Trust me, I want to make it work with the iPP. The SP4 is not a bad device but based on all the recent reviews, it's buggy, and the battery life isn't nearly as good.
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iPad Pro I'm returning my iPad pro... [MERGED]
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Trust me, I want to make it work with the iPP. The SP4 is not a bad device but based on all the recent reviews, it's buggy, and the battery life isn't nearly as good.
Well, as far as keyboard goes, have you considered using a Bluetooth keyboard, or do you need it to be in one unit?
I need it to be one unit. Sadly, the SP4, IMO, is the new gold standard when it comes to tablet/productivity devices. Bluetooth keyboards do the job, but I want to take advantage of the iPP port and not have to worry about battery drain usage and having to recharge the keyboard.
More importantly, I want a keyboard that is lightweight and also serves as a protective cover.
More importantly, I want a keyboard that is lightweight and also serves as a protective cover.
A Bluetooth keyboard needs to be recharged, what, once a month? Once every few months?
If you get the new Apple Bluetooth keyboard, it's so light, I think it's nearly as light as the iPad Pro keyboard cover. If you want a cover for your iPP get the Smart Cover. Unless you need to type on your lap, I think the Bluetooth works as well or maybe even better than the keyboard cover.
True. So let me ask you. Do you know of any bluetooth keyboards that are lightweight, provides multiple viewing angles, and can be used as a protective cover?
I look at the SP4, and think to myself, why can't we have a keyboard cover like that?
What do the bezels have to do anything with the keyboard? It sucks that Apple doesn't have a solid keyboard out there.
Because the keyboard is able to be at an angle because of the magnets that attach to the bezels. That's one of biggest problems with the ASK. The cloth keyboard has some switch mechanism. It's the angle that isn't there.
Well, the SP4 keyboard cover doesn't actually provide multiple viewing ankles -- the kickstand isn't part of the keyboard, is it? And we can't have a kickstand on the iPP because Jony Ive won't allow it.
As I said elsewhere, the Apple Bluetooth keyboard is almost as light as the keyboard cover, and I've found that being able to position the iPP separately from the keyboard makes multiple viewing angles almost unnecessary.
In the end, no product is going to fit our needs 100%. You need to decide which compromises you are willing to make to get the best out of your devices.
In my opinion, apples smart keyboard was made because of convenience. In my experience with many mobile keyboards, this is the quickest keyboard that I can attach and detach with ease and quickness, the limited angles are not a worry for me because the angle that it does have fits most people's needs. Some of the people like you guys who have complaints are better off with a simple unattached bluetooth keyboard.
I couldn't disagree more!
It feels light to me and browsing is a breeze it seems to lay easier on my lap. This iPad is extremely immersive
If your intentions on buying a SP3 or SP4 is to use as a tablet, it fails highly in that regard. Win10 still has weird quirks in tablet mode and the MS app store is still garbage. I bought one for xmas. Going back to best buy. As a portable laptop for someone who needs this; it will be amazing with some tablet stuff on the side. If you plan to use as a ipad air/pro the Surface Pro line severely disappoints.
Need to Add- I have a decent desktop at home and work in IT so i also have access to a SP3 at work i can use, i just really wanted one i could call my own. Also..i REALLY missed not having facetime/immesage. I may be considering a refreshed retina mac. Should be getting updates this year for sure.
My recommendation for all future pro owners and current pro owners is that you should also have a smaller tablet on hand because the iPad pro is not one of those tablets that you can move around with. In other words, keep your air 2 or mini as well because they will still get used for their amazing portability. I use my ipad pro as a laptop replacement and for productivity reasons. There are instances where I'm simply moving around the kitchen where I cannot reasonably hold the pro while doing other things. The pro is a very large tablet and can get in the way. I have my smaller tablet for this and I knew before buying my pro that I will still need a more portable tablet as well. My ipad pro is my sit down tablet. If I'm lounging on the couch or sitting at a table, most likely I'm using my pro. If I'm in bed, I have my smaller tablet.
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I agreed, I had SP3 i7/256 model which I sold and got the iPP. SP3 is nice as ultra portable laptop. As a tablet, SP3 is just okay. Mainly the apps weren't there to support it. The only good experience I had with SP3 was using MS Edge for web browsing, and that was it. I went and got the IPP 128wifi. The IPP was nice and super fast. I ended up returning it as well. I really like the IPP, and again the apps were not optimized for it. At least, not at the moment. Most apps I used look awful. I ended up using it for just Safari for web browsing, which was great. So, I picked up the rMB which was relatively the same price. The rMP was excellent, super portable and very well built. Downside, very sloooow. I ended up returning that as well. I will stick with iPad Air 2 and my MBPr 15 for now. I am sure and hoping some time next year, IPP will have most apps optimized for its screen size. Then I will pick one up or rMP get new refresh CPU. These two will be my top two to choose. All in all, IPP lacks optimized apps. rMP lacks the horse power.
Not my experience. I have a rMP 1.3GHZ and I don't find it slow at all. I did own the 1.1ghz version, which I didn't find slow, but traded it for the faster one.....just to be sure
Which apps looked awful to you? On my iPad Pro, I've used Dropbox, Pages, Fandango, Netflix, a few games... They all looked fine to me.
Not my experience. I have a rMP 1.3GHZ and I don't find it slow at all. I did own the 1.1ghz version, which I didn't find slow, but traded it for the faster one.....just to be sure
I picked up the 1.1ghz base model during BB big sale. I am coming from rMBP 15 i7/512 and iMac 5k system. I guess, I am used to the performance of the iCPU. When I am on the rMB, it was just not there for me. I understand that I can't compare rMB to those systems. The thing is: I have 2010 MBA 13 also, the rMB is not any better than my 5 years old MBA minus the screen. I will wait and see when Apple refresh the rMB.
The Apple apps were optimized for the IPP, that I agreed. I don't remember exactly which list of apps were not, the two I remembered are tapatalk and BaconReader. Basically, fonts was just big on IPP for those apps that were not optimized, it was like you zoomed in.
I don't know, the weight and size of the device felt a little cumbersome at first, but after a few weeks of dedicated use I've pretty much acclimated to it and it's not a problem at all. The benefits of the bigger size so far outweigh any weight or footprint annoyances. This is by far the most enjoyable and flexible iPad to use and I haven't reached for my Air at all since getting the Pro. The Pro is still very small and easy to stow and I've found comfortable ways to use it in pretty much any scenario - even 1 handed use I've adjusted. I do think it's important to find as light a case as possible though, im amazed people tolerate a total of 3+ lbs on their iPads.
Frankly this is my favorite iOS device ever. It just really shines and everything seemed to have converged brilliantly on this thing as far as iOS 9, the size, the speedy hardware and big memory, and the Pencil. So many little details too, like the utter lack of any parallax. It really feels like you're touching/writing RIGHT on the display.
Frankly this is my favorite iOS device ever. It just really shines and everything seemed to have converged brilliantly on this thing as far as iOS 9, the size, the speedy hardware and big memory, and the Pencil. So many little details too, like the utter lack of any parallax. It really feels like you're touching/writing RIGHT on the display.
I'm telling you the full story. I was very careful with it. Google it. Seems those buttons have been a problem with Apple tablets for years now.
I'd still like to upgrade my two Samsung Tab S2's when something better comes along. Main thing i miss about the Ipad Pro is the great audio. Apple also worked better with my banking program and the fingerprint detector was much better than my Samsungs. Main thing i miss least is the onscreen keyboard, not that Adroid is that much better!
After playing with a 12.9, which I really wanted to like; I find it too big to walk about with and fit safely in my bags. I worry it will bend etc.
So it’s going back and I’ll swap it to the 11 iPP
So it’s going back and I’ll swap it to the 11 iPP
that the point if you need it on the go then buy the 11" I personally use it in my home its more comfortable sitting on the couch then my MBP 15" and if I go somewhere and take it then it stationary again
I am also becoming used to the 12.9 2018 vs. my traded in 10.5. I did pick up one of those lap pillow tablet holders for the couch. Also a TwelveSouth Compass Pro. I can still simply use it “naked” or with the Apple keyboard folio or plain folio without the any fuss. The large screen is worth getting used to for me anyway. Stating the obvious I like having Safari and email open side by side. Or using iMessage with Safari in the same manner.
Carrying the 12.9 is no more difficult than going mobile with a 13” laptop. I truly like the iPad Pro 12.9 as sort of a hybrid laptop and tablet. Of course it may not suit all people and I respect that others have different needs and therefore opinions. Hey, if someone want a Mini-Cooper or a F-150 instead I say go for it
Now if Apple would only make a 27” iMac with touch screen and the ability to tilt on my desktop Yep, I’m serious. Imagine the cost of a Apple folio for that