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True. My iBook G3s and iMac G3s were all heavily modified due to the ability to get inside. New HDs, upgraded optical drives, upgraded RAM, soldered overclocking of the chips for more speed.

imagine trying to overclock anything with solder now?

Imagine thinking an overclock will keep a modern system relevant for longer.

It's not 1987 anymore. Mac or PC, when they get old they get old. Someone splurging for a 3.5GHz chip over a 2GHz unit isn't going to see anything markedly better for longevity - and with CPU designs as complex as they are, it's no longer the era of "well all the chips are the same but we speed dumped some of them and, if you're lucky, you can tweak the multiplier and run faster".
 
Compare a Macintosh LCII to todays mac mini or iMac and the repairability and disassembly ease are night and day. Its shocking how easy it is to disassemble an old macintosh! You could have the logic board out in 2 minutes. Todays Mac Mini is a horrible device for repairs and upgrading it is out the question.
All well and good, but if you consider that the LCII went to market for 1700 bucks of 1992 money, which is roughly 3.5 grand today, you gotta see how that comparision is somewhat skewed. A cynic could pose: To hell with RTR if I can afford 5 computers for the price of one (plus the mini is arguably more capable today than the LCII for 1992 standards)

Could Apple make devices more serviceable? Yes. Would that cost them revenue? Hell yes. Would that be reflected in the price of new devices? You bet. Sure, Apple is unreasonably profitable. And sure, Apple could sell devices for cheaper and/or make them more servicable and still turn a profit. But their fiduciary responsibility is with their shareholders, not their customer.

I really get how RTR gets people excited and their hopes up they might be getting back to the good days of old where they could take their TV to the shop around the corner and get a second lease of life on it, and that's the reason I'll hold on to my fairly repairable SE2020.

But I think RTR will not have the effect that people cheering for it think it'll have. Apple or any other company will not magically make more servicable devices and not factor that into their profit margins. I really am all in favor of devices being repairable and upgradeable as much as possible. I'm far from thinking a multi trillion dollar company has my best interests at heart. I'm just afraid doing it via legislation is not gonna change things the way people think it will.

Plus, as always: Apple isn't a monopoly (albeit coming close to in some markets in some countries ....). You can go and buy a Framework and swap components willy nilly all day long. There are several android phones that have fairly good to outright excellent repairability. Same goes for tablets. I don't see people buying those in droves, despite them usually being much more affordable and clearly easier to service. And no, it's not all image and marketing.
 
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lol always complaining, even after Apple pushes for right to repair themselves.

go ahead, add more and more regulation and see what happens to the price tag. I'm sure it'll make everything cheaper, right?

what a bunch of dumb ****ers. ifixit still mad apple banned them from the App Store probably
Prices are going up either way, we might as well get some consumer benefits along the way.

I get that not everyone cares about repairability, but surely you should at least be able to understand that devices that are easier to maintain are better than ones that aren't, right?
 
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Compare a Macintosh LCII to todays mac mini or iMac and the repairability and disassembly ease are night and day. Its shocking how easy it is to disassemble an old macintosh! You could have the logic board out in 2 minutes. Todays Mac Mini is a horrible device for repairs and upgrading it is out the question.
How big is that thing and it was a tinker toy anyway right. These are really complicated appliances and we also live in a very insecure environment.
 
What if I told you engineers could engineer a device that was fixable without sacrificing any of its great attributes for the same price?
lmao someone didn't read the article.

if a component commonly breaks and is required to be readily available and replaceable, no matter how good an engineer is, Apple required to hold inventory of a new particular part will be infinitely more costly than not having to deal with that particular part.

you're just flat out 100% incorrect.
 
Hey FTC read this…

Manufacturers should also provide a final operating system update, the full OS image and required upgrade tools to untie the device from its activation server once they decide to shutdown the activation services for the affected device. Simply to allow the customer to reset, restore, reinstall it anytime, otherwise this won’t be possible.


And add by customer or repair shop replaceable, expandable RAM and HardDiskDrive to the list. 😄
 
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How does a common user extend the life of a computer? You upgrade the primary and secondary memory, and graphics. As SoC has everything built in, and NAND chips are soldered in MacBooks are not repair friendly.

Government’s should force manufacturers to give options for consumers to add extra RAM and storage afterwards like in the past.
 
Right to repair....well to me its not the most important thing. Important yes, but the most important would be to have a much more reasonable warranty period and that's not just for Apple.

For items costing thousands of dollars a 12 month warranty is just pathetic.

Should be more like 5 years.

Manufacturers should have the confidence their devices will last 5 years, whereby a 5 year warranty shouldn't worry them, and not a warranty with small print caveats to abrogate their responsibilities whatever goes wrong.

iFixit may be pushing on right to repair...why wouldn't they?

But its lack of proper warranties that is paramount.
 
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