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I don't wan't OSX to be like iOS.
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I consider it an honor to be on KnightWRX's ignore list! Felt like.......Victory!
Incidentally, despite his vociferous defence of versions, in his own words, he's never used it according to this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=14104043#post14104043
Where he comes out with this revelation: "Frankly, it's been one big non-issue for me as I've yet to even run into software that implements Versions."
I rest my case.
Interesting article. While of course it is a bit exaggerated, it makes one important point: There is no innovation in ML. Copying over features from iOS might in some cases make sense, and maybe even improves some aspects of the OS. But it is not innovating.
Apple might think that the development of the desktop is mostly finished - which usually would mean that some other company will take over eventually.
One other complaint that I agree with is the design/layout of some apps. iCal looks terrible, already in Lion! And a note taking app does not have to look like a legal pad!
On the other hand, one should not underestimate Apple... not yet at least!
Especially if you close your eyes and pretend that all the innovations that are in ML don't exist. It helps if you yell "LALALALALALALALALA..." while you are pretending.
Eh, I feel the same about Versions and I've used it frequently. Anecdotal evidence is wonderful.
And Gomff, you're on far more ignore lists than just his.
It's funny, the people who dislike Lion and Mountain Lion either say it's changed too much or not enough. You can't have it both ways, folks.
Gizmodo is on the bottom of the totem pole as far as I'm concerned. They're probably still butt-burt that Apple didn't allow them to their press conference.
What is innovative? There are new features, and at least some of them are good. I think it will be a good OS, and an improvement over Lion.
There is some potential for innovation in the iCloud implementation and the way we interact with the file system. But the rest is just copying of (good) iOS features.
Maybe it's time for OS 11.
You mean that time where they purchased stolen property, then proceeded to take it apart so they could post pictures all over the internet? Or when they tried to contact the poor guy who lost the thing just to rub the whole ordeal in his face even more?
Or that other time when they took TV-B-Gone units to CES, and actively disrupted the trade show displays of numerous companies, going so far as to even disrupt the keynote presentations?
Those people?
Yeah, that's them.
-SC
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And Gomff, you're on far more ignore lists than just his.
I guess it beats yelling "LALALALALALALALALA..." every time I post
Truthfully, it doesn't bother me at all. In some cases, (like with KnightWRX) it's preferable. If you were to join your brothers in ignorance, I wouldn't be offended.
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I just realized that several pages of this thread is taken up with discussions of the pros and cons of versions, but the title of this thread is "I don't wan't OSX to be like iOS."
Like it or hate it, versions doesn't even exist in iOS. How did this thread wander so off-topic?
Like it or hate it, versions doesn't even exist in iOS. How did this thread wander so off-topic?
Any thread that even mentions iOS and OS X in the same breath usually gets mobbed by the 'Lion sucks and I'm sticking to Snow Leopard' crowd.
Actually, you're wrong. It is saved at this point.
Until you select a name for it, state is saved in the app anyway - you can quit the app, reboot, etc - and your work is saved automagically. Just re-open the app, and it is there.
There's just no named file on the filesystem yet (well, there probably is, but...) because.... you haven't given it one.
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Go into versions and retrieve the version from the exact date? If you have a "finished" version of the document you don't want to do this, perhaps lock it?
Erring on the side of saving work, when old versions can easily be retrieved is far preferable to losing your work due to user error or soft/hardware failure.
As versions are saved on the same drive, if your hardware fails so goes all your data. The best way to be safe is to use "Time Machine" hourly backups on another drive. Your "versions" are saved and you won't have to worry bout drive failure. Simply open a pervious version of your document from "Time Machine" and restore it to where ever you please. Presto!
(also better if your programming and don't want to have to weed through numerous versions as much coding is temporarily kept by most and only saved when the individual wants. Imagine going through tons of lines of code from hourly versions to get to the document you DO want, not fun)
Not all hardware failures involve the hard drive or cause data loss in the same way. Sometimes, a hardware induced Kernel panic can cause a few minutes up to a few hours of lost work "NOOO!!!! shoulda saved!!!
". No more with Autosave. Didn't want those modifications ? Versions is there.A temporary saved state is not the same thing, and only serves to confuse the issue of whether a file is actually saved or not. Unless a document has a file name and a location in the file system (that I can find), it's not saved in my book.
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At which point, the head buried in the sand, "everything Apple do is for my own good, problem - what problem?" crowd ride into town.
This argument is just silly. I'm not getting into the whole cycle where I name an innovative feature and you come up with some feature that's similar in another operating system. It's a useless argument.
Innovation comes not only in the implementation of new and unique features (which is more specifically referred to as invention), but also in the way those features are implemented and the methods used to implement them. If you seriously can't come up with a single innovation in ML, then you are just being willfully ignorant.
You're confusing LTD with KnightWRX.At which point, the head buried in the sand, "everything Apple do is for my own good, problem - what problem?" crowd ride into town.
I said "as expected of a DP" if you missed it.
1. "Natural scrolling" When you scroll down on a laptop, you expect the page to scroll down, not up.
2. Gigantic Safari tabs. Displaywide tabs might have been good for a 7" wide screen but for a 12" wide screen, it's just a horrible implementation of tabs.
3. Notification center's implementation. Like I said, Growl's implementation is much better, with an overlay instead of a screen push-away.
4. Launchpad. Dumbest idea ever especially when we have the Applications folder and/or Quicksilver.
5. Dumbing down of utilities like Airport Utility. Seriously? I have to download a legacy version of Airport Utility to change certain basic settings on my Time Capsule, but can't use iCloud with it?
6. Mac App Store. iOS doesn't have firmware updates provided through its App Store; why should Macs do so? Why should developers have to give 30% of their profit to Apple just so they can implement iCloud and Notification Center? It's not like the Mac App Store popularizes new apps like App Store does. Sooner or later a hacker is going to crack Notification Center so that it can be used by any app but the current rules are just too ridiculous. (Although the app discovery portion of MAS is somewhat neat)
7. Loss of physical media. I'm gonna get flamed on this one. Software suites like iWork and iLife will soon be exclusively digital, as Mountain Lion is also (although you can burn the ESD DMG to a USB like Lion). What if your internet is throttled and/or have slow internet? Monthly caps? Not all of us have fast internet with unlimited usage, and for those of us who use satellite internet or DSL, if internet is down, physical media would be very useful.
8. Notes and Stickies as separate applications. Redundant, don't you think?
9. Messages wasting so much space, and the inability to see the full friends list in fullscreen mode.
10. Game Center. Steam and Origin really will drive this new app to oblivion.
11. New skins. Does iCal / Calendar really have to look like a paper calendar with a faux leather binding? Isn't a simple unified interface a much better option, not to mention more eye pleasing?
12. Gatekeeper. I'm sure there's been extensive debates about this so I won't even explain this one.