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California

macrumors 68040
Aug 21, 2004
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AGoglanian said:
i think it was great to see the emacs in so many schools though. despite how we may feel about them ;)

Yeah, someone should mod a fast eMac into a G3 iMac case. That'd be worth it.
 

milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
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quagmire said:
1. Integrated graphics. WTF Apple? You got cheap on us? I can understand the Mac Mini some what since the trade off was the 2nd ram slot. But the Macbook? Psssh. If I am going to spend $1K+ on a computer let alone a laptop I want a dedicated GPU! At least Apple is forcing me to buy the MBP and getting more money from me those evil people.

Some of us buyers WANT cheap. I bought a mini. I don't really plan on playing games, and I'd rather have it be cheaper than pay for features I won't use.
 

EGT

macrumors 68000
Sep 4, 2003
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My Tiger installation seems to have a fair few niggling but minor bugs. Things like bluetooth menu icon continually disappearing, speaker balance keeps changing etc. I hope things like this are not passed onto 10.5.

They're a little slow with software/application updates but I'm hoping this is because they're busy tying up loose ends and developing new things for Leopard.
 

technicolor

macrumors 68000
Dec 21, 2005
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The only thing I dont like about Apple is the way they release products. But after coming to macrumors its alot easier to time your purchases.
 

thegreatluke

macrumors 6502a
Dec 29, 2005
649
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Earth
My MacBook Pro.

They forgot to fix the thing they were supposed to fix and the computer was out for ten days.

I'm dropping it off again tonight before I leave on vacation. Hopefully it'll be fixed by the time I get back (seven days).

And their failure to acknowledge some of their mistakes, like the whine (they have admitted it, but very late).

The last thing would have to be how they dropped an S-Video adapter in the MBP so I have to buy an S-Video adapter. But that's a very minor problem.
 

ZoomZoomZoom

macrumors 6502a
May 2, 2005
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I would like to see an AppleCare for cosmetic defects. Staining(pitting) on my PB is going to drive me insane.

Mighty Mouse is no good. Some interesting stuff, but ultimately form stomped over function.

Expensive RAM. I'll pay a premium for "Apple Ram" just to have it nice and installed for me, and so AppleCare doesn't get on my back about it - but the current premiums are ridiculous.

Ever since switching to Apple, my work productivity has dropped because I read sties like MacRumors. Then with the little money I make, I go buy shiny things from Apple. It's a vicious progression.
 

LoveMacMini

macrumors regular
Jul 30, 2006
155
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All stlye, zero practicality, with the exception of the new Mac Pro, the pictures of that things insides would make any engineer cum.

Seriously they should be easier for users to service themselves, and be more durable. COUGH THINKPAD COUGH
 

GooMan

macrumors regular
May 8, 2006
207
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USA
1) By far my biggest complaint is the lack of a "real" 2 button mouse and/or trackpad. Although I have gotten used to the 2-fingers-on-the-trackpad-right-click-cludge they came up with. :rolleyes:

2) The lack of product between the iMac and the MacPro. There are alot of people who would like a new desktop machine but don't want a built-in monitor to come with it. So its either a Mini or the huge jump to the Pro.

3) No Apple Store within 3 hours of me. :(
 

milozauckerman

macrumors 6502
Jun 25, 2005
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1. form overriding function

2. aesthetics - oooh, white plastic. That's just better in every way than, uh, black and gray plastic.

3. the cult

4. useless new features of OSes. I want something stripped down that just works. I don't need Dashboard or Time Machine or Stationery or making Mail into a bad imitation of MS Outlook circa 1975.

5. Rigidly controlled product lines, introductions, etc. - I want to be sold a product that will be used. I do not need to be sold a lifestyle. White earbuds are not my life.

6. Branding - the 1984 ad is ironic given that Apple has taken branding and groupthink to scary, scary levels that turn me off.

7. the hardware tax - I know, I know, someone will say that the prices are fine for equivalent products (partially true), but that's the thing: Apple only has two real desktops. There are no 'equivalents' to a mid-range or upper-mid range PC, so you're forced to shell out more for features you don't need to get the few you do.

8. 'the Genius Bar' - why always staffed with morons?

9. Applecare.

10. Qaulity control, quality control, quality control and a systemic refusal to admit to problems that exist.

11. Apple Stores only appear in the yuppiest of neighborhoods. I'd browse your wares far more often if it didn't require spending time in gentrification city, Steve-O.

There are more. I dislike more about Apple than I like about it, but I'll put up with it because Windows gets in my way a helluva lot more and Linux doesn't do what I need.

This, of course, is why all the fanboy dreams of a user-installable OS X (allowing Apple to TAKE OVER THE WORLD with OS market share) would never work - because Apple hardware wouldn't sell.
 

gadgetgirl85

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2006
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GooMan said:
1) By far my biggest complaint is the lack of a "real" 2 button mouse and/or trackpad. Although I have gotten used to the 2-fingers-on-the-trackpad-right-click-cludge they came up with. :rolleyes:

2) The lack of product between the iMac and the MacPro. There are alot of people who would like a new desktop machine but don't want a built-in monitor to come with it. So its either a Mini or the huge jump to the Pro.

3) No Apple Store within 3 hours of me. :(

I agree with the second one!
 

_Matt

macrumors 6502
Aug 24, 2005
440
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Cheaply built mice. :mad:

My Mighty Mouse feels like it came for free with a happy meal. :mad:
 

Mackilroy

macrumors 601
Jun 29, 2006
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milozauckerman said:
1. form overriding function

My iBook, iMac and MacBook are quite functional, thank you.

milozauckerman said:
2. aesthetics - oooh, white plastic. That's just better in every way than, uh, black and gray plastic.

How does this matter? Who cares what colors they are?

milozauckerman said:
3. the cult

What cult?

milozauckerman said:
4. useless new features of OSes. I want something stripped down that just works. I don't need Dashboard or Time Machine or Stationery or making Mail into a bad imitation of MS Outlook circa 1975.

Useless to you. When you become the majority of Apple's users, then they might listen.

milozauckerman said:
5. Rigidly controlled product lines, introductions, etc. - I want to be sold a product that will be used. I do not need to be sold a lifestyle. White earbuds are not my life.

You're buying a product and the 'lifestyle.' And you don't have to use the white earbuds, you know. Third-party ones do work.

milozauckerman said:
6. Branding - the 1984 ad is ironic given that Apple has taken branding and groupthink to scary, scary levels that turn me off.

So you expect them to become generic and bland?

milozauckerman said:
7. the hardware tax - I know, I know, someone will say that the prices are fine for equivalent products (partially true), but that's the thing: Apple only has two real desktops. There are no 'equivalents' to a mid-range or upper-mid range PC, so you're forced to shell out more for features you don't need to get the few you do.

If you can come up with a machine for Apple that won't cannabalize iMac or Mac Pro sales, I'm sure they'd love to have it.

milozauckerman said:
8. 'the Genius Bar' - why always staffed with morons?

Morons? Evidence? Maybe just the staff at your Apple Store aren't that smart. But, of course, if it's like that at your store, obviously it's like that at every store, right? </sarcasm>

milozauckerman said:
9. Applecare.

What about it? When my iPod died, I sent it back to AppleCare and got a brand-new one in less than a week. Quick, fast service, no questions asked.

milozauckerman said:
10. Qaulity control, quality control, quality control and a systemic refusal to admit to problems that exist.

Apple has excellent quality control. The 'problems' you refer to have been blown extremely out of proportion. It's not that they don't exist, it's just that they don't exist to the extent the Internet makes it appear.

milozauckerman said:
11. Apple Stores only appear in the yuppiest of neighborhoods. I'd browse your wares far more often if it didn't require spending time in gentrification city, Steve-O.

Waaah, waaah waaah. Maybe you should contact Apple and ask them to put a store in a ghetto. Will that work for you?

What's Apple's real problem? Being made up of fallable humans, just like every other corporation on Earth.
 

baleensavage

macrumors 6502a
Aug 2, 2005
622
0
On an island in Maine
milozauckerman said:
4. useless new features of OSes. I want something stripped down that just works.
I have to agree on this one. In a lot of ways I actually like 10.3 better than 10.4 for this reason. While some of 10.4's features are great (I do like Dashboard, but could easily live without it), it seems like some of the quality control went out the window. I would like to see more of the "rock-soild" and less of the flashy new features.
 

LoveMacMini

macrumors regular
Jul 30, 2006
155
0
baleensavage said:
I have to agree on this one. In a lot of ways I actually like 10.3 better than 10.4 for this reason. While some of 10.4's features are great (I do like Dashboard, but could easily live without it), it seems like some of the quality control went out the window. I would like to see more of the "rock-soild" and less of the flashy new features.

Let's be serious, from a company who shows off Core Animation as a feature, you know they care about making their OS the shinnest of the land.
 

Keebler

macrumors 68030
Jun 20, 2005
2,961
207
Canada
2 things:

1. can't buy tv shows in any other country yet

2. they keep innovating incredible products which make me want to sell my current macs to get the latest :) lol
 

baleensavage

macrumors 6502a
Aug 2, 2005
622
0
On an island in Maine
Mackilroy said:
If you can come up with a machine for Apple that won't cannabalize iMac or Mac Pro sales, I'm sure they'd love to have it.

Waaah, waaah waaah. Maybe you should contact Apple and ask them to put a store in a ghetto. Will that work for you?

Actually milozauckerman has good points on both of these. If Apple really wants to increase their market share they need a midrange desktop. All-in-ones and compact computers just don't cut it for everyone. I have no interest in an iMac and in no way can I afford a MacPro, nor do I need that kind of processing power. Its all about upgradability. I want a computer that I can expand, put a couple of hard drives in, throw in some PCI cards, but I dont need a 3 ghz Xeon.

As for the Apple stores, the nearest one to me is 5 hours away. Enough said.

Most of the other stuff I disagree with, but those points do have validity.
 
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