cleaner to clean the dust, as I have done since my first Mac SE. Just make sure the computer is connected to a grounded poweroutlet, in case of static discharge. Here is my final solution, made the base from plywood and balsa. Have some rubber stickers under the base to keep it on place. A cheap and working solution.
 

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I have been looking for different alternatives to keep the Studio clean of dust.
Decided to keep using DustEnd 3 filter. It seems to work very fine. From one roll you might get the needed filter material for a long time. Even if you clean the filter it will get clogged at some point. I use a vacuum cleaner to clean the dust, as I have done since my first Mac SE. Just make sure the computer is connected to a grounded poweroutlet, in case of static discharge. Here is my final solution, made the base from plywood and balsa. Have some rubber stickers under the base to keep it on place. A cheap and working solution.
Thanks for reminding me of DustEnd filtering material. I have used this in past computer systems. The last Corsair Full tower I used had filters already built into it, just ordered a roll from Amazon.
 
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transmaster

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This looks like a useful addition to a Mac Mini, Mac Studio. A cooling rack. There is plenty of room for a Spigen stand sitting on a cut out piece of the DustEnd filter material and there would be plenty of air circulation.
 

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Tom66

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Has anyone tried using an air purifier in the same room as the Mac Studio to prevent dust intake?
 

Luis Glez

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Does the Spigen stand built-in filter actually prevent, or at least minimize, dust ingestion? I'm thinking about buying one, but right now it's pretty expensive here in Europe (50 eur on Amazon), and I'm not sure it'll be worth it.

I clean my working environment regularly, but still, every time I wipe the air-intake grill on the bottom with a soft cloth I can see a small layer of very fine dust attached to it.
 
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Tom66

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Does the Spigen stand built-in filter actually prevent, or at least minimize, dust ingestion? I'm thinking about buying one, but right now it's pretty expensive here in Europe (50 eur on Amazon), and I'm not sure it'll be worth it.

I clean my working environment regularly, but still, every time I wipe the air-intake grill on the bottom with a soft cloth I can see a small layer of very fine dust attached to it.
I’m still testing my Spigen stand, so I’ll report back, but this alternative option from Hagibis has a much finer filter…

 
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transmaster

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I honestly don't know. If you stop and think about it we all are early adopters of the Mac Studio, and so many of us have the Spigen stand so the jury is still out on the dust issue. I have discussed this with Apple support and they told me it should not be a problem. But if after a few years you start to detect a problem just send it to Apple, or take it to an Apple store and they will take care of it for you.

I have a roll of the DustEnd filtering material suggested above. The material is thin and I think what I am going to try is to cut a section to fit between the Spigen stand and the Mac Studio cut loose enough it so is allows the Studio push in down around it's base it will also act like a perimeter gasket which would fix the poor fit some people are reporting with this stand.

One this I suspect is going to happen in the near future is a more and better filter stand choices.
 
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In the Amatuer radio world we build Farrady cages. These are used to shield sensitive radios and antique transmitters. With receiver it helps shield the from what we call QRM, man made interference. With vintage transmitters to prevent off frequency emissions escaping. We make these cages out of copper of bronze screen mesh. This mesh is made fine enough to make a great washable filter. you could easily fabricate a steampunk type of stand to set the studio into. This material soldiers very easily and you would make a cool looking copper or bronze frame to set the Studio into.
 

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Shazaam!

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I suspect a FARADAY cage material being used as a filter would block both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signals to/from the Studio's antennas.
Air conditioners use a non-conductive fine plastic mesh material that is a possibility, but clog quickly. Open cell foam is the best solution for filtering small particles and for holding a substantial amount of air-borne debris thereby extending cleaning intervals.
 

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Does the Spigen stand built-in filter actually prevent, or at least minimize, dust ingestion? I'm thinking about buying one, but right now it's pretty expensive here in Europe (50 eur on Amazon), and I'm not sure it'll be worth it.

I clean my working environment regularly, but still, every time I wipe the air-intake grill on the bottom with a soft cloth I can see a small layer of very fine dust attached to it.

In addition to the Spigen I have my Max on a perforated riser. Checked both the Max and Spigen and no dust had been collected but on the riser there was a very fine layer of room dust particles so I am inclined to think that it works.
 

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transmaster

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I suspect a FARADAY cage material being used as a filter would block both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signals to/from the Studio's antennas.
Air conditioners use a non-conductive fine plastic mesh material that is a possibility, but clog quickly. Open cell foam is the best solution for filtering small particles and for holding a substantial amount of air-borne debris thereby extending cleaning intervals.
It would not, the Mac Studio would fit on what I am thinking of like the Spigen stand so the main part of the Studio would be out in the open.
 

Shazaam!

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In addition to the Spigen I have my Max on a perforated riser. Checked both the Max and Spigen and no dust had been collected but on the riser there was a very fine layer of room dust particles so I am inclined to think that it works.
You can elevate the Studio one inch or 50 inches — it has no effect on the amount of airborne dust particles ingested by the intake fans.
 

transmaster

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Tried to watch a couple of the Mac Studio tear downs but the presenters were totally obnoxious but at least I got to see the location of the 3 antennas. A interesting detail discussed on the one of the Apple forums is they talk about the performance being improved if you turn the Studio upside down or set it on its side to better position these antennas. I am a ham radio operator this idea is really bogus. The Spigen stand raises the 3 antennas perhaps 1/2 and inch considering the frequencies we are talking about that is more then enough to get any improvement that might be had, which is not going to be much.

Here you can see the 3 antennas. top right, bottom sides left and right.
 

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