HTC 10

[epicrayban]

Is the HTC 10 overpriced?

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-10-overpriced-686242/


"So is the HTC 10 overpriced? Well… kind of, actually. I mean, you are definitely paying for a premium device here, and we doubt anybody will argue otherwise. Still, if it’s going to go toe-to-toe with the water-resistant powerhouse that is the S7, the modular innovation of the LG G5, and the bold (if probably ill-fated) arrival of the BlackBerry Priv, the HTC 10 should have either chopped the price or brought something truly original to the table."

I also agree with their point about the Nexus 6P:

"Problems really arise when you start comparing the HTC 10 to something like the much-lauded Nexus 6P, which runs for $200 less. Both devices rock 12MP cameras, but the HTC 10’s selfie snapper is only 5MP while the 6P is rocking 8. The 6P has a slightly heftier battery, but where it really outclasses the HTC 10 in some people’s opinion is its massive 5.7 inch AMOLED display. It’s true the Nexus device runs an older processor; the HTC 10 is powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 while the Nexus 6P sports a Snapdragon 810. RAM is the kicker as well, as the 6P only runs 3GB compared to the HTC flagship’s 4. Nevertheless, many fans are willing to accept these variances for the $200 price drop. The key difference here is that users feel like they’re getting a lot of bang for their buck with the Nexus. With the HTC 10… that sentiment just isn’t there."

 

[Surf Donkey]

^^^ Europeans and Canadians are just laughing (or crying) at this.

They are missing major points on the 6P there. Lack of OIS, not great speakers (even if they are front facing), terrible DAC, fire sale (literally) processor, low binned panels that have issues, bending issues etc. Assuming HTC escapes these with premium parts and decent QC, it is will worth the premium (IMHO).

And the G5 is innovative sure, but it already cancelled the DAC module. So you get a camera. Great. Innovative maybe, but not selling, so DOA innovation. And the Priv?

The only thing it doesn't have compared to the Galaxy S7 that we have seen so far is waterproofing. But there are many other advantages (amazing audio, clean OS, great update record, warranty, no carrier bloat, etc). And based on what I have seen, this device has the attention of many Nexus users. So I disagree with their sentiments.

**** is just expensive to make these days, or companies are price gouging. Honestly not sure which, perhaps a combination of both. Hell, Amazon released a $300 E-READER today! That is crazy.

Interesting read, thanks for sharing.

 

[gotluck]

yea I really feel for european and canadian pricing, but I am very glad to see a premium nonphablet that checks all the android nerd boxes. The USA price is okay in my book, especially with the $100 discount.

You can always wait and buy it later for less too. This is not an iphone, there will be good sales

 

[Surf Donkey]

And honestly, the whole price thing is moot until they are sold in stores. If HTC isn't known as everyone says, the average Joe isn't going compare prices shopping at HTC.com for a phone. Who knows what the prices will be across the board by the time this hits the box stores.

So what is HTC really trying to do with this phone in this initial phase? Prove they can outsell Apple and Samsung? Or just make a really great flagship to get back some of their brand status? I am guessing the approach here is to appeal to the tech crowd to start spreading the word that they are back.

 

[spriter]

Google ripping off UK customers is the reason I always overlooked the 6P.

Seems like the 10 is getting good reviews with all concluding that it's a solid phone which ticks a lot of boxes. Interestingly many suggest it lacks something special (or gimmicky) depending on your view of tapered screen edges, modular accessories, or dual rear cameras.

As much as my next Android was going to be the S7 or S7e, that my Note 5 is still waiting for MM is telling me to look elsewhere.

Maybe a P9, 10, or G5 is where my cash should be going after all.

At least this glut of phones should make for better prices.

 

[nj-morris]

Google ripping off UK customers is the reason I always overlooked the 6P.

Agreed. They did it right with the Nexus 6 though. Cost £479 where it cost $649 in the States. But why they used the same $479 price tag when the 6P cost $499 in the US, I'll never know.

 

[AliMacs]

Why would anyone who is rational compare ANY HUAWEI piece of garbage to HTC? Chinese state owned dung company vs Taiwan manufacturer who gives a ***** about their products. Everything in the HTC 10 is better than the 6P - and best of all it doesn't run stock android WHICH IS A BLESSING. You want features in a phone and you don't get jack with vanilla android. Just use the stock camera app on the 6P and compare it with even an S6/G4 and you will see how bad it sucks. Features is what sets these smartphones apart and there is nothing on that 6P except for build quality which is even sucks more qualifies it to be compared to this new HTC 10.

Price wise they are similar with an Extra $100 discount, $599 isn't too bad considering it has expandable microSD.

If you want a problem phone with bugs and glitches and crap support, go buy a moto X pure, 5X, 6P, device. If you want a cheap phone, just go for the 5X - it's cheap alright both cost and build. You guys want high end phone for cheap you gonna have to settle for chinese made crap. That or the Oneplus.

 

[epicrayban]

I really like HTC's implementation of the home button. I hope Apple and Samsung follow suit. No more physical home buttons, please.

 

[Fernandez21]

Anyone else bothered by the home button not being centered between the screen edge and bottom edge? That's been bothering me in every video I see.

Other than that, the black one looks very sleek, my favorite.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Anyone else bothered by the home button not being centered between the screen edge and bottom edge? That's been bothering me in every video I see.

Other than that, the black one looks very sleek, my favorite.

Looks a bit strange, but maybe it is practical? Less accidental screen presses?

 

[epicrayban]

Anyone else bothered by the home button not being centered between the screen edge and bottom edge? That's been bothering me in every video I see.

Other than that, the black one looks very sleek, my favorite.

Agreed. Noticed that too.

 

[spriter]

Anyone else bothered by the home button not being centered between the screen edge and bottom edge? That's been bothering me in every video I see.

Other than that, the black one looks very sleek, my favorite.

Yep on both counts. The chin looks like something is missing (the logo!). Black looks like the one to go for.

Some camera comparisons vs S7:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/engadgetchinese/sets/72157666992287746/with/26292503672/

 

[Sensamic]

I really like HTC's implementation of the home button. I hope Apple and Samsung follow suit. No more physical home buttons, please.

Amen!!

 

[nj-morris]

Why would anyone who is rational compare ANY HUAWEI piece of garbage to HTC? Chinese state owned dung company vs Taiwan manufacturer who gives a ***** about their products. Everything in the HTC 10 is better than the 6P - and best of all it doesn't run stock android WHICH IS A BLESSING. You want features in a phone and you don't get jack with vanilla android. Just use the stock camera app on the 6P and compare it with even an S6/G4 and you will see how bad it sucks. Features is what sets these smartphones apart and there is nothing on that 6P except for build quality which is even sucks more qualifies it to be compared to this new HTC 10.

Price wise they are similar with an Extra $100 discount, $599 isn't too bad considering it has expandable microSD.

If you want a problem phone with bugs and glitches and crap support, go buy a moto X pure, 5X, 6P, device. If you want a cheap phone, just go for the 5X - it's cheap alright both cost and build. You guys want high end phone for cheap you gonna have to settle for chinese made crap. That or the Oneplus.

1. Ever heard of a little thing called opinion?
2. A lot of people prefer simplicity and consistency over features.
3. You have absolutely no evidence behind the whole 'glitches and crap support' statement, plus many others. You're just finding excuses to bash phones just because they're affordable.

There are PLENTY of reasons to buy a 6P. Just because you may not like it for whatever reason, don't just get angry at other people for liking it and not even stating a valid reason. You aren't doing anybody any favours, so just back off.

 

[AppleRobert]

1. Ever heard of a little thing called opinion?
2. A lot of people prefer simplicity and consistency over features.
3. You have absolutely no evidence behind the whole 'glitches and crap support' statement, plus many others. You're just finding excuses to bash phones just because they're affordable.

There are PLENTY of reasons to buy a 6P. Just because you may not like it for whatever reason, don't just get angry at other people for liking it and not even stating a valid reason. You aren't doing anybody any favours, so just back off.

His post did not even warrant a response which is why I didn't.

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Tons of reviews are dropping now for the 10.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Yup, embargo lifted. I like reading the somewhat negatives ones first:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/14/11429858/htc-10-review

So no gimmicks, bloatware, same aesthetics = boring. OK, fair enough. Guess I'll be expecting the same when they review the next iPhone.... no wait, that will be revolutionary. Thanks Verge! Spectacular as always.

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Jon Rettinger (TechnoBuffalo) raved about the 10.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Jon Rettinger (TechnoBuffalo) raved about the 10.

Arstechnica calling it the best flagship this year.... taking everything Verge sees as "meh" as a positive.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/htc-10-review-htc-builds-the-best-android-flagship-of-2016/

The HTC 10 is a refreshing phone that manages to be great without any nonsense or gimmicks. Compared to the Galaxy S7, you're getting a better body, better software, louder speakers, more capable expandable storage, USB Type C, and (most of the time) a better camera. Force me to buy a phone that isn't a Nexus device and I know what I'm picking up.

 

[spinedoc77]

Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/

They say battery life isn't great, which is surprising seeing how chunky/thick it is. It is a pretty meh phone, it has nice specs and unlocked is very nice, but nothing exciting about it. Yeah I know it's a phone, I sound ridiculous trying to make a phone exciting. But that's what something like the S7 edge has done, and it seems consumers either want something very cheap, or they are willing to pay for something novel, the M10 is neither. That's not a bad thing, I'm sure it will be a very solid phone. It's pricing may hamstring it though, with nothing novel to offer I think people might prefer the novelty of something like the S7 which is cheaper and IMO much nicer looking.

PS I'm a big HTC fan, I have a VIVE on preorder.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/14/htc-10-review/

They say battery life isn't great, which is surprising seeing how chunky/thick it is. It is a pretty meh phone, it has nice specs and unlocked is very nice, but nothing exciting about it. Yeah I know it's a phone, I sound ridiculous trying to make a phone exciting. But that's what something like the S7 edge has done, and it seems consumers either want something very cheap, or they are willing to pay for something novel, the M10 is neither. That's not a bad thing, I'm sure it will be a very solid phone.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10252/htc-10-battery-storage-results

Anandtech is putting it pretty on par with the S7

Whatever the case, overall battery life between the Galaxy S7 and HTC 10 are going to be similar, although how similar is going to be workload dependent and the bin of the SoC you end up getting. If your workload is almost purely display-bound, the Galaxy S7 seems to come out on top. If your usage is more mixed and primarily stresses the CPU like our 2016 web browsing test, the HTC 10 will edge out the Galaxy S7 and iPhone 6s by a nose. If you intend on running power viruses on your phone, it's likely that the bin of your SoC will matter more than anything else but runtime on both devices will be similar. Of course, due to the aluminum unibody limiting maximum skin temperatures the HTC 10 will probably start to throttle sooner but steady state performance should be similar. If you want a clear upgrade in battery life, basically the only choice at this time seems to be to go to a larger device like the Galaxy S7 edge.

 

[gotluck]

A year from now the HTC will be a better phone for sure too

 

[AppleRobert]

As far as pricing goes with the M10, what did you figure it would be considering what the A9 went for at release with its specs and features?

HTC better call on the big guy (lotsa luck) cause that little bit of luck guy ain't going to help them.

 

[epicrayban]

Reviews are in. Positive.

Wow, go HTC. I really think this is great. Between HTC and Samsung, there are now two very good, very viable handset offerings that both have their own counter strengths to each other.

Can't wait to hear feedback here.

 

[jamezr]

A year from now the HTC will be a better phone for sure too

Heck I am excited for the Nexus phones coming later in the fall. if HTC can produce a nice phone like the 10 they will do great with the Nexus as well.