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SanderEvers

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Because there is no ****ing small and light Mac (preferably with a detachable keyboard) with cellular for me to buy.

Even if there were, I'd prefer to travel with only one device, which means I'd lose out on all the stuff the iPad is actually better for.




I'd happily pay $10000 for a device that actually does what I want.



The whole point is mobility, so no, it does none of what I want.

I am more than happy with my desk situation.



I wouldn't care if the touch interface was disabled altogether in "Mac mode".

So a Mac with a detachable keyboard. You don't want an iPad, you want an improved Mac ;)

Personally, I'd be happy enough with virtualization support on iPadOS, which would also remove practically all the security concerns you could possibly have.

Like I already said, allowing the iPad to run Mac apps (sandboxed) would be a workable solution. Like how you can run certain iPad and iOS apps on M-Mac.
 

Populus

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Like @Regulus67 said, give me an eject button for external drives, make a more refined and complete file manager, with apps such as Disk Utility, and let us install on iPadOS the macOS binaries or apps we want, wether from the web or from the now unified App Store. Having all of that, I wouldn’t really need macOS. But I would make the interface of iPadOS a bit more complex and tuned for a pointer, when an external display + pointer device + keyboard is connected.

So, well, I agree with OP, with some personal nuances I’d add.

If Apple implements all of this, or allow a macOS-like mode, when connected to an external display, I’m going all in for the new iPad pro on the 1TB capacity.
 

Yoms

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And what would happen if you connect it to a mouse + keyboard and it would boot into mac os and then you remove the keyboard? Would it just reboot or crash?
Is this a legit question? C'mon please, stop that nonsense already. I mean, seriously, do you really think Apple would do such a thing and let the iPad crash each time you disconnect the mouse/keyboard? Can you just give them a little bit credit to come with a solution that allows switching between both systems without crashing the iPad. I mean, c'mon...

Also, we can already connect a mouse + keyboard to the iPad, then disconnect them........ and it doesn't crash or reboot.

Finally, let's stop making assumption about how Apple may or may not implement such a solution should they decide to follow that route. Here, we are users. Hence, let's focus on the usability / how convenient it is for us users to have/not have macOS on an iPad. Some would love to have macOS on the iPad. Some don't. For those who don't, just ignore the topic.

Now, one thing is for sure. Given how many reviews they've been out there since the iPad Pro M1 and M2 releases, always complaining about how limiting iPadOS is in regards to the tech specs, there's definitely a topic to be addressed by Apple.

Maybe Apple will come with another idea dubbed... iPadOS Pro lmao.
 
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Yoms

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There's good news though: we're all going to be happy with the next iPadOS release because we'll be able to use a calc app without ads. Yay!
 
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SanderEvers

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Is this a legit question? C'mon please, stop that nonsense already. I mean, seriously, do you really think Apple would do such a thing and let the iPad crash each time you disconnect the mouse/keyboard? Can you just give them a little bit credit to come with a solution that allows switching between both systems without crashing the iPad. I mean, c'mon...

Also, we can already connect a mouse + keyboard to the iPad, then disconnect them........ and it doesn't crash or reboot.

You wrote that it would switch into a Mac mode it would require a keyboard and mouse. But what if you then remove the keyboard and mouse? You wouldn't be meeting the requirements to run macOS. So what would happen then?

Finally, let's stop making assumption about how Apple may or may not implement such a solution should they decide to follow that route. Here, we are users. Hence, let's focus on the usability / how convenient it is for us users to have/not have macOS on an iPad. Some would love to have macOS on the iPad. Some don't. For those who don't, just ignore the topic.

Actually this topic is for users who don't want a degraded iPadOS version because they added macOS to iPad. That's literally what I stated in the TS.

Now, one thing is for sure. Given how many reviews they've been out there since the iPad Pro M1 and M2 releases, always complaining about how limiting iPadOS is in regards to the tech specs, there's definitely a topic to be addressed by Apple.
Again I said in the TS that I would love to see Apple improve iPadOS. But putting macOS on iPad DOES NOT IMPROVE iPAD!!!!

Maybe Apple will come with another idea dubbed... iPadOS Pro lmao.

Yeah, no.
 

Yoms

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You wrote that it would switch into a Mac mode it would require a keyboard and mouse. But what if you then remove the keyboard and mouse? You wouldn't be meeting the requirements to run macOS. So what would happen then?
Man, what in "stop that nonsense" from my previous message haven't you understood? Are you just trying to pump your own thread or what? What happens when you remove your BT keyboard/mouse from an iMac???????

Actually this topic is for users who don't want a degraded iPadOS version because they added macOS to iPad. That's literally what I stated in the TS.
Again, what haven't you understood in the fact that Apple could give 2 separate options, one not influencing the other? As I said, let Apple decide how to do it should they do it. It can be a dual boot, running a VM / containers, it can be a regular app called "macOS" that you can install or not. Whatever. Let's not outsmart Apple here.

If Apple decides not to bring macOS to the iPad, it won't be because of technical limitations. It will be because Apple has decided that it won't fit their business strategy. That's all there is to it, really.
 

Ludatyk

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If Apple decides not to bring macOS to the iPad, it won't be because of technical limitations. It will be because Apple has decided that it won't fit their business strategy. That's all there is to it, really.
This! And I can't quite understand... what's the purpose of folks asking for it?

Now, one thing is for sure. Given how many reviews they've been out there since the iPad Pro M1 and M2 releases, always complaining about how limiting iPadOS is in regards to the tech specs, there's definitely a topic to be addressed by Apple.
Personally, I think that's just the narrative critics like to run with... brings out the clicks. They been saying this ever since the iPad Pro was introduced back in 2015.

And unfortunately, the complaining won't go away until macOS is on an iPad. Because each year iPadOS receive an update in WWDC... it's never enough.
 

Yoms

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what's the purpose of folks asking for it?
Money!

I can absolutely picture myself on the couch, on the go, in the bed, etc. using an iPad as usual. And placing my iPad on my desk connected to a 27" display, a keyboard and a mouse for the intensive work in macOS mode.

Can I do this today? Yes! But I would need to buy both an iPad and a Mac. Hence the answer to your question. Money's tight these days mate!
 

Ludatyk

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We ask for it because we want it. If we continue asking we may just get it.
This is Apple we are talking about... money talks. They get more profit from you buying two products... not one.

Correct. It is never enough. That is the problem.
I'm sure a vast number of folks don't consider it a problem... that's why it hasn't changed.

Money!

I can absolutely picture myself on the couch, on the go, in the bed, etc. using an iPad as usual. And placing my iPad on my desk connected to a 27" display, a keyboard and a mouse for the intensive work in macOS mode.

Can I do this today? Yes! But I would need to buy both an iPad and a Mac. Hence the answer to your question: "Money!"
No arguing with you there. But what's the purpose of asking for it when it doesn't fit into Apple's business strategy?
 

Yoms

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Lol, good luck with that.

I want an iPhone with multitasking features... stylus. Decided they wasn't going to make that... moved on.
Hope was more of a rhetorical answer. Truth is that we assume that it doesn't fit Apple's business strategy. What they actually think may differ. Let's see what WWDC has to offer.

I believe we'll neither see macOS on the iPad nor macOS-ish features brought to iPadOS. It'll be a status quo in that regard. It's just going to be about AI. But hey, who cares about what I believe anyways.
 
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RLRabb

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Please tell me how to rename a folder full of files.
Are you trying to rename the folder, or the items inside the folder, in the Files app? Renaming the folder is easy, as is renaming the individual files. Long-pressing the item, or two-finger pressing a trackpad, will bring up a contextual menu that offers a Rename option.

Edit: if bulk renaming is your goal, I can’t offer anything. Maybe a Shortcut can be created?
 
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bcortens

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Is this a legit question? C'mon please, stop that nonsense already. I mean, seriously, do you really think Apple would do such a thing and let the iPad crash each time you disconnect the mouse/keyboard? Can you just give them a little bit credit to come with a solution that allows switching between both systems without crashing the iPad. I mean, c'mon...

Also, we can already connect a mouse + keyboard to the iPad, then disconnect them........ and it doesn't crash or reboot.

Finally, let's stop making assumption about how Apple may or may not implement such a solution should they decide to follow that route. Here, we are users. Hence, let's focus on the usability / how convenient it is for us users to have/not have macOS on an iPad. Some would love to have macOS on the iPad. Some don't. For those who don't, just ignore the topic.

Now, one thing is for sure. Given how many reviews they've been out there since the iPad Pro M1 and M2 releases, always complaining about how limiting iPadOS is in regards to the tech specs, there's definitely a topic to be addressed by Apple.
Most tech pundits and reviewers seem to be unable to clearly articulate the problems with iPadOS.
They say things like "files is bad" without describing what is missing or how it could be improved.
They argue that the OS can't use the power of the system but that is just a straight misunderstanding that calls into question their actual understanding of how OSs work.

The OS is not limited for technical reasons but Apple policy reasons. Background processing limitations are Apple's choice. Choosing not to build full a fledge file manager is Apple's choice. The OS itself has no limitations in the file system (it uses the same APFS as macOS) it is only Apple's choices that prevent them from adding bulk rename.

Most of the limitations in Apps are just that, limitations in Apps, not the OS.

Maybe Apple will come with another idea dubbed... iPadOS Pro lmao.
I hope not.
 

Alameda

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This is Apple we are talking about... money talks. They get more profit from you buying two products... not one.

But what's the purpose of asking for it when it doesn't fit into Apple's business strategy?
THAT is exactly the problem.
It’s perfectly fine with me if Apple wants the MacBook to the their productivity product and iPad to be a content consumption plaything.

But, when Apple sells and iPad at the same price as a MacBook, says it has the same processor memory and storage, and tells me that its lightning fast and capable of performing professional tasks like photo and video editing… then it ought to do those things as well as a MacBook does. And it definitely does not.
 
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bcortens

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THAT is exactly the problem.
It’s perfectly fine with me if Apple wants the MacBook to the their productivity product and iPad to be a content consumption plaything.

But, when Apple sells and iPad at the same price as a MacBook, says it has the same processor memory and storage, and tells me that its lightning fast and capable of performing professional tasks like photo and video editing… then it ought to do those things as well as a MacBook does. And it definitely does not.
According to the fans of apps like LumaFusion it gets pretty close to doing it just as well. It tends to be fans of the Mac (rather than iPad fans) who are most upset with the iPad and want it to work identically when there is no reason to expect a touch-first UI to have the same design considerations as a mouse and keyboard first UI.

Note: I am on record here outlining countless ways iPadOS should be improved, but none of them are by bringing macOS to it.
 
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stinksroundhere

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The final say on this matter was concluded years ago.

The iPad is a post-PC device. Benchmarks mean nothing. Desktop operating systems are not supposed to be on tablets.

Who said this?

Steve Jobs himself.

 
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