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I would just say…again…that just because someone does NOT use a case, it does NOT automatically follow that they will drop their phone.

Not using a case does not mean non-case users are dropping their phone and getting it replaced every other week. I don't have the time or money for that either, but I'm not dropping my phone like that and I don't use a case.

No case ≠ always dropping your phone.

I wasn’t suggesting other people drop their iPhones every other week, I was talking about myself. I drop my phone fairly often which is one of the reasons I use a case. Not having a case on it won’t suddenly stop me accidentally dropping the phone either. I use my phone as a tool and it gets used without worry. I don’t have special holders for it or a place down procedure, it just gets chucked in the side and does fall off my lap or the kids drop it when using it in the garden when they are filming their dance videos etc.
 
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I wasn’t suggesting other people drop their iPhones every other week, I was talking about myself. I drop my phone fairly often which is one of the reasons I use a case. Not having a case on it won’t suddenly stop me accidentally dropping the phone either. I use my phone as a tool and it gets used without worry. I don’t have special holders for it or a place down procedure, it just gets chucked in the side and does fall off my lap or the kids drop it when using it in the garden when they are filming their dance videos etc.
Gotcha. We are two different people it seems. ;)

Note, that comment is not meant to be snarky. Just factual.
 
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So capitalism is based, among other things, on jealousy 😄 what else is new?

I use a case because my iPhone XR is like bar of soap. And I’m not rich enough to buy an iPhone every time it fells and breaks 😄
 
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if you lay it face down (like I almost always do), you'll scratch the screen.Nothing against using a phone caseless, I used to do it all the time, but there are factors beyond money that go into deciding to use a case.
Right on. I probably would have started using cases years ago had I known about an option like this. As I said, I mostly just want the scratch protection. I like knowing I can set my phone down outside on a rock without the back getting shredded.
Own a modern iPhone and yes, you can "set my phone down outside on a rock without the back getting shredded." It is fine to want to spend more to buy cases because one likes the look of cases (not me) or the feel of cases (not me) or the extra volume taken by cases (not me) but stop with the claims that newer iPhones self-destruct with basic usage.

Agreed older iPhones were more susceptible to damage and demanded cases or careful handling. But this is now 2023.
 
I have a case so the phone fits in the holster. Also, I just don't like the feel of the phone itself. Far too slippery. I like the rubberized case.

Same. Regardless of the durability (which I think is lacking), I just don't like the feel of the iPhone without a case. It's too square, too slippery and too thin to be comfortable. I really, really, don't like the feel of the squared edges and I don't like that it can't lay flat on it's back.
 
I wasn’t suggesting other people drop their iPhones every other week, I was talking about myself. I drop my phone fairly often which is one of the reasons I use a case. Not having a case on it won’t suddenly stop me accidentally dropping the phone either. I use my phone as a tool and it gets used without worry. I don’t have special holders for it or a place down procedure, it just gets chucked in the side and does fall off my lap or the kids drop it when using it in the garden when they are filming their dance videos etc.
My iPhones have always been used hard, including being dropped a lot. I broke and replaced cases constantly, and a screen once (sat on an early iPhone on a ski lift). Somewhere around the 11 or 12 Pro the iPhones became so durable as to no longer require cases in my hard-use experience.

Obviously no smartphone is totally impervious to damage (duh), but generally the 12 Pro and newer are hella durable enough that most folks can skip buying cases unless they actually like added cost, more volume, different feel and the look of a case.

Edit: Back when I was constantly destructing iPhone cases I found that the thin leather case from Apple would actually survive my abuse without needing replacement. They just got scuffed up, which worked for me.
 
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The case seems to detract something from the appeal of the iPhone and also may contribute to overheating. It is like a police inspector who decides not to take a gun on a job because it is too heavy and pulls too much on a pocket and makes his cool suit looks bad. I guess you'll have to risk something if you want to stay classy.
 
Back when I was constantly destructing iPhone cases I found that the thin leather case from Apple would actually survive my abuse without needing replacement. They just got scuffed up, which worked for me.

That's part of the reason why I've always loved leather cases - scratches just add to the 'character'. :)
 
The case seems to detract something from the appeal of the iPhone and also may contribute to overheating. It is like a police inspector who decides not to take a gun on a job because it is too heavy and pulls too much on a pocket and makes his cool suit looks bad. I guess you'll have to risk something if you want to stay classy.
The attraction of the iPhone for me is the OS and the ecosystem, not so much the physical design.

I think the camera bump is atrocious, for example.
 
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That's part of the reason why I've always loved leather cases - scratches just add to the 'character'. :)
Some of us, myself include, believe that scratches on the phone itself add to the 'character'.

I don't actively seek to scratch my phones, but whenever I discover it is scratched I don't have an issue with it. When you use tools they will eventually show wear. It means they are being used as intended.

Just my take.
 
The apple of the iPhone for me is the OS and the ecosystem, not so much the physical design.

I think the camera bump is atrocious, for example.
I am attracted to the design, although I agree that the camera boil is fugly.

But, as with you, iOS is my primary attraction. However, not the ecosystem. I made my own ecosystem starting with the iPhone 5 when Apple stopped supporting the iPhone with PowerPC Macs. I'm not 'trapped' in Apple's ecosystem and can move freely to other brands of device if I choose. So, my staying with Apple because of iOS is merely a choice.
 
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Some of us, myself include, believe that scratches on the phone itself add to the 'character'.

I don't actively seek to scratch my phones, but whenever I discover it is scratched I don't have an issue with it. When you use tools they will eventually show wear. It means they are being used as intended.

I don't disagree, but I also enjoy when things look nice. After awhile I'll slap a new case on my phone for just that reason.
 
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I don't disagree, but I also enjoy when things look nice. After awhile I'll slap a new case on my phone for just that reason.
I also enjoy when they look nice. As I said, I do not intentionally seek out scratches. In fact, I actively seek to prevent them by how I handle my devices. But when or if they happen, it's not a problem to me.

And every phone/device I own is in good condition.
 
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Probably a lot of people on apple upgrade program and/or appleca
It’s all subjective isn’t it. I find iPhones difficult to handle without a case and not exactly pleasant to hold either. After seeing someone drop a 14 Pro 200mm onto a cobbled street recently and witnessing how easy these phones smash, I’d never take the risk. I haven’t got the time to be replacing my phone every other week. Don’t get me wrong though, I couldn’t give a toss whether others use cases or damage their iPhones, as long as it’s not mine
"...drop a 14 Pro 200mm onto a cobbled street" is a pretty specific extra-hard usage case. Of course a 2 meter (6.6 feet) drop to land a flat phone face on a protruding piece of granite will likely damage a phone. However, that described level of extreme abuse does not lead to "how easy these phones smash."

Normal hard usage (my iPhones get dropped on to concrete on occasion; typically 4 feet not 6+ feet and typically flat concrete not harder, protruding cobbles) does not lead to "replacing my phone every other week." The worst that has happened so far is a small bit of scuffing on the edge. I could fix that by smoothing with emery paper if I cared but I don't.
 
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I’ve started seeing less and less cases out in the wild. My family and I use the carved live edge cases which retail $189. They’re slim but gorgeous. I’m good with that. Protects enough as well while looking like a piece of art
I just found out about Carved a few hours ago - are they a new case maker? I’m fine with my thin Peel MagSafe case for now, but always had a fascination with wood/resin projects and I think those cases look amazing even at the steeper price.

How do you like yours? Are they good long-term?
 
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Own a modern iPhone and yes, you can "set my phone down outside on a rock without the back getting shredded." It is fine to want to spend more to buy cases because one likes the look of cases (not me) or the feel of cases (not me) or the extra volume taken by cases (not me) but stop with the claims that newer iPhones self-destruct with basic usage.

Agreed older iPhones were more susceptible to damage and demanded cases or careful handling. But this is now 2023.
I never said any of the stuff you’ve got me quoted as saying. If you click the little arrow next to my name in your post, you’ll see it links to this post:
Not having a case on your phone is such a poor man’s idea of wealth. Nothing against using a phone caseless, I used to do it all the time, but there are factors beyond money that go into deciding to use a case.
 
Own a modern iPhone and yes, you can "set my phone down outside on a rock without the back getting shredded." It is fine to want to spend more to buy cases because one likes the look of cases (not me) or the feel of cases (not me) or the extra volume taken by cases (not me) but stop with the claims that newer iPhones self-destruct with basic usage.

Agreed older iPhones were more susceptible to damage and demanded cases or careful handling. But this is now 2023.
Nothing I said was incorrect. Setting glass and metal down on hard rocks will induce scratching over time.

And while I do think iPhones are more durable now than before, Apple’s front glass is more susceptible to scratching than ever before. It’s much softer (therefore more crack resistant). The the front glass isn’t the topic of this conversation, but it’s worth me noting.
 
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"...drop a 14 Pro 200mm onto a cobbled street" is a pretty specific extra-hard usage case. Of course a 2 meter (6.6 feet) drop to land a flat phone face on a protruding piece of granite will likely damage a phone. However, that described level of extreme abuse does not lead to "how easy these phones smash."
I wouldn’t say that is extra-hard usage at all. 200mm is not 2 metres, it’s 0.2m (7.87”). The lad was sat on a curb, spinning his iPhone between his fingers and it slipped onto the cobbled street. The smallest of drops and he had a shattered back-glass. It was a purple iPhone 14 Pro too so rather costly. I’m sure a phone doesn’t shatter every time it gets dropped as it depends on the contact and on which point the phone hits first.

Normal hard usage (my iPhones get dropped on to concrete on occasion; typically 4 feet not 6+ feet and typically flat concrete not harder, protruding cobbles) does not lead to "replacing my phone every other week." The worst that has happened so far is a small bit of scuffing on the edge. I could fix that by smoothing with emery paper if I cared but I don't.
You say you often drop your phone 4 feet onto concrete and it hasn’t broken, but whether a phone breaks or not is purely down to luck. I regularly drop my iPhone and often on tarmac or on a porcelain floor in my house. I might get lucky and it might not break, but I can’t be bothered taking the risk. My comment about replacing my phone every other week was purely judged on how often I drop the thing. I prefer a case for grip, drop protection, aesthetics and to disguise the phone a bit so it’s not immediately obvious it’s an iPhone. Everybody has different preferences.
 
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I’ve started seeing less and less cases out in the wild. My family and I use the carved live edge cases which retail $189. They’re slim but gorgeous. I’m good with that. Protects enough as well while looking like a piece of art
You can have them. Yikes. I hadn’t heard of them before and now I see why…
 
People should stop worrying about trends or "status symbols", and just think for themselves if they want to use something or not. You might like cases, I don't like cases, both of our opinions are valid.
Utility > status, always.

Goes for phones, cars, etc. Everything.

Ask my well-off family member whose favorite car is their ~20 year old work truck. Hand cranked windows!
 
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I prefer a caseless phone on aesthetic levels and I used to go caseless, but I've come to use a case because without one, my phone is at risk of being seriously damaged if it falls, and just in a day-to-day sense, my phone isn't constantly slipping out of pockets anymore. The turning point was when my phone slipped out of a pair of track pants I was wearing while on a Lyft ride and I spent hours using Find My and making calls to Lyft and communicating with my friend who'd ordered the ride to get my phone back (which I did in the end), but all of that could've been prevented with a case.

Yeah, it sucks to cover up the cool new color of the phone with a case, but it's just so much more practical in every way. Maybe I'll go caseless again, but it certainly won't be for "stealth wealth". I'm aware of "stealth wealth"; I grew up in an area where "moneyed" people would wear something that didn't look flashy, but those in the know would recognize as a $5000 designer jacket or whatever. I guess that's impressive to some? I don't really care.
 
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I see runners with their phablets in hand every day.

How they don't go insane is a mystery to me.

-Multi-tasking isn't actually a thing so you'll either be unable to focus on your running or music, or be too distracted by your running and holding your Pro Max to be aware of your surroundings and whatever surface you're running on.

Sweaty, wet hands will make you drop a smartphone with even the grippiest cover.

If you can afford a phablet then you can afford an Apple Watch SE at the very least. Or get some old TouchID iPhone that you can use when running, one that fits in an armband or in a pocket.

Just don't go running or workouts with your smartphone in your hand, please!
until recently I would run with my iphone 13 in my hand so the distance would track into "adventure sync" in Pokemon Go, to hatch eggs in the game and get bonuses... but with my new Apple Watch SE, in which I can actually store music.. I've decided to just abandon that on my runs.. it's not worth it. A bit irritating the game won't take the data that only the Apple Watch gives to your apple Health totals when you track a workout, that it needs the phone to track it too.. because without starting a workout it tracks it perfectly. But oh well.. game has been lackluster recently and I'm just about over it.

The freedom of just running with your watch and bluetooth earbuds is so nice. :D ... besides, iirc Apple suggests not running with anything in your hands on the running workout page on their site.
 
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