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generik

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Aug 5, 2005
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Blue Velvet said:
Neither. It still easily holds its own for what it was designed to do... i.e. manipulate graphics for press faster than I can operate the keyboard. Why replace what works?

Indeed, by that logic why does anyone ever get anything new? 56K modems transmit HTML faster than I can read them.. decade old cars travel faster than I can walk. Of course it still does what it was originally designed to do. Lest you didn't notice, things change.

Blue Velvet said:
Show me this magical 1ghz Pentium III that will cut through Creative Suite work, thanks.

You mentioned PCs. So... not workstations? You are comparing a Dell to what's potentially SMP dual processor Mac? Hello?

I don't see very many workstations with real mainboards, real ECC memory, need a lot of "fixing" by IT or otherwise. Some things are built to be reliable, some are built to be crap. You get what you pay for, remember?

Similarly, yes, I am very curious to see what kind of G4 you have from 4 years back that'd outclass a P3 that significantly. You do realise that even our new Yonah chips are really rehashes on the old design right? Oh, and while you are on it, how much did your G4 cost you back in the day again?

While on it... Photoshop. Pray tell, what does PS CS give you that PS6 can't give? After all when Photoshop was first released, it certainly does do what it was designed for too!
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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They don't take feedback very well. Listen to your consumers and give them some of what they want. Macs used to be much more customizable. When they went all iLife and stuff, they made it easy to use, which in a way made it harder for those of us who knew what we were doing to have things the way we like it. It took them till iPhoto 6 to allow us to keep our library organized the way we want it rather than their wacko system.

One thing I've wanted to see for a while is an improvement to iTunes. I have over 400 artists in my library and thus on my 40GB iPod. Give me the option of designating favorite artists, so I can have a menu of them to scroll through rather than all 400+. Likewise, let me designate my favorite songs by each artist, that way when I go into any artist I see ALL, MIX, and then each album. I don't want to make an artist specific playlist for each artist with a lot of songs, but I don't want to listen to ALL either. Playlists should be kept for just mixes of a lot of different artists. I have enough of them that I don't want more just to accomodate artists too.
 

bbrosemer

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Jan 28, 2006
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roland.g said:
They don't take feedback very well. Listen to your consumers and give them some of what they want. Macs used to be much more customizable. When they went all iLife and stuff, they made it easy to use, which in a way made it harder for those of us who knew what we were doing to have things the way we like it. It took them till iPhoto 6 to allow us to keep our library organized the way we want it rather than their wacko system.

One thing I've wanted to see for a while is an improvement to iTunes. I have over 400 artists in my library and thus on my 40GB iPod. Give me the option of designating favorite artists, so I can have a menu of them to scroll through rather than all 400+. Likewise, let me designate my favorite songs by each artist, that way when I go into any artist I see ALL, MIX, and then each album. I don't want to make an artist specific playlist for each artist with a lot of songs, but I don't want to listen to ALL either. Playlists should be kept for just mixes of a lot of different artists. I have enough of them that I don't want more just to accomodate artists too.
Its called a smart playlist but you need to do the work and rate the songs that you like ...
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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bbrosemer said:
Its called a smart playlist but you need to do the work and rate the songs that you like ...

I know how smart playlists work. I don't want artist specific playlists. I want playlists reserved for mixes of artists. And then a mix album listed in each artist based on selected songs. They could add a column or something to choose those songs. Likewise I want to designate favorite artists and have that as a menu in my iPod so I don't have to scroll through all of them. I don't think it's a lot to ask.
 

Blue Velvet

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Jul 4, 2004
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generik said:
...I am very curious to see what kind of G4 you have from 4 years back that'd outclass a P3 that significantly... Oh, and while you are on it, how much did your G4 cost you back in the day again?


Home machine: G4 1.42 dual, 2Gbs RAM, dedicated scratch drives... I'll leave it to you to find the benchmarks since you bought the comparison up.

As to what it cost, well... prices here in the UK for any Mac including a national 17.5% sales tax make any comparison with US prices for PCs a fruitless comparison. I have no idea what comparative PCs cost in the UK at the time... Why? Because no print designer worth their salt uses a PC.

We use Pentium IIIs with 1.5gb of RAM running Win2000 in the office for internal correspondence that struggle with running two or more Office apps with IE and Adobe Reader open. :rolleyes:


generik said:
Pray tell, what does PS CS give you that PS6 can't give?

Let alone the obvious that PS6 is a OS9 app and as well as other feature revisions including huge improvements working in 16-bit; if you haven't used the Creative Suite in a networked environment, then I'm wasting my breath.
 

WannabeMacUser

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Jun 29, 2006
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They dont make very precise tech specs. My White G5 30gig iPod for example, only lives for about 7 hours and holds just over 4000 songs.

'Insanely Great'.

Teh ads annoy the living crap out of me 'Macs are better because ou can edit pictures, play music, video'. ANY COMPUTER CAN DO THAT.

Their prices are Insanely great too....

So yeah I would like to buy a mac just to try out and master teh OS X. But all these people going around blowing Apple's horn is kinda annoying 'You're a PC user you suck. Macs pwn PC's n00b'

Most games are playable with only BootCamp.

User-friendly... My friend's 15-inch powerbook crashes.

Blizzard games are probably the only games for mac. I wish there was more choice. But I love Blizzard though.
 

Queso

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Mar 4, 2006
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WannabeMacUser said:
But all these people going around blowing Apple's horn is kinda annoying 'You're a PC user you suck. Macs pwn PC's n00b'
That's so funny. I remember a few years ago when it was totally the other way. Funny how a few years under Stevie J and Stevie B can reverse perceptions :)
 

Obsidian6

macrumors 6502a
Apr 29, 2006
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Laguna Niguel, CA
I guess i'm just special or something, but i have been blessed with exceptional apple service.

yes i have had a couple hardware issues ( bad LCD on my PB, 2 bad processors and power supply on my refurb G5 ) but both times i went to my local apple store, they took care of me right there on the spot, very kind and courteous and prompt.

even last night, i was in the store near the genius bar, someone wasn't showing up for their genius bar appt. so the guy asked me if i had any questions he could answer, and i JUST so happened to have quite the question for him.

he helped me find a solution and showed me online where i could get it within 5 mins.

no company on this planet is without its quirks or flaws. as a photographer, i appreciate the computers apple offers me, as they make my job a whole lot easier. mind you, i only switched in 2004, but in all honesty, i'm glad i did. If i had to do business or something like that, i probably would still use a PC, but im not, i work in a creative field, and apple products work for me.

i have no favoritism for either platform, just a preference.
shouldn't you use what makes you happy? If apple's products or methods irritate you or upset you, then why subject yourself to that? This is a computer we're talking about, an inanimate object. Does it really matter that much?



( please take anything i ever say with a grain of salt, i mean no offense to anyone )
 

FleurDuMal

macrumors 68000
May 31, 2006
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London Town
milo said:
So why are you still spending time on Apple message boards?

So s/he can adopt the sneering, superior attitude s/he has done, dismissing (the majority of) people who buy Macs as 'zealots' and viewing himself/herself as somehow 'enlightened' because s/he remembered to consider a PC before making any purchase (as practically everyone on here probably did anyway) :rolleyes:
 

odedia

macrumors 65816
Nov 24, 2005
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That pages, keynote and lots of stuff in Mac OS X doesn't support right to left languages, and that there isn't a normal framework for building bi-directional software (Sadly, Windows had it since Windows 95).
 

imacintel

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Mar 12, 2006
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HardLine said:
Gauchogolfer: these are my observations about the Mac community. Winblowz, Microsoft is evil, if apple release anything it’s amazing, I hear these things regularly and it’s quite discouraging. The term zealot shouldn’t be used lightly. The ThinkPad’s we got from newegg, it was a small start up web hosting company, not an official business per say.

My brother on the other hand, he manages about 100 IBM data centers at his job, in NYC. Whenever anything goes wrong, they usually show up in 6 hours or less. That’s the premium service lol!

EDIT: Of course I say some bad things and I'm getting torn a new anal sphincter, like I said if you want to "battle it out" just PM me.

Why do I stick here? Because not everyone here is blind. There are some users on here I love! Most importantly I feel that OS X has the potential to be something fantastic as soon as they get rid of all the little quirks. So it's going to be fun watching OS X thru time, and talking with the community about the new features it gets.

Go away. Now. You don't belong here.:rolleyes: :mad:
 

jsw

Moderator emeritus
Mar 16, 2004
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Andover, MA
Jiddick ExRex said:
Isn't it a little doublestandards to ban him for sharing his own personal views?
He was banned for reregistering after being banned for other reasons previously. Had he not been so vocal, he might not have been discovered.
 

Obsidian6

macrumors 6502a
Apr 29, 2006
683
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Laguna Niguel, CA
some people just dont know when not to speak ;)

and, like others said. why on earth would you come here only to rag on apple and its community? sure we are all entitled to our own views, but you have to draw the line somewhere. it's called respect.
 

CANEHDN

macrumors 6502a
Dec 12, 2005
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Eagle Mountain, UT
That stupid Mighty Mouse. In my opinion, one of the dumbest things they make. Can't they just accept the fact that not everything has to be "different". They need to make a good mouse like the Logitech one for the Mac. An apple keyboard that is split wouldn't be a bad thing either. Their full sized keyboards are still a little too compact for me.
 

quagmire

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Apr 19, 2004
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1. Integrated graphics. WTF Apple? You got cheap on us? I can understand the Mac Mini some what since the trade off was the 2nd ram slot. But the Macbook? Psssh. If I am going to spend $1K+ on a computer let alone a laptop I want a dedicated GPU! At least Apple is forcing me to buy the MBP and getting more money from me those evil people.

2. The new Mac names. Macbook, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro? Horrible names. I will forever call them the iBook, Powerbook, and Powermac.
 

California

macrumors 68040
Aug 21, 2004
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The only thing I don't like about Apple?

That I think about my macs too much and go on MR too much!

I love Apple.

Love Applecare.

Mac products are worth every penny.

Soon when the masses catch on to this, Dell will be toast because Macs can run Windoze and OSX...

Love Apple. Start a thread about what we love about Mac and you'll have an endless thread.

Only Mac I didn't like was the eMac but that's snobbery on my part that they were just good machines in ugly boxes.
 
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