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MRU

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http://phandroid.com/2015/03/17/htc-one-m9-uh-oh-accidental-damage-insurace/

So this is HTC's new announcement for tomorrow. I like it if modifies the existing warranty. Talk about shaking up the process?
That is an amazing warranty service above and beyond what anyone else is offering. However it's a risky strategy as I'm sure it's not cheap to offer that level of service, undoubtedly they have some serious underwriters working on it for what is likely a certain cost per device that has to be covered in the retail sale price.
 

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What purpose did that post serve here in this thread ?

It's called advertising for Samsung and bashing HTC.

I think people generally like to overreact. Geeks that read such forums have already buried the M9, just because of the first bad impressions of the camera, as presented by many who tested the device briefly in Barcelona.
I think that is the only mistake HTC made. They should never let journalists play with the device so such a long time or they should tell them not to test the camera, as the software is going to get serious updates.
Apart from that I don't see any reason to feel bad about the M9.
Especially about the design, which is still the best in the industry. If you are used to getting iPhones every year, then you should understand what HTC is trying to achieve here. They want to be recognized as a brand and didn't want to drastically change the design of the One.
I love its design and see no reason for a change.

I have already preordered the M9 and I don't think I will have any issues at all with it when it comes out.
 
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HTC “Hima” Flagship Device Rumored to Sport Snapdragon 810, 5-Inch FHD Displa...

It's called advertising for Samsung and bashing HTC.


Yeah I'm afraid I will have to add him to my ignore list as his posts are getting more and more fanatical which was bad enough on the S6 threads but now it's verging on just simply trolling other threads too.

Instead of getting wound up by the incessant nonsense - it's far easier just to block their content full stop as I can't see it waning anytime soon (it's getting more fanatical everyday).
 

MRU

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Anyone getting the M9 that owns the Note 4?


I'll consider it if and when it's released here. I'm more interested in the S6 Edge currently but if that's too overpriced and if I get a good deal on an M9 (like I did M8 last year buying one brand new a week after launch for €400) then I will consider getting a gunmetal one.

Not really interested in the standard S6, so yeah my next purchase will either be an emerald green S6 edge (first choice) or an M9 (if get a good deal).
 

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I'll consider it if and when it's released here. I'm more interested in the S6 Edge currently but if that's too overpriced and if I get a good deal on an M9 (like I did M8 last year buying one brand new a week after launch for €400) then I will consider getting a gunmetal one.

Not really interested in the standard S6, so yeah my next purchase will either be an emerald green S6 edge (first choice) or an M9 (if get a good deal).

MRU, you know the idea for pricing for the phones in Europe and North America? I am having trouble finding the price since I want to sell my Note 4 for max money possible, but waiting for reviews might be key. I mean I think I saw the M9 starting $649 and $799 for the Edge somewhere in the past two weeks.
 

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I'll consider it if and when it's released here. I'm more interested in the S6 Edge currently but if that's too overpriced and if I get a good deal on an M9 (like I did M8 last year buying one brand new a week after launch for €400) then I will consider getting a gunmetal one.

Not really interested in the standard S6, so yeah my next purchase will either be an emerald green S6 edge (first choice) or an M9 (if get a good deal).
Will you keep your Note 4 and 6+ then?
 

MRU

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Will you keep your Note 4 and 6+ then?
No, I'll sell the Note 4 but will keep the Motorola X 2014 and the 6+ :)

I'll do that whether it's an Edge or M9 that I get.

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MRU, you know the idea for pricing for the phones in Europe and North America? I am having trouble finding the price since I want to sell my Note 4 for max money possible, but waiting for reviews might be key. I mean I think I saw the M9 starting $649 and $799 for the Edge somewhere in the past two weeks.
Not sure about USA pricing.

Here what happens everytime there is a new device release is a wave of people buy devices subsidised on their bill pay plans and then sell it off sealed for a price between the retail and subsidised pricing. You can usually find good deals for new sealed devices here.

I imagine retail price here will be around €549-599 with contract pricing from €99-250. So I fully expect to see ones on sale sealed for 450-500 euro.
 

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HTC went back to their crap battery life they are infamous for. Hold onto to your M8.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/battery-life-might-big-problem-htc-one-m9-182103746.html
As Tweakers reports, the HTC One M9 might actually offer shorter battery life than its predecessor. That’s despite the fact that the M9 has a 2,840 mAh battery that’s even bigger than the 2,600 mAh battery found in the M8.

The publication reveals the HTC One M9 scored lower than the HTC One M8 in both Internet browsing and video tests. In web browsing tests, the HTC One M8 lasted for seven hours and 10 minutes of continuous use, while the HTC One M9 died after 5 hours and 30 minutes. When it comes to video playback, the HTC One M8 lasted for 9 hours and 32 minutes, while the HTC One M9 only managed 6 hours and 8 minutes of life.

http://tweakers.net/reviews/3921/6/htc-one-m9-waar-zijn-de-verbeteringen-accuduur-wisselvallig.html

For comparison sake -
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Personally, I never got 5+ hr SOT for Wi-Fi browsing. Maybe because I got the AT&T model which seems to be worse than others. Always under 5 hrs even if i browsed using Opera Mini and if I kept the brightness low. The most I got was about 9 hrs SOT just by reading. In the beginning, it ranged from 4-6 hrs with occasional 7 hrs. Video playback was about 6-7 hrs SOT depending on the resolution of the video. It got degraded fast over time and would feel very hot playing even 20 min of PvZ2.

For looks, I already miss that chrome bezels from the M7. I absolutely loved it when I viewed it from the bottom side and it had that certain bling when light hit it similar to the original iPhone up to the 3Gs. What I don't miss about the M7 was the crap battery life at 3-4 SOT after 21 months and overheat. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like HTC resolved it with the M9. The M8 is probably the better all-around performer with its cooler 801 chip esp if the M9's battery took a skydive along with Snapdragon 810's known overheating issues.

I still miss the M7 for its beauty, display, and sound but not for its performance in battery life and rear camera. If only HTC had given the M7 the innards of the M8, that would be closer to perfect and I would still own that HTC One from 2013... *sigh*

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I don't believe the M9's biggest disappointment in battery life comes from the web browsing but the video playback of 6 hrs and 8 minutes. That is quite low for any price class or any Android flagship released during the last two years. Usually web browsing results can vary depending on the browser used or if you are streaming.

GSM Arena was right on with the Xiaomi Mi 3 getting about 8 hrs from Wi-Fi browsing and 10 hrs video playback. If I stream YouTube or use CM Browser, I might dip below 6 hrs. If I use Opera Mini all the way, I can get close to 10 hrs depending on brightness as it kills 8-11% every hour. But Opera Mini can be terrible sometimes esp where you have to reload many times. If download speeds is 2 mbps, then Opera Mini is fine for me. But if anywhere above 3 mbps, I stick to a faster and more full featured browser. So YMMV when it comes to web browsing at anywhere between 5-10 hrs depending on what you are doing and what is running in the background.

But video playback is usually the closest to the average of your SOT. If all I did was text and watch some videos, I usually will get 10 hrs SOT with 8-10% lost every hour. M9's result of 6 hrs is really quite disappointing especially since they used only a 5 inch FHD and not in 2K! My cheap, lower res Nokia Lumia 635 can probably give me close to 10 hr video playback and 7-8+ hrs for web browsing with its 1830 mAh (but removable) battery. Resulted higher than both generation Moto G's at 9 hrs 45 min according to PhoneArena. The fact M9 doesn't have the fast & wireless charging features that Samsung Galaxy S6 has is also a big mistake by HTC.

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^^ That uses the same Snapdragon 810 and while it doesn't really blow me away with its ratings like other some phablets would from last year, the video playback isn't awful like the M9's. A 6 hr result is going back to the earlier Androids or earlier HTC phones known for awful battery life. It seems after NINE generations of flagships, HTC got the battery life right only ONCE which was last year. The M8 is known to have better battery life than from its actual test results. One out of nine is still a bad track record for battery life for HTC flagships.
 

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If I see smartphones with video playback less than 8-10 hrs, I generally avoid it. Better at 10 hrs and more like those Cowon portable media players a decade ago or phablets. Usually I browse more than watch videos except the problem with that is browsing can vary anywhere from 5 hrs to 10 hrs. Chrome browser gets bloated. Kills battery faster than Opera Mini. Streaming videos on the mobile YouTube site also kills web browsing faster. With video playback, it is CONSISTENT since it is being looped and there aren't so many variables.

With iOS, generally battery life for Wi-Fi browsing and video playback is rated much closer to each other. With Android, browsing can be 8 hrs while videos can be 10 hrs. With Mi 4, it was reversed. I think 6 hrs and 8 min is atrocious for any modern smartphone. This is a huge step backwards, HTC. Still not as bad as the iPod video (5th gen) I got 10 years ago. That only offered TWO HOURS video playback and music playback ranged from 8-12 hrs depending on brightness and if songs were shuffled or not. Shuffling songs made battery shorter. Should've got the Creative Zen with the 3 hr video playback but fell for the Apple hype. I won't be falling for the good looks of the HTC this year with poorer performance...
 

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No, I'll sell the Note 4 but will keep the Motorola X 2014 and the 6+ :)

I'll do that whether it's an Edge or M9 that I get.

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Not sure about USA pricing.

Here what happens everytime there is a new device release is a wave of people buy devices subsidised on their bill pay plans and then sell it off sealed for a price between the retail and subsidised pricing. You can usually find good deals for new sealed devices here.

I imagine retail price here will be around €549-599 with contract pricing from €99-250. So I fully expect to see ones on sale sealed for 450-500 euro.
Makes sense!

Man I really would like to life in your neighborhood, then I could get a top-smartphone every 3 months for a fair price
 

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http://phandroid.com/2015/03/17/htc-one-m9-uh-oh-accidental-damage-insurace/

So this is HTC's new announcement for tomorrow. I like it if modifies the existing warranty. Talk about shaking up the process?

While this warranty is pretty damn useful, who really cares? Didn't they offer free screen replacements on the M8? I've never heard of anyone taking advantage of it.

This phone has already been overshadowed by the S6 and they're both not out yet. Typical HTC. Half-assed and poor quality it seems. They need to work on their direction. Last year, it seemed that they were on the right path, but they just went back to being the good ole HTC.
 

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While this warranty is pretty damn useful, who really cares? Didn't they offer free screen replacements on the M8? I've never heard of anyone taking advantage of it.

This phone has already been overshadowed by the S6 and they're both not out yet. Typical HTC. Half-assed and poor quality it seems. They need to work on their direction. Last year, it seemed that they were on the right path, but they just went back to being the good ole HTC.


Yeah, I'm not sure what it is. My interest in the M9 has shot all the way down to near zero. It almost doesn't make sense, either, because the M9 is by every measure a reasonable upgrade to the M8.

I think it's a combination of bad history that is tied to the HTC name; HTC's "singular" device design philosophy which feels like they're resting on their laurels of a tried-true design; the bad early first impressions in regards to the camera (a sore point that HTC must have known would be scrutinized); and of course Samsung's stunning the tech world with the S6/Edge redesigns and all-out specs.

I think also those false renders/leaks that showed a beautifully redesigned M9 set everyone up for disappointment when HTC didn't come out with that. Talk about bad luck.

And lastly, I think in my research of TouchWiz, I inevitably researched Sense to compare. And honestly, Sense is just all sorts of ugly. I also don't like how much they changed some of the basic Android functions (like top-down scrolling in the app drawer, or tiles in the app switcher).

All these things combined has just left me with little faith in HTC. My interest in the M9 is nearly non-existent anymore. Sad.
 

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While this warranty is pretty damn useful, who really cares? Didn't they offer free screen replacements on the M8? I've never heard of anyone taking advantage of it.

This phone has already been overshadowed by the S6 and they're both not out yet. Typical HTC. Half-assed and poor quality it seems. They need to work on their direction. Last year, it seemed that they were on the right path, but they just went back to being the good ole HTC.

Poor quality? As a former M7 and M8 owner myself, I thought their phones are nicely built, perform very well, and provide a good experience. A great experience involves going above and beyond the call of barebones. HTC played it safe with the M9 simple as that. To be fair, just because your friends or family may not use Uh-Oh, doesn't mean others will not either. Plus, if you don't use it, it's $100 towards a new HTC One M10 or M9 Max or M9+.
 

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Carphonewarehouse just emailed to say they are taking pre-orders now for in-store collection on March 31st.
Does that mean it will be delivered then? Or you can pick it up on person at their stores?
 

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Does that mean it will be delivered then? Or you can pick it up on person at their stores?

I think you have to go into store and pick it up on that date and pay the final price ...

http://links.carphonewarehouse.mkt4...=OTg4MDkxODE5MTYS1&j=NDYzODMyMDMwS0&mt=1&rt=0

• €50 Deposit required
• Remaining Balance will be covered in store
• Store Collection will be confirmed by email
• Bill Pay Customers only
• Stock is limited and subject to availability.
• Pre Order Customers will be given priority on stock availability
• Deposit Refundable
 

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Wait for the Phone Arena battery test. GSM Arena and AnandTech seems too "optimistic" not taking account other factors that makes conditions less ideal. PA seems more rigorous and closer to real world SOT usage.

For news - GSM Arena

For reviews - AnandTech

For battery life - Phone Arena

GSM Arena will always be my fav for news and camera shoot-outs. They are one of my main bookmarked sites for the last 11 years now. But their battery test can be hit or miss and they put too much emphasis on call time/standby time (screen off time) and not much on SCREEN ON TIME.

AnandTech is very thorough with the written reviews, but yeah, the founder who now works for Apple was a bit too biased. Their reviews are still excellent with Brian Klug.

Phone Arena, I can't stand their written and their video reviewers. Everytime I see John V(elasco) smile at the cam, I want to barf. Sorry John V, I prefer girls! So stop staring at the camera like that! Josh Vergara is the better Filipino reviewer to watch on Android Authority where I don't need to puke each time the cam is on him. But PA's testing is more rigorous for some reason and closer to the average real world SOT. They also offer dimension comparisons, Monsters of Asia segment, and the battery recharging time. All sites have their pluses and minuses.

Wait for Phone Arena battery result. If M9 is below M8 by even two hours, then you will have a huge problem. For reference, the M8 scored 7 hrs and 12 min last year from PA. The whole I can get 10+ hrs by browsing from GSM Arena and AnandTech is generally hogwash. Way too optimistic. Most usually get 6-7 hrs SOT on a RAM-hungry and bloated browser from Chrome. 10+ hrs SOT on Wi-Fi? LOL. Yeah, if the screen display is at 20% and you are using Opera Mini with absolutely nothing running in the background and Greenify all the apps.
 

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BGR: HTC reportedly fixes the One M9 so it won’t scald your hand. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw_-PP5iA


So it was buggy pre-release software at fault and NOT the Snapdragon 810
So that brings up the poor decision of HTC to let anyone near one of their phones with pre release buggy software on it. All i have read on forum after forum is the M9 overheats and the camera disappoints.

If all that can be blamed on pre release buggy software then shame on HTC. They bring all the bad press and reviews on themselves.
 

MRU

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So that brings up the poor decision of HTC to let anyone near one of their phones with pre release buggy software on it. All i have read on forum after forum is the M9 overheats and the camera disappoints.

If all that can be blamed on pre release buggy software then shame on HTC. They bring all the bad press and reviews on themselves.
So essentially they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

But regardless of that ... My point was going back to Snapdragon 810 - it doesn't appear - contrary to the rumours and speculation - have an overheating issue. Adds weight to the argument that there does seem to be some indirect badmouthing campaign to try and discredit it.
 
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