Phones HTC “Hima” Flagship Device Rumored to Sport Snapdragon 810, 5-Inch FHD Display, 20.7M

[jamezr]

So essentially they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

But regardless of that ... My point was going back to Snapdragon 810 - it doesn't appear - contrary to the rumours and speculation - have an overheating issue. Adds weight to the argument that there does seem to be some indirect badmouthing campaign to try and discredit it.

So if Samsung or Apple had a flagship phone announcement and their new phone had pre release buggy software that led to bad reviews........would everyone be giving them a pass? I don't think so.
I don't think there is a conspiracy to discredit HTC or Qualcomm.
If HTC let tech bloggers and reviewers get a hold of their new flagship phone with buggy pre release software on it.....then they only have themselves to blame.

I wonder if this is the reason for the change in CEO?
Peter Chou steps down as HTC CEO, Chairwoman Cher Wang to take over

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-replaces-ceo-peter-chou-chairwoman-cher-wang

 

[MRU]

So if Samsung or Apple had a flagship phone announcement and their new phone had pre release buggy software that led to bad reviews........would everyone be giving them a pass? I don't think so.
I don't think there is a conspiracy to discredit HTC or Qualcomm.
If HTC let tech bloggers and reviewers get a hold of their new flagship phone with buggy pre release software on it.....then they only have themselves to blame.

I wonder if this is the reason for the change in CEO?
Peter Chou steps down as HTC CEO, Chairwoman Cher Wang to take over

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-replaces-ceo-peter-chou-chairwoman-cher-wang

Samsung & Apple in fairness have the muscle power to ask for NDA's on certain aspects of preview software. HTC I imagine don't.

But like I say I'm not looking at this as a HTC story, I think they're quite simply casualty of themselves, but more on why there has been a slew of rumours, speculation and accusations at Qualcomms Snapdragon 810 and yet when you look into actual evidence, there appears to be none to substantiate any of the rumours & accusations.

That's the interesting part of this whole story, not HTC who seem quite capable of hurting themselves without the need for speculation.

 

[jamezr]

Samsung & Apple in fairness have the muscle power to ask for NDA's on certain aspects of preview software. HTC I imagine don't.

But like I say I'm not looking at this as a HTC story, I think they're quite simply casualty of themselves, but more on why there has been a slew of rumours, speculation and accusations at Qualcomms Snapdragon 810 and yet when you look into actual evidence, there appears to be none to substantiate any of the rumours & accusations.

That's the interesting part of this whole story, not HTC who seem quite capable of hurting themselves without the need for speculation.

In all fairness I think all OEMs have people sign NDAs. They also know if they break the NDA they will not get another handset to review from that company.
That is the biggest deterrent tech bloggers and reviewers are afraid of. Can't review phones if OEMs deem you not trustworthy. Becaus ethye will not send you anything to review.

There are a not of reviews out there about the performance and overheating and camera issues on the M9. They can't all blame it on pre release software on the review handsets. Then if that is true who is to blame for that? Can't blame the reviewers they are just posting their experiences.
It looks like HTC made a change at CEO just for this reason.

Whether or not you can blame all the bad reviews for the camera and overheating and performance on pre release software is something that will play out in a few weeks.

Here is a Carphone review on the camera. Comparing it to the Xperia Z3

http://lowdown.carphonewarehouse.com/tips-reviews/htc-one-m9-vs-sony-xperia-z3/


Another review on the overheating issue. They are going to retest their test unit since a OTA is in the works.

http://www.chip.de/artikel/HTC-One-M9-Handy-Test_77280056.html

 

[Tig Bitties]

HTC CEO Peter Chou steps down
http://phandroid.com/2015/03/20/htc-peter-chou-resigns/

Sad to see this happen to HTC, the little guy. I owned the One M8 last year, and it was one of, if not the best Android phone of 2014 IMO. Just fantastic build quality, best for Android in 2014. And pretty great battery life for a non phablet sized phone. And Sense 6 ran smooth as butter on it, and the GPE version was also an amazing smartphone.

I was expecting a really banging device in the One M9, but what HTC is releasing is not what I was expecting, and sucks the Snapdragon 810 is a poor processor, and HTC really has no other options to choose another cpu.

Maybe HTC didn't have the funds and backing to create an all new stellar One phone ? Were they handcuffed financially, and could only make a minor One M8 part 2 ?

I see the One M9 being a disaster sales wise for HTC in the months ahead. Sorry to say, but the public will be attracted to the new metal Galaxy S6 over the One M9, and the advertising blitz Samsung can afford to do, will make HTC easily forgotten by the public.

Will we even see an HTC One M10 next year, after the beating coming this year for them ?

 

[epicrayban]

Sad to see this happen to HTC, the little guy. I owned the One M8 last year, and it was one of, if not the best Android phone of 2014 IMO. Just fantastic build quality, best for Android in 2014. And pretty great battery life for a non phablet sized phone. And Sense 6 ran smooth as butter on it, and the GPE version was also an amazing smartphone.

I was expecting a really banging device in the One M9, but what HTC is releasing is not what I was expecting, and sucks the Snapdragon 810 is a poor processor, and HTC really has no other options to choose another cpu.

Maybe HTC didn't have the funds and backing to create an all new stellar One phone ? Were they handcuffed financially, and could only make a minor One M8 part 2 ?

I see the One M9 being a disaster sales wise for HTC in the months ahead. Sorry to say, but the public will be attracted to the new metal Galaxy S6 over the One M9, and the advertising blitz Samsung can afford to do, will make HTC easily forgotten by the public.

Will we even see an HTC One M10 next year, after the beating coming this year for them ?

What money they've spent on their current ad campaign isn't exactly being put to good use either. They're just weird.

HTC did many things right this year with the m9 but also a few things wrong. And I think because they're being scrutinized, all their missteps are magnified. Really unfortunate but you almost have no one else to blame but HTC themselves. I guess except for those sexy renders that set our expectations too high. But the general public probably never saw those renders.

 

[jamezr]

What money they've spent on their current ad campaign isn't exactly being put to good use either. They're just weird.

HTC did many things right this year with the m9 but also a few things wrong. And I think because they're being scrutinized, all their missteps are magnified. Really unfortunate but you almost have no one else to blame but HTC themselves. I guess except for those sexy renders that set our expectations too high. But the general public probably never saw those renders.

Great points......their media campaign leaves a lot to be desired. They need to fire their AD company and start fresh with a different approach.

 

[MRU]

Great points......their media campaign leaves a lot to be desired. They need to fire their AD company and start fresh with a different approach.

Their TV media adds have always been dodgy weird quality.

 

[gotluck]

Yea I feel like their champions league sponsorship is the most effective thing they've done ad-wise

 

[epicrayban]

The problem with what HTC is doing in terms of that "singular" design for their One line is that they are not Apple.

Sony has done this, and their sales have suffered greatly. Only Apple, with their nearly invincible branding, can get away with subtle-to-no-redesigns year by year.

HTC cannot.

Sony cannot.

Samsung, sort of can, but they shouldn't risk it. And because they went all out this year with their redesign, the M9 is being totally eclipsed.

I know it's been said a billion times already in this thread, but HTC should have released an M9 that looked closer to those early sexy renders. It's sort of unfortunate those renders came out (based on a typically reliable leaker, Evleaks, right?) to set us up for disappointment, but at the same time, that's what HTC should have done.

 

[epicrayban]

Woah: HTC Appoints Cher Wang As Its New CEO, Peter Chou Stays On As Head of HTC Future Development Lab


http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ays-on-as-head-of-htc-future-development-lab/

 

[spriter]

I agree with the comments about HTC being potentially whitewashed this year. As someone who wanted to buy the M9, I've prey much lost interest. Whilst it's obviously a decent phone, against the S6 and S6E, it's facing an uphill struggle.

Even I'm wowed by the S6E and I'm far more interested in that as opposed to something that looks too much like last year's phone.

First impressions last and the S6E has a killer look - it'll make people pick it up which is a big factor.

I can only imagine what the average buyer will think when the Samsung marketing machine kicks in and they've got front and centre store presence. Unfortunately the M9 might well be a sideshow at best.

 

[Sensamic]

If the M9 turns out to be a failure in sales I don't see HTC still in the business next year.

No M10 or any phone for that matter if they don't sell well this year.

But then I think Nokia isn't doing that great anymore and they are still making phones I think... Aren't they?

 

[AppleRobert]

A guarantee? Maybe this has already been posted but just in case it hasn't:

http://www.cnet.com/news/htc-we-will-replace-your-one-m9-no-questions-within-first-year/

 

[petvas]

If the M9 turns out to be a failure in sales I don't see HTC still in the business next year.

No M10 or any phone for that matter if they don't sell well this year.

But then I think Nokia isn't doing that great anymore and they are still making phones I think... Aren't they?

It might be a failure between geeks, but I think its sales won't be that different from the M8. I would suggest, let's wait and see what happens. I certainly do not want to see HTC going out of business. I love the design of the One series and to be honest, I prefer it to the iPhone's design.

 

[jamezr]

It might be a failure between geeks, but I think its sales won't be that different from the M8. I would suggest, let's wait and see what happens. I certainly do not want to see HTC going out of business. I love the design of the One series and to be honest, I prefer it to the iPhone's design.

agree with this..... I hope HTC does well. I love their designs. I think as a company they had made some bad decisions. Hopefully with the new CEO they will stop this bad decision trend. I really want them to succeed. I also think some of the renders of the M9 and M9 Plus really hurt them. When the M9 was finally revealed it did not live up to the expectations the false renders set them up for.

 

[2298754]

Samsung & Apple in fairness have the muscle power to ask for NDA's on certain aspects of preview software. HTC I imagine don't.

MRU brings up a very valid point. Apple and Samsung are powerful enough, that all of these websites/blogs/reviewers don't want to get "blacklisted" by blogging about pre-release software.

Remember when Gizmodo bought the iPhone4 from the bar? I'm pretty sure they're still banned from attending launch events and getting review units.

 

[nviz22]

If this HTC One M9+ is actually a model, this is the model the company should've released. As unnecessary as the QHD screens are, that's the market standard for android. If they fail to meet it, then they ought to take a hit in sales, simple as that.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Would like to see some real reviews already. Wanna see battery life results. Last years M8 was pretty good on battery life for a non phablet sized phone.

With the bigger battery and more efficient hardware I'm hoping the M9 is better

 

[Cnasty]

Would like to see some real reviews already. Wanna see battery life results. Last years M8 was pretty good on battery life for a non phablet sized phone.

With the bigger battery and more efficient hardware I'm hoping the M9 is better

TechnoBuffalo
phoneArena
PocketNow

All have their reviews out on YouTube. I usually peruse those but mkhbd and DetroitBorg are my favs

 

[Sensamic]

Engadget review also available now. Calls it a modest step forward.

 

[epicrayban]

Verge review also up. Their review of the camera = ouch.

"Many instances worse than the m8..."

HTC is in serious trouble this year...

 

[spinedoc77]

But then I think Nokia isn't doing that great anymore and they are still making phones I think... Aren't they?

Nokia got eaten up by Microsoft. While they make great phones, I personally find them very ugly and clunky. I think Samsung is the poster child of how consumers putting aesthetics over function hurt them badly.

 

[epicrayban]

Multiple reviews reflecting the same thing about the inconsistent and poor camera experience (again).

So much for pre release software being the excuse...

HTC lost this battle before it even began and now these reviews are the proverbial nail in the coffin.

 

[Sensamic]

So what's the point in buying this phone if the camera is basically the same as the M8 quality wise (or slightly worse/better)?

I've seen the M8 second hand for 300€, while the M9 will start at 649€ or 749€, don't remember which.

HTC are shooting themselves in the foot with that kind of pricing again with a phone that has the same design, slightly better internals and the same camera quality overall.

Terrible idea HTC.

 

[nviz22]

TechnoBuffalo
phoneArena
PocketNow

All have their reviews out on YouTube. I usually peruse those but mkhbd and DetroitBorg are my favs

Mkhbd and DetroitBorg are my favorites as well. Both are as objective as you can be.