Phones HTC One X

[walie]

It's hard for me to take a company, or their data, seriously who call themselves "crittercism"

you can say the same about every other company's name out there

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Indeed. Anyone can make claims and rattle off BS some random company did research on. where is the actual study? There isn't even a link to crittercism or their test anywhere in that. I had to Google them. Oh and thats written by an Android fanboy. Gee, what a coincidence.

here's a more in depth article concerning the study

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/

 

[mbell1975]

you can say the same about every other company's name out there

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here's a more in depth article concerning the study

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/

Thanks. This user already hit the nail on the head with his reply. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think defining a crash makes all the difference. When I used Android and it crashed, it CRASHED – the phone froze on whatever screen and became a ligthed paperweight until I pulled the battery and started over. When my iPhone crashes, the only thing that happens is that the app I was using closes suddenly, and that’s it. I won’t argue that iOS crashes more often, but with iOS its much less tiresome and annoying, because while an occasional app may crash, the phone never does, while android does that quite often.

 

[kevinof]

I see you joined on March 17th this year (happy paddy's day btw), and almost every single post from you has been anti-android. What happened? did android steal your lunch money or something? Why not stop the anti-android bias and post something (anything) positive for a change? Instead of constantly bashing another platform contribute something useful to this site.

its posters like you that give sites like this a bad name.

Thanks. This user already hit the nail on the head with his reply. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think defining a crash makes all the difference. When I used Android and it crashed, it CRASHED – the phone froze on whatever screen and became a ligthed paperweight until I pulled the battery and started over. When my iPhone crashes, the only thing that happens is that the app I was using closes suddenly, and that’s it. I won’t argue that iOS crashes more often, but with iOS its much less tiresome and annoying, because while an occasional app may crash, the phone never does, while android does that quite often.

 

[mark28]

I have a 4S.... Thinking of switching to the HTC One X... Am I insane?

If you want a Quad Core phone, best is to wait what Samsung brings. Samsung builds the best CPU's

 

[mbell1975]

I see you joined on March 17th this year (happy paddy's day btw), and almost every single post from you has been anti-android. What happened? did android steal your lunch money or something? Why not stop the anti-android bias and post something (anything) positive for a change? Instead of constantly bashing another platform contribute something useful to this site.

its posters like you that give sites like this a bad name.

Maybe because I had 7 Android phoneS in 3 years. I got tired of the force closes, crashes, battery pulls, overall unstable OS and carriers or manufacturers stopping support of my phone although I was still well within my 2 year contract. If not that, then it was waiting 6 months or more for the new OS and being stuck on one nearly 2 years old with no upgrading to things like new Google maps and sone apps i wanted. I got stuck with a Nexus S 4G from Sprint that had awful signal and wifi issues. It would go into roaming just driving around. Sprint acknowledged the issues but blamed Samsungs radios and hardware and Samsung blamed Sprints towers. Bottom line is it never got fixed and Sprint wouldn't let me exchange it, so I had to sell it and buy a new phone at full retail price. I will never give anything Android my money ever again, already wasted thousands. That reason enough for ya?

 

[LSUtigers03]

True but the difference is you don't have to jailbreak an iPhone to get a stable OS without force closes and crashes, remove bloat ware installed by your carrier, fix launch day issues that otherwise take months to fix or just to get your battery to last more than 6 hours.

No but you do have to jailbreak to not have a boring bland phone. Also my stock Galaxy Nexus has none of the issues you describe. It also gets better battery life than my 4s.

 

[SurferMan]

You have owned very special Android phones then. Here is just one poll with the vast majority of voters saying their Android phone force closes several times a day. There are dozens of others as well. So you are saying this is normal. You consider multiple force closes a day stable? Don't even get me started on the how many times do you have to pull your battery because your Android phone froze up polls....

http://pocketnow.com/android/how-often-does-your-android-force-close

All I can say is I use my phone heavily daily and had only one force close since I bought it in november and that was FB. Nothing else, no freeze, no reboot, no lag, nothing.... older Androids from a few years ago yeh I 'd agree with as I remember friends having issues from day 1 and on, but now highly unlikely at least with top tier phones. Some went to the 4S and have issues some went to the newer Droids, like buddy bought the Photon the day I got mine since it was on that 96 cent sale Sams online also, his Evo was always "iffy" but his Photon has had no issues. On the other hand have had way more glitches with iOS on the iPhones from app's freezing or crashing to safari freezing or closing randomly or the spring board just freeze out of nowhere and have to hard reset, even the 4S which is our 2nd one and only like 2 months old now has had more issues.

If anything the phones run better being jailbroken with various app's lol, I've had less issues on jb then on stock iOS which is plain odd.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Indeed. Anyone can make claims and rattle off BS some random company did research on. where is the actual study? There isn't even a link to crittercism or their test anywhere in that. I had to Google them. Oh and thats written by an Android fanboy. Gee, what a coincidence.

What is funny is you make that comment above and yet post a link to an even crappier justification than the one you first attacked.

You have owned very special Android phones then. Here is just one poll with the vast majority of voters saying their Android phone force closes several times a day. There are dozens of others as well. So you are saying this is normal. You consider multiple force closes a day stable? Don't even get me started on the how many times do you have to pull your battery because your Android phone froze up polls....

http://pocketnow.com/android/how-often-does-your-android-force-close

Let see a open poll on the intent, on a site that more of it's readers are from non-Android phone and wonder why you get that result.

Also the poll is crap because those force closes have ZERO to do with the rom. Guess what I can give you an App that has tons of force closes. App looks great but can force close all the time. Mind you it is still in development and there are missing parts that are not complete but either way it looks the same. Still has nothing to do with the rom.

mBell as pointed out multiple times before you are pretty good at spreading FUD and I think many of us are starting to question if you really know what you are talking about or just posting things you have read.

 

[cynics]

Speaking of force closes I've been trying something out on my iPhone to have a better comparison to gingerbread and honeycomb.

What I've been doing is not closing the app in the task bar thing. It's been three days and there are 28 apps in there. Tapatalk and Facebook operation has been getting questionable. Tapatalk has FC on me 4 times today and Facebook has just been laggy in scrolling. There is sometimes a delay when waking the phone sometimes too.

Aside from that everything has been pretty good including the battery. But I don't think it's going to last too much longer before I'll really start noticing things. If that's the case I'd compare it to my android experience, if it stays the same as now then it's a little better.

 

[lordofthereef]

Speaking of force closes I've been trying something out on my iPhone to have a better comparison to gingerbread and honeycomb.

What I've been doing is not closing the app in the task bar thing. It's been three days and there are 28 apps in there. Tapatalk and Facebook operation has been getting questionable. Tapatalk has FC on me 4 times today and Facebook has just been laggy in scrolling. There is sometimes a delay when waking the phone sometimes too.

Aside from that everything has been pretty good including the battery. But I don't think it's going to last too much longer before I'll really start noticing things. If that's the case I'd compare it to my android experience, if it stays the same as now then it's a little better.

I can't speak for tapatalk, but facebook has run like garbage for me after 2-3 days of not force closing the app since the very beginning. Proponents for iOS will say that this is bad coding on the developer's part (it very well may be). If a similar thing happens on Android, these same people make claims that it is Android which is poorly written.

 

[blairh]

Has anybody here handled this phone? Impressions? I can't wait to see it in person at AT&T. Might make the jump. Who knows.

 

[nickchallis92]

I've owned 3 android phones now and I've never experienced this constant crashing you lot speak of

 

[naths]

I'v switched to the One X, and i can honestly say that the 4S is now a very dated phone!, the One X is big , but not big enough to be uncomfy, sense 4.0 on top of ICS is just great, sorry to say that this phone in the last week or so i'v had is without doubt the best phone i'v ever used, it does make the iPhone and ios5 look like yesterdays phone, had a play with the One S and even that outdoes the 4S in everyway that i use a phone for!!...you better have something major up your sleeve apple!!!!

 

[nednarm]

Had the One X for 4 days but decided to return it. The battery on my device was appauling and I couldn't seem to get good signal if I was indoors in most places. Maybe I just had a faulty device? I still don't think the One X is anything special though.

 

[chakraj]

I see you joined on March 17th this year (happy paddy's day btw), and almost every single post from you has been anti-android. What happened? did android steal your lunch money or something? Why not stop the anti-android bias and post something (anything) positive for a change? Instead of constantly bashing another platform contribute something useful to this site.

its posters like you that give sites like this a bad name.

Android stole my lunchbox! Darn you android.

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I'v switched to the One X, and i can honestly say that the 4S is now a very dated phone!, the One X is big , but not big enough to be uncomfy, sense 4.0 on top of ICS is just great, sorry to say that this phone in the last week or so i'v had is without doubt the best phone i'v ever used, it does make the iPhone and ios5 look like yesterdays phone, had a play with the One S and even that outdoes the 4S in everyway that i use a phone for!!...you better have something major up your sleeve apple!!!!

The problem is Apple did have something up their sleeve last year, but they chose not to release it and only released the 4s. Now they are going to try and release one year old tech as new, they will still be behind the game by one year.

 

[blairh]

I'd like to hear the following from the people who have owned or currently own the One X.

1. Battery life. If you have an iPhone (or had) how does it compare? In general how did you find battery life to be under a 'normal' day of use.

2. How does the screen compare to a retina display?

3. Were you able to operate the One X with one hand? (Please include how big your hands are.)

4. Is there any way to show the battery life percentage in the top right-hand corner, like an iPhone? (If not that is really annoying.)

Sadly we will have to wait to see how 4G LTE affects the battery life of this device seeing that in the States we are getting said model and it's incredibly important that the One X can handle LTE use without killing the battery.

 

[cynics]

I've owned 3 android phones now and I've never experienced this constant crashing you lot speak of

I'm the same way. None of which were rooted (which I did do to a tablet simply to over clock it). I have apps crash on my iPhone just like I had force close apps on android. After the last update I've been hating tapatalk, crashes 3+ times a day, autocorrects downward where you can't edit or you'll click on pictures/twitter, adding photos puts it BEFORE the quoted text, etc etc it sucks. At least on android it was very easy to get the previous version, maybe I'm dumb but I haven't figured out how to do it with the iPhone. I haven't decided if I'm going to go back to android or try a windows phone yet.

 

[naths]

blairh........

1.My battery is now settled down and I'm getting near enough the same as my 4S was getting maybe a touch more, as in a normal days use, texting, e-mails,ebay, etc, nothing over intensive, obviously at first the battery i thought was crap but that was due to having a new phone and just continuously tinkering, so overall slightly better than the 4S.

2.The screen is something else!!, the size and hi-def resolution are amazing, can't see any pixels at all!!...so again better in my opinion than the 4S.

3.Yep no problem,not as easy as the 4S obviously but still useable and i'v got a bit smaller than average hands, even though this is a big phone it is totally useable.

4.Havnt had a look for that, but i would def say yes, and theres also loads of battery widgets as well....

 

[blairh]

blairh........

1.My battery is now settled down and I'm getting near enough the same as my 4S was getting maybe a touch more, as in a normal days use, texting, e-mails,ebay, etc, nothing over intensive, obviously at first the battery i thought was crap but that was due to having a new phone and just continuously tinkering, so overall slightly better than the 4S.

2.The screen is something else!!, the size and hi-def resolution are amazing, can't see any pixels at all!!...so again better in my opinion than the 4S.

3.Yep no problem,not as easy as the 4S obviously but still useable and i'v got a bit smaller than average hands, even though this is a big phone it is totally useable.

4.Havnt had a look for that, but i would def say yes, and theres also loads of battery widgets as well....

Thanks for your reply.

What exactly has your 'continous tinkering' entailed? Hopefully not much. I'd hate to have to go to big efforts to keep my battery life to acceptable levels.

Yes, the screen looks absolutely stunning. Perhaps the only smartphone that can match the retina display (and 1.2" larger to boot).

I have yet to see any evidence that ICS can allow for a battery percentage a la iPhone. I know this might not be a big deal to many but I think it's a pretty startling (and obvious) omission. I know there are battery widgets but that feels like a less elegant solution.

Even though you say you can handle it with no problems with one hand, I worry if I can. I'm in your same boat (somewhat small adult male hands). Obviously I can answer this question when we get the One X here in the States. The strange thing I learned today is that HTC is calling this phone the HTC One XL over on our side. I think doing so might turn off consumers in that the name itself says 'this is one big phone'. If you know what I mean.

UPDATE:

I have two questions about Android raised from a recent vid I saw on YouTube.

So the bottom right button on the One X is the 'Recent Apps' button. If you tap it it shows the apps you recently were using (camera, browser, facebook, etc). So from what I understand, all those apps are still running (even after you pushed the home button while using them to exit out of said app). Is this true? As you know with iOS, most apps are closed once you exit them. In Android you need to access the recent apps button and manually close them? (In Sense 4.0 that means swipping up with your finger

).

Also, what is the story with 'internal storage' and 'phone storage'. The user on YouTube was saying that he was running out of room for apps because he had low 'internal storage' however I was under the impression/belief that the Android apps actually take up room in the 'phone storage'. Ultimately I'd like to know if there are limitations with Android with respect to how much space for your potential apps.

Thanks.

 

[naths]

About the recent apps, ICS will automatically close the apps if they using any processing or battery power, if not they are sort of ticking over in the background so if you need them again they are already open.
About the storage, with android so much of the storage is for apps only, on the One X there is 2gb, more than enough for most people, if somehow you do manage to fill the 2gig all apps can now be moved to the actual phone storage, so no worry there.
Also about the battery power the One X has 5-cores all in all, the 5th being for standy only and uses virtually nothing power wise.

 

[blairh]

About the recent apps, ICS will automatically close the apps if they using any processing or battery power, if not they are sort of ticking over in the background so if you need them again they are already open.
About the storage, with android so much of the storage is for apps only, on the One X there is 2gb, more than enough for most people, if somehow you do manage to fill the 2gig all apps can now be moved to the actual phone storage, so no worry there.
Also about the battery power the One X has 5-cores all in all, the 5th being for standy only and uses virtually nothing power wise.

Why does Android even bother with internal vs. phone storage? Seems confusing. Also from the how-to section of the One X it appears you need to manually move apps to phone storage if you run out of internal storage? Is that correct or does it do so by default? I ask because I found this on the how-to section:


Moving an app to or from the phone storage
Free up more space in the internal storage by moving apps to the phone storage.
Important: You cannot move an app that's preinstalled on HTC One X.
Slide the Notifications panel open, and then tap .
Tap Apps.
On the Downloaded tab, tap the application you want to move.
Tap Move to phone storage.

 

[DodgeV83]

Yep no problem,not as easy as the 4S obviously but still useable and i'v got a bit smaller than average hands, even though this is a big phone it is totally useable.

When handling the Note, one handed use seems to come in two flavors:

1. Brace the sides

2. Balance the phone while laying on 4 fingers at a shallow angle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetBGBrjXF8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTMHqLsZmI0


With my iPhone I can support the bottom with my pinky and hold the phone with one hand at any angle. In number 1 above, you can't reach the whole screen, since you're fingers are applying pressure to keep the phone upright at that angle (gravity). In number 2 above, the thumb reach is greater, but you seem to be limited in the angles you can hold the phone. It seems the sweet spot is between 0 degrees (laying flat) and 45 degrees before gravity slips the phone out of your hands.

Now for my question...

Is it possible to lean back in your chair, which limits the acceptable screen angle to a little less than 90 degrees, and comfortably use the HTC One X with one hand?

 

[matttye]

You have owned very special Android phones then. Here is just one poll with the vast majority of voters saying their Android phone force closes several times a day. There are dozens of others as well. So you are saying this is normal. You consider multiple force closes a day stable? Don't even get me started on the how many times do you have to pull your battery because your Android phone froze up polls....

http://pocketnow.com/android/how-often-does-your-android-force-close

He didn't say that kind of behaviour was normal, he said he didn't have to install new roms to make the phone stable, which is the same as me.

Don't put words in people's mouths to fit your own agenda.

 

[SurferMan]

With my iPhone I can support the bottom with my pinky and hold the phone with one hand at any angle. In number 1 above, you can't reach the whole screen, since you're fingers are applying pressure to keep the phone upright at that angle (gravity). In number 2 above, the thumb reach is greater, but you seem to be limited in the angles you can hold the phone. It seems the sweet spot is between 0 degrees (laying flat) and 45 degrees before gravity slips the phone out of your hands.

That's actually exactly how I hold my GSII for the most part (4.3" version), which was pretty much the same way I hold the iPhones (using the pinky to balance the bottom). I don't have big hands either. Was always wondering if people held the phone like I do LOL

 

[blairh]

In addition to the internal and phone storage question I raised in my last post, I'd like some clear understanding of the recent apps button in ICS. I've researched this online with various answers. This article seems to be the most detailed and accurate, and still it leaves me a little confused.

From what I gather, even if you hit the home button after being finished with a specific app (for example the browser, camera, Facebook, music player, etc) the app does not actually close. And when you tap the recent apps button (lower right button on the G Nexus and One X) it pulls up a screen tile of what has recently been open (for easy access or to swipe the tile away entirely). From what I gather, people believe that swipping said tile kills the app entirely, but I guess that isn't the case.