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Sun Baked

macrumors G5
May 19, 2002
14,941
162
Even when you drive a piece of crap like a Yugo, you are going to tell yourself that buying a parts car is the best thing in the world compared to paying dealer rates for repairs.

Edit: Can you blame these poor pathetic and deluded souls for failing to come into the light?
 

vv-tim

macrumors 6502
May 24, 2006
366
0
Sun Baked said:
Even when you drive a piece of crap like a Yugo, you are going to tell yourself that buying a parts car is the best thing in the world compared to paying dealer rates for repairs.

Edit: Can you blame these poor pathetic and deluded souls for failing to come into the light?

The arrogant attitude you display is one of the things that turns some people away from both the Mac and Linux communities.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
Don't take it personally....

kevin.rivers said:
Every frickin article about Apple, in which comments can be posted is full of the same tired crap.

"Macs don't run games"

"There is no software for the Mac"

"Macs are more expensive"

All of these are just untrue. However, I am getting tired of fighting the battle. Some of these people are just too darn stupid to get it through their heads.

*Sigh*


Don't take it personally - it's all a moot point now. Macs do Windows...
 

Sun Baked

macrumors G5
May 19, 2002
14,941
162
vv-tim said:
The arrogant attitude you display is one of the things that turns some people away from both the Mac and Linux communities.
Comes with the Cult of Mac decoder ring.
 

freestyleguy128

macrumors regular
Jun 29, 2006
106
0
Virginia
kevin.rivers said:
It was this and the comments that sent me over the edge.

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2006/07/07/bwe-mac-ads/
I think that the skit is funny...what annoys me are all the moronic windows fanboys that are like, "Truth hurts...etc." Well, if I was hearing the skit correctly, it is making fun of pompous mac users...people like that are pompous PC users. It negates itself and just makes windows users look like jackasses.:D
 

ma2fish

macrumors newbie
Jul 1, 2006
5
0
Hampstead, NC
While I'm a newbie here, and only a Mac owner for about 2 weeks now, I have been using and supporting them for a number of years.

The best way I've found to win anyone over is to simply let them take yours for a test drive. My new MacBook is already covered in fingerprints, and the Photobooth is full of stupid pics of people with silly grins from playing around with OS X.

It's fun to answer any of the application questions with a mouse click that either opens a Mac version of the software in question, or at least an open source equivalent.

I don't even mention Boot Camp or Windows until after they're through.
 

4JNA

macrumors 68000
Feb 8, 2006
1,505
1
looking for trash files
yellow said:
...a TON of PCs and I've seen a lot of viruses come in that took down large portions of the PCs on the network. It's more than just viruses, however. It's exploits, spyware, and zombiefied machines that people don't even know about that kills me. A lot of regular users don't know jack **** about patching and whatnot. They just do whatever they do with ignorant impunity.

i agree with yellow on this one. the 'i don't have to fix it, and i'm not interested in learning what i did to break it' crowd makes me nuts. but i smile, fix the silly box, charge them a crap load of money, and fully expect to see them again in a month. i make a nice living fixing windows machines. i have fixed 2 mac products this year. one was a dropped ibook/hd replacement, the other was a simple (mad jew 101) pram/permissions, and delete the preferences fix.

i need windows users. leave them alone. they don't know/care/understand any of this anyway. they just want the new kewl screen saver that they heard about on email... :(
 

Mord

macrumors G4
Aug 24, 2003
10,091
23
UK
vv-tim said:
I have no idea what quid is... but did you have a $750 off $2000 coupon? Try applying one of those. They pop up all the time on Dell.

Even without the coupon, I just specced an E1705 w/ 2GB of RAM (up from 1GB on the MBP), extended life battery, and Geforce Go 7900 at $2192. All else was equal or comparable to the 17" MBP. That's $600 less! Add the $750 off coupon and it's $1350 less! Granted, apply Apple's education discount and you're at ~$1050 less.

But -please- don't say Apple design doesn't come at a premium ;)

look at my location.
 

netdog

macrumors 603
Feb 6, 2006
5,760
38
London
kevin.rivers said:
Every frickin article about Apple, in which comments can be posted is full of the same tired crap.

"Macs don't run games"

"There is no software for the Mac"

"Macs are more expensive"

All of these are just untrue. However, I am getting tired of fighting the battle. Some of these people are just too darn stupid to get it through their heads.

*Sigh*

Why do you care?

Just love your Mac and don't bother evangelizing or defending your choice.
 

2ndPath

macrumors 6502
Feb 21, 2006
355
0
kevin.rivers said:
Every frickin article about Apple, in which comments can be posted is full of the same tired crap.

"Macs don't run games"

"There is no software for the Mac"

"Macs are more expensive"

All of these are just untrue. However, I am getting tired of fighting the battle. Some of these people are just too darn stupid to get it through their heads.

*Sigh*

These are statements are about as true as

"Windows PCs are always plagued by viruses and spyware"

"Windows always crashes"

All have their validity from a certain perspecive, but are not generally true.
 

Sesshi

macrumors G3
Jun 3, 2006
8,113
1
One Nation Under Gordon
vv-tim said:
I have no idea what quid is... but did you have a $750 off $2000 coupon? Try applying one of those. They pop up all the time on Dell.

Even without the coupon, I just specced an E1705 w/ 2GB of RAM (up from 1GB on the MBP), extended life battery, and Geforce Go 7900 at $2192. All else was equal or comparable to the 17" MBP. That's $600 less! Add the $750 off coupon and it's $1350 less! Granted, apply Apple's education discount and you're at ~$1050 less.

But -please- don't say Apple design doesn't come at a premium ;)


No I won't. But I would say that for this additional London-based former serial Dell purchaser and probably one of the few individuals who gets corporate pricing that the "Apple premium", at the consumer single-machine purchase level at least, is not as huge as some PC'ers make out especially if you consider the side benefits.

Even if I factor in the best price I got for the Inspiron, it's only a few hundred pounds off and not enough to justify the difference in feel that opening the two laptops brings about every single day. The Dell + XP feels like work even if I'm playing. The Apple + OSX feels like playing even if I'm working.
 

chaosbunny

macrumors 68020
Of course you pay premium for design. Why shouldn't you? Why does anyone expect you don't have to? You pay premium for design with EVERY product, be it cars, motorcycles, furniture, WHATEVER. Why does anyone expect this to be different for computers?

In order to achieve good design you have to hire designers and put money and effort in the process of creating something. You don't have to do this when you shove everything into the standart black plastic case. More production cost = more expensive unit.

Some people value design, others do not. Some people value the design of their computer, others do not. A friend of mine has the cheapest dell laptop because he is not interested in computers an only uses it for storing music and internet. The same guy has a 2000 € designer leather couch in his living room. I have a 2000 € Powerbook but use the old couch from my grandma because I do not have the desire to buy a new one and would never buy a couch for 2000 € (my cat would destroy it anyway).

To each their own but you will always pay premium for design.
 

ryannel2003

macrumors 68000
Jan 30, 2005
1,815
388
Greenville, NC
Yeah sometimes it can get really annoying. But what I hate the most is when people say "Macs are gay". Which is exactly what my friend said the other day (Didn't even know how to use my eMac, and said it before he woke it up; Dell user; of course) and it pissed me off. Yes its different than XP, but gay? Ughhhhhhhhh :mad:
 

bousozoku

Moderator emeritus
Jun 25, 2002
16,120
2,399
Lard
Hector said:

You don't have to be angry at me because you were lazy. You could have posted that link first instead of telling him to look at your location or just given an explanation.

For that matter, they don't use the pound in London, Ontario; London, Ohio; London, Kentucky, or London, Connecticut.
 

Timepass

macrumors 65816
Jan 4, 2005
1,051
1
2ndPath said:
These are statements are about as true as

"Windows PCs are always plagued by viruses and spyware"

"Windows always crashes"

All have their validity from a certain perspecive, but are not generally true.


very true.

About the only good complaint on the list is the games ones. If you want to play computer games you dont get a mac.
Cost wise they are about the same.
Software wise for the most part pretty close
Games....Well the said truth is macs dont do games very well.
 

Agent69

macrumors regular
Sep 22, 2005
107
3
Middleburg, Florida
When it comes to laptops, I think Apple is very, very competetive, but in the desktop area, I think Apple is just a bit more expensive. I also think it is a shame that you have to spend $2000.00 to get a tower.
 

Manic Mouse

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2006
943
0
kevin.rivers said:
Every frickin article about Apple, in which comments can be posted is full of the same tired crap.

"Macs don't run games"

"There is no software for the Mac"

"Macs are more expensive"

All of these are just untrue. However, I am getting tired of fighting the battle. Some of these people are just too darn stupid to get it through their heads.

*Sigh*

They're not all untrue at all. Especially the price one. So long as you don't care too much about how "pretty" your computer looks you can get a far better spec at a much lower price if you buy from DELL rather than appple. Case in point, I just configured a PC:

£1028.99

3.2Ghz pentium D
XP Media centre
2Gb RAM
320Gb HDD storage (2x 160Gb)
16x DVD +/- RW
GeForce 7900GS 256Mb
TV Tuner and remote
20" monitor

In comparison the 20" iMac costs £1129 (£100 more than the DELL) and is worse in every single way in terms of specs, in many cases a lot worse.

I'm not trying to flame. But if you look at it purely in terms of what you're getting in the box then Macs are more expensive than their PC counterparts. Well, in the most part. The Macbook is actually fairly competitively priced.

The premium for Macs is in many peoples eyes (including my own) well worth it. However that doesn't make the statement that "Macs are more expensive" any less true.
 

dextertangocci

macrumors 68000
Apr 2, 2006
1,766
1
Shotgun Pete said:
Lol, I work at a computer store that doesn't sell macs, its kinda hard not to tell people to walk away and go to apple, especially if they want one and I have to convince them to go to PC

:eek: :eek: :eek: Why? Whhhhyyyyyyy?

I would just secretly tell them to instead buy a mac. Don't trick innocent people into useing the devils equipment!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stupid microsoft:mad:
 

dextertangocci

macrumors 68000
Apr 2, 2006
1,766
1
Manic Mouse said:
In comparison the 20" iMac costs £1129 (£100 more than the DELL) and is worse in every single way in terms of specs, in many cases a lot worse.

:eek: How can you say that!!!???????!!!!!!????!!!???!??!?!?!??!?!?!? WTF!?! Are you out of your mind???? Are you forgetting that the Dell runs :mad: windoze:mad:, and the dell looks like total S*%T Oh yes, and the processor, the pentium D sucks, and the core duo can run circles around it:) I hate Dell;)
 

wako

macrumors 65816
Jun 6, 2005
1,404
1
to the OP...


stick around these forums and sooner or later you just might get sick of the same arguments against PCs, that are most of the time untrue as well ;)
 

Josh

macrumors 68000
Mar 4, 2004
1,640
1
State College, PA
I know what you mean, but I typically enjoy them.

PC user: "Macs suck...you can't do anything on them at all. They are for newbs.."

Me: "Why do you say that? I play WoW, edit photos, make websites, and do my homework on mine."

PC User: "Wow - you do your homework? What is that...typing in Word? Windows does that too. What's your major?"

Me: "Computer science."

Pc User: "Oh......"
 
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