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Will you upgrade to IOS 11?

  • Yes

    Votes: 450 88.6%
  • No

    Votes: 27 5.3%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 31 6.1%

  • Total voters
    508
To you perhaps. But I put a different value on my jailbreak than you do obviously.

And I don't think my jailbreak is stupid. It allows me to do a lot of things others can't do stock.

But again, different values and perspectives.
All of those "other things" I and majority of other people can live without. I hate when people refuse to update to a new iOS update due to their jailbreak. You lose security, bug fixes, and new features when you do that.
 
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All of those "other things" I and majority of other people can live without. I hate when people refuse to update to a new iOS update due to their jailbreak. You lose security, bug fixes, and new features when you do that.
I'm sorry that bothers you, although I hardly see how what I do is relevant to your life.

In any case, what if I don't use those features? What if I'm not happy with the way Apple implements some of them? What about losing features I have that Apple does not?

What if, say I update and I lose my ability to make a phone call from the lockscreen in exchange for being stock?

Is the UI a feature? Because if I update I lose the ability to have an entirely dark UI.

From my perspective I lose a lot of 'features' I have now for not so much features I would get stock.

Stickers in iMessage is not something I'm willing to lose my jailbreak over.

That leaves security. And I won't argue the point on that. I'll just say that I'm not very interested in putting my devices into situations where compromised security might be an issue.
 
Upgraded my iPhone 7+ on Monday after the keynote. Downgraded right back to iOS 10.3.2 in 30 minutes. iOS 11 beta 1 is very very buggy. Apps crash, the UI is very slow & laggy & I have no idea how to get rid on the blank music widget on the lockscreen, it's there all the time. Maybe I'll update around beta 4 or 5 when it's a lot better.
It's buggy, but it's not very very buggy. My 7+ is running quite well on iOS 11. Did the trick of killing all apps in the app switcher, which really helps with the animation lag. Some apps aren't compatible yet, which is to be expected. Overall I'm quite liking the changes.
 
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I’m happy overall. It’s been working well on my iPhone and iPad. It gets buggy, but that’s to be expected. I don’t really care about jail breaking my phone. And I’m not going back to iOS 10.
 
Yeah. To the the others bashing my opinion.

5s : random reboots. No headset volume. Bluetooth spotty. And the new toggles are lagged out

Same with SE

6s: wifi spotty Bluetooth power cycles every mins or so. Call on speaker freezes the app and cannot open keypad


Yes I understand it’s a BETA. I’m simply giving my feedback.

Thank you. Indeed, that does sound annoying. I will wait for the regular release then.
 
I upgraded my 7 plus already, I am liking iOS 11 so far. There are a few glitches, but those will be ironed out in the next couple beta's. Only thing I don't like is the new "notification center", huge misstep in my eyes.
 
It's buggy, but it's not very very buggy. My 7+ is running quite well on iOS 11. Did the trick of killing all apps in the app switcher, which really helps with the animation lag. Some apps aren't compatible yet, which is to be expected. Overall I'm quite liking the changes.
Well that's for you. For me, its very very buggy. Maybe I'll update when the betas become more stable.
 
I upgraded 30 minutes after the keynote was over. got macOS Sierra and watchOS 4 too lol
 
Updated my 7. Surprisingly, it seems a bit faster. I haven't found it to be too buggy. You can't delete calendar entries (a problem I don't have with my iPad pro on 11). Don't have a handle on the battery life yet since I always keep it plugged in when I'm home. So far, so good.
 
I upgraded 30 minutes after the keynote was over. got macOS Sierra and watchOS 4 too lol
You're brave! I upgraded my iPad Air 2 immediately. I waited until the evening to update my iPhone 7. I'm OK with the stability of both.

I'm going to watch for another DP or two (or more) for my Watch. I really do want the new Exercise and Music features, but the inability to downgrade makes the stakes too high.

And I'll probably wait until Carbon Copy Cloner is updated (at least in beta) for High Sierra and APFS before I update my Mac mini (late 2012). (I'm not doing any Mac development at the moment, so I don't need to test.)
 
I'm sorry that bothers you, although I hardly see how what I do is relevant to your life.

In any case, what if I don't use those features? What if I'm not happy with the way Apple implements some of them? What about losing features I have that Apple does not?

What if, say I update and I lose my ability to make a phone call from the lockscreen in exchange for being stock?

Is the UI a feature? Because if I update I lose the ability to have an entirely dark UI.

From my perspective I lose a lot of 'features' I have now for not so much features I would get stock.

Stickers in iMessage is not something I'm willing to lose my jailbreak over.

That leaves security. And I won't argue the point on that. I'll just say that I'm not very interested in putting my devices into situations where compromised security might be an issue.
You can make phone calls from the lock screen with Siri. I'd be annoyed with the slower iOS 9 performance more than anything but you totally have a right to use your device the way you want to. You obviously know the risks. Don't know why he felt the need to call you or your actions stupid or dumb? :confused:
 
You can make phone calls from the lock screen with Siri. I'd be annoyed with the slower iOS 9 performance more than anything but you totally have a right to use your device the way you want to. You obviously know the risks.
Please don't take this for arguing, I'm not. Just explaining.

First, I don't have any slowness. My iPhone has been just fine and I have about 200 tweaks/apps installed. I've been doing this since iOS 5 so there's a process I have where no matter how much I want a tweak if I encounter issues it's removed. That's keep things going well.

Where the risks are concerned, yes. That's what you take on when you jailbreak as Apple is no longer protecting you. It's up to you to be careful where you go and what you do when jailbroken.

As far as Siri, I don't use it so it's not there at the lockscreen. Callbar however is. One swipe down from the top left (an action I assigned via Activator) and there we go.

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Don't know why he felt the need to call you or your actions stupid or dumb? :confused:

Some people are anti-jailbreak. They feel that if Apple doesn't allow it, it shouldn't be done. Apple doesn't discourage the common misconceptions about it either, such as jailbreaking to pirate stuff (which is not why I jailbreak).

And some just believe it's crazy to not be updated/secure. I get all that, which is why I'm not upset.
 
Please don't take this for arguing, I'm not. Just explaining.

First, I don't have any slowness. My iPhone has been just fine and I have about 200 tweaks/apps installed. I've been doing this since iOS 5 so there's a process I have where no matter how much I want a tweak if I encounter issues it's removed. That's keep things going well.

Where the risks are concerned, yes. That's what you take on when you jailbreak as Apple is no longer protecting you. It's up to you to be careful where you go and what you do when jailbroken.

As far as Siri, I don't use it so it's not there at the lockscreen. Callbar however is. One swipe down from the top left (an action I assigned via Activator) and there we go.

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Some people are anti-jailbreak. They feel that if Apple doesn't allow it, it shouldn't be done. Apple doesn't discourage the common misconceptions about it either, such as jailbreaking to pirate stuff (which is not why I jailbreak).

And some just believe it's crazy to not be updated/secure. I get all that, which is why I'm not upset.
Yeah I know, iOS 9 certainly isn't slow on the 6s, it is its native firmware after all. It's just in my experience iOS 10 is just faster in general. Doesn't matter though, it's not jailbreakable so it doesn't fit your needs anyway.
 
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Yeah I know, iOS 9 certainly isn't slow on the 6s, it is its native firmware after all. It's just in my experience iOS 10 is just faster in general. Doesn't matter though, it's not jailbreakable so it doesn't fit your needs anyway.
My iPhone 5 is on 10.3.1. I find 10 to be fairly fast, but not quite as fast as my 6s+. That's of course due to the faster processor and 2GB of ram on the plus, but 10.3.1 isn't bad at all.

That said, my 5 is a secondary phone so I'm not using it all the time.
 
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All of those "other things" I and majority of other people can live without. I hate when people refuse to update to a new iOS update due to their jailbreak. You lose security, bug fixes, and new features when you do that.

What difference does it make for you, though?

iOS 10 has introduced all kinds of issues for me. 9.3 was rock solid and I'd have stayed with it had it not required a full restore that forced me up to iOS 10.
 
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iPhone 7 will run iOS 11 final perfectly, its the first major update for the device.

The first beta is the first beta, performance can't be taken as standard or indicative of the final build.

There's noticeable delay on the 7 when tapping an icon and the app opening animation starting, but it'll all be ironed out through the betas, although knowing Apple we won't see iOS 11 at its best until iOS 11.3 next March.
 
updated iPad, iPhone and watch

iPad, perfect
iPhone, perfect except for the fact that I can't control music using my car's infotainment system now
watch, perfect

best beta 1 I've seen. I love the new screenshot feature
 
updated iPad, iPhone and watch

iPad, perfect
iPhone, perfect except for the fact that I can't control music using my car's infotainment system now
watch, perfect

best beta 1 I've seen. I love the new screenshot feature

All subjective.

The fastest iPhone available today has noticeable delay between pressing an app to open it and the animation starting to open the app.

But it's beta 1, it'll get better.
 
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I will update as I always do, the day it's released to everyone. Never have I ever had any problems with early adoption, but obviously I always take the necessary precautions in case something does go wrong.

Same with macOS and tvOS.
 
What difference does it make for you, though?

iOS 10 has introduced all kinds of issues for me. 9.3 was rock solid and I'd have stayed with it had it not required a full restore that forced me up to iOS 10.

Because people who refuse to update (opening security holes) don't just affect themselves, it has the ability to hurt many many others.
 
iPhone 7 will run iOS 11 final perfectly, its the first major update for the device.

The first beta is the first beta, performance can't be taken as standard or indicative of the final build.

There's noticeable delay on the 7 when tapping an icon and the app opening animation starting, but it'll all be ironed out through the betas, although knowing Apple we won't see iOS 11 at its best until iOS 11.3 next March.
Imagine an Iphone 7 running iOS 14 in 2020.
 
Yeah. To the the others bashing my opinion.

5s : random reboots. No headset volume. Bluetooth spotty. And the new toggles are lagged out

Same with SE

6s: wifi spotty Bluetooth power cycles every mins or so. Call on speaker freezes the app and cannot open keypad


Yes I understand it’s a BETA. I’m simply giving my feedback.
There’s a place for your feedback:

https://radar.apple.com

Sign in and report the bugs, they made the process more intuitive.

I’m not saying this to be dismissive, Apple actually wants feedback so please do report every little problem you have so we have a good production build.
 
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Because people who refuse to update (opening security holes) don't just affect themselves, it has the ability to hurt many many others.

Perhaps in rare cases. iOS is pretty sealed tight by now. Most of the new security issues arise from implementing new features, many of which people didn't want in the first place.

Maybe security fixes should be separate, then, because a lot of people don't want to ruin their devices with updates that are either buggy, slow, or unfavorably change the features.
 
Perhaps in rare cases. iOS is pretty sealed tight by now. Most of the new security issues arise from implementing new features, many of which people didn't want in the first place.

Maybe security fixes should be separate, then, because a lot of people don't want to ruin their devices with updates that are either buggy, slow, or unfavorably change the features.

I think 2 update tracks (one full, one jus security fixes) would be an awesome thing, but unfortunately it probably will never happen...
 
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