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epicrayban

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I guess not having curved edges and a glass back make it lagging behind. :rolleyes:

Right, because those are the only differences...

Also, I don't think the general consumer, unfortunately, will be as forgiving to HTC. They're not exactly in a great place.
 

Savor

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After a few days thinking about it, I actually think the M9 is a better buy than the S6/S6 Edge.

- Cheaper
- Didn't ditch micro-sd card
- Increase battery capacity

Personally, I am already comfortable using Sense as well.

Its Achilles for three straight years now is camera. The fact they didn't include OIS again is a big miss. And I just wished HTC could KILL the UltraPixel cam already! Huawei includes 5/8mp on their selfie cam. Some Chinese white box brands like Starmobile Knight from 2013 has a 8mp selfie cam with flash.

I wasn't crazy about the gaudy gold sides but heard it is quite subtle. Still thinks the M7 looked the best followed by the M8. But the M8 was slippery while the M9 returns to the sharper lines from the M7. Again, this seems more like a One M7/M8 Remix but a better buy even though I feel S6 Edge looks nicer. Ah, design...that's how quickly we forget and don't care. Design is something all of us will get tired of. It is like worshipping some beautiful actress only to get sick of her as you can't stand her acting or she is always on TV. In only three seasons, the One design has gotten "played out." But that will happen to the S6 Edge and any new cool design as well once companies rehash design over and over like Apple does. No different than car manufacturers like BMW or Mercedes.
 

Cnasty

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Right, because those are the only differences...

Also, I don't think the general consumer, unfortunately, will be as forgiving to HTC. They're not exactly in a great place.

It's the only ones that most people are creaming their pants about that are worthless additions.

So yes.

I do agree with your second comment though which is unfortunate as it is better than any phone that Samsung makes besides the Note line.
 

epicrayban

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It's the only ones that most people are creaming their pants about that are worthless additions.

So yes.

I do agree with your second comment though which is unfortunate as it is better than any phone that Samsung makes besides the Note line.

People are creaming their pants about the glass back?
 

Savor

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I think the theming is actually quite cool coming from HTC even though Chinese makers like Xiaomi and Oppo have done it better.

Fickle world we live in. In 2013, OMG to the M7. Best design eva! Flash forward to 2015 and it is like *shrugs* with a nah. Been there, done that.

It is similar to my feelings with Jessica Alba, Beyonce, etc. I used to lust over them when they first arrived on the scene. After so much overexposure, I really don't give a damn what new projects they have. Except my first TV crush was really Jennifer Aniston on that short-lived Ferris Bueller TV show. Except I didn't know that was Jennifer Aniston (circa 1990) back then as a kid until I searched for it on YouTube. Now I just don't care or find her attractive anymore (except in Horrible Bosses as a brunette :p;)).

We get tired of looks and design on everything. Still waiting on the Z4 , G4, and new Moto X and see the NEW feature they can offer us. HTC played it safe this year which can be looked upon as a good or bad thing.
 

petvas

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I understand people being disappointed, but if you start thinking about it, HTC did a nice job. They want to have a recognizable design, just like the iPhone has.
The M9 achieves that.

The only problem could be the camera but I will reserve judgement for that till the final software is there..
 

Fernandez21

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i agree. The M8 was a top 5 Android device last year. Keep the same beautiful design, update the internals, stay consistent with the best sound in the business, improve the camera (still not wonderful but improvement) and we are talking about one of the best Android devices out there again in 2015.

I guess not having curved edges and a glass back make it lagging behind. :rolleyes:

The big thing was the presentation. Samsung made a point of showing the new ram and how much faster it was, plus talking about the chip set and battery, where as HTC just glossed over that even though they have the same ddr4 ram and the s810 is a beast in its own right. They also didn't really mention fast charge, even though its there and didn't really mention battery life which should be killer given the new chip set with larger battery and keeping the resolution at 1080p. I'm curious if they also have the same faster flash storage as the galaxies too.
 

epicrayban

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Not a good start for HTC:

Over heating issues:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M9-powered-by-the-64-bit-Snapdragon-810-produces-overheating-warning-on-AnTuTu_id66795

This along with the disappointing early camera previews may potentially spell trouble for them.

Hopefully its all because of beta software, but regardless this isn't the start they want.
 

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epicrayban

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HTC's cameras have always been terrible. The quality won't improve.

HTC has a lot of history to un-write. It'll take more than just a spec bump and some minor improvements to camera software. They have to prove they're on par with the competition, who during the 2 year Ultrapixel debacle, have gone far ahead.

So far, early impressions do not bode well. Lack of OIS is also a mistake. There were some recent low-light samples between the S6, iPhone 6, and the M9. The M9 fared the worst.
 

Savor

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www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-htc-one-m9-thoughts-592549/

^^^ Interesting comments but Samsung beat HTC this year.

To be nitpicky, I don't really care for the camera hump on the S6e and glass rear. It seems prone to scratches. But then again, I am not a fan of the M9's different colored gold frame and the chamfered edges is missing which makes the screen stick out awkwardly. HTC perfected the external design with the glacial silver M7. I loved that silver chrome. Now it looks a tiny less classy and slightly more awkward (or disjointed) in appearance.

I think LG was smart sticking to plastic last year. What I cant stand is glossy plastic. I really don't get the obsession with metal or glass. But my fav material is really from the BlackBerry Bold 9000 with the faux leather back. The Galaxy Core II has that. I wished if Samsung does go back to plastic, use something like the one found on the Core II. Has a softer feel than the Note's rear in line with the same feel of the Nexus One.Those materials have the advantage of being replaced easily if damaged which cant be always said about metal or glass.

I didn't realize the M9 does not include wireless charging. Should be standard to all smartphones these days. I still like the M9 coming from an M7 that didn't age well. I feel HTC might emulate Apple in design cycles. M7 is like the iPhone 2G. M8 would be 3G and M9 is 3Gs. I can imagine HTC keeping the same design for two straight cycles until changing it up again next year and again in 2018. This 2015 is considered an "s" year for them like Apple. I prefer the s cycles myself. I prefer having the stronger twin as better internal hardware matters more in the longer run. Still, I might not really return to HTC in maybe three more years (M12?). Many of their apps I can install on my phone like the Sense launcher for Blinkfeed and gallery app. I am not in love with all-metal design. Looks good now but asking for more trouble in the longer run. Metal design without removable battery and difficult to fix is for SHORT-SIGHTED people.
 

spriter

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Although I'll reserve final judgement until I've used it myself, the absence of OIS prey much kills it for me. When other flagships have it, and given how much HTC must have known the camera needed to be at lest on par, it's almost unforgivable if the initial camera fears turn out to be true.

My other issue is that it looks weird with the on-screen buttons. I'm not a fan anyway but now they're stacked on a functionless black bar, which sits atop the speaker, it all looks a bit odd - especially in landscape.
 

AppleRobert

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I'm not a camera guy but I've read alot of the iPhone forum that OIS isn't a major difference. Unless those folks saying that aren't really camera guys and think they are. :)
 

epicrayban

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I'm not a camera guy but I've read alot of the iPhone forum that OIS isn't a major difference. Unless those folks saying that aren't really camera guys and think they are. :)

Ois definitely helps not just with video recording but also with low light pictures.
 

blairh

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I honestly feel bad for HTC. I'm seeing their Facebook rep defend the camera by saying the software isn't final. That's embarrassing. Imagine Apple saying the same about the iPhone's camera after the keynote? It would never happen. I don't think Samsung has ever said such a thing either.

I do like the M9 more than the M8 but I really did not like the M8 and I think the S6 is the clear winner in 2015 when comparing the two.

If HTC is still around in 2016 I really think they need a redesign for the M10.
 

spriter

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Saying the camera software isn't final is farcical. They surely knew the camera was the prime target to work on.

I didn't hear too many people saying Sense needed themes and app shortcuts changing depending on location but they seemingly spent resources on that.

Why weren't they perfecting this so-called unfinished camera software? Do we really believe they'll 'fix' something on the next weeks and months when they've already had a year?

Madness.
 

Tig Bitties

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I also feel sorry HTC, they didn't go for a home run on the M9, they just went for a single, thinking that'd be enough.

This year the top smartphones will be the iPhone 6S with the off the charts amazing new camera they've been working on for two years. Plus a major hardware update as well in the new S line.

Also I think LG will come out with an amazing new phone in the G4.

And the OnePlus Two will surprise people. Very high quality build materials with top hardware specs, running a close to stock vanilla Android OS, all for around $425 or so.
 

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Saw the M9 Plus leaked photos and if the only real upgrade is 2k with a 0.2 inch larger display, a optional MediaTek variant, and same sized battery, I say pass. Stick to the M9.

M9 might be the least interesting looking design, but it still offers a micro-SD card slot. So my investment in cards won't go completely wasted. M9 is really my pick if I had to choose between it vs the S6 Edge but the latter does look cooler and more original. The Edge series needs more time to mature. But I go for function over fashion, substance over style. If I wanted style and more limiting options, I would have went back to iPhone. Getting the M9 might feel short-sighted because the battery is so difficult to remove but has more future proof than S6/S6e when it comes to storage.
 

Fernandez21

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Saw the M9 Plus leaked photos and if the only real upgrade is 2k with a 0.2 inch larger display, a optional MediaTek variant, and same sized battery, I say pass. Stick to the M9.

M9 might be the least interesting looking design, but it still offers a micro-SD card slot. So my investment in cards won't go completely wasted. M9 is really my pick if I had to choose between it vs the S6 Edge but the latter does look cooler and more original. The Edge series needs more time to mature. But I go for function over fashion, substance over style. If I wanted style and more limiting options, I would have went back to iPhone. Getting the M9 might feel short-sighted because the battery is so difficult to remove but has more future proof than S6/S6e when it comes to storage.

I don't know, the M9 is solid, but the GS6 and Edge are smaller with a larger display, higher resolution screens, more powerful hardware, better cameras, wireless charging support, finger print scanners, more robust features, and will get more 3rd party support.

The M9 has the all metal construction, boomsound, SD card support, and Sense seems better designed. While it's also possible it may have better performance depending on how well optimized Sense is compared to touchwiz, hardware wise Samsung has really stepped things up and it will be really hard for HTC to compete this year. Its a shame because I really like HTC and I want to stick around.
 

petvas

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As time passes by, the more I like the M9. Especially the gunmetal version.

I already have the M8 (as my second device), but still think there are some reasons to upgrade, especially the display who is calibrated better, with more natural colors. Apart from that, the new CPU and the 32GB (that the M8 doesn't have here in Germany), are also reasons to upgrade.
 

jamezr

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New photos that allegedly show the silver/gold One M9 Plus

Could it be true?
New photos that allegedly show the silver/gold One M9 Plus.
Could the M9 Plus be coming later this month?

HTC's president of the Americas Jason Mackenzie teased an upcoming announcement ahead of the M9 launch later this spring that will help set the phone apart from other Android phones.

"When I look at the flagship [the M9], I see we're building the most premium device," Mackenzie said. "But I can't stop there. We have a huge announcement in middle to late march around extreme differentiation between Samsung and the iPhone. It solves key pain points."



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