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So what graphics card are likely to be used in the new iMac? Does coolness of the card itself play a big factor?

And I remember reading on here in a post that the X1600 was actually pretty decent at the time?! (i.e. I always think of Apple putting Low-Mid in their computers)

Questions about GPUs are always ignored since it might imply that you like to play games and Mac Users do not play games.
 
Questions about GPUs are always ignored since it might imply that you like to play games and Mac Users do not play games.

thats the most idiotic response to a valid question, that I have read today.


buu-wuubuddy-doo.. mac users don't play games because you say so. yah for crappy stereotypes!
 
thats the most idiotic response to a valid question, that I have read today.


buu-wuubuddy-doo.. mac users don't play games because you say so. yah for crappy stereotypes!

I was assuming that willcodejavafor wasn't being entirely serious but I might be wrong, if so I'd have to agree it was a silly thing to say.
 
Questions about GPUs are always ignored since it might imply that you like to play games and Mac Users do not play games.

I agree. Macs are only for web browsing, photos, movies, and looking sexy. We all know this right? :p

O yeah I have to add reading email. That's pretty high up on the list of mac things.
 
Here's a question. Is this not a contradiction: people ripping on the lack of quality in the displays but wanting upgrades to include Blu-Ray? What would be the point of higher definition if the monitor's definition doesn't improve proportionately?

Both monitors contain enough pixels to display 1020 full HD resolution (the 20" is slightly below, whereas the 24" is slightly above, but for all practical purposes, they're both HD). The main complaint is with the number of colors the 20" can display, which would take away from the picture.

The truth is blu-ray is more than a year away from even being a possibility of being included in the iMac. Slim-line blu-ray drives, without writing capability, cost $900 at the moment. Also, apple and sony haven't even finalized a deal to bring blu-ray to any macintosh computer, and you'll see blu-ray drives in the Mac pro long before they make it into the iMac and Mini.
 
How is the Macbook better than the iMac?

Have you seen the specs: (base model) (you can check the apple site and you will find that the specs are still better on the macbook...excluding GPU)

iMac:
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
250GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
Ships: Within 24 hours
Free Shipping
$1,199.00

Macbook:
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
160GB hard drive1
Double-layer SuperDrive
Ships: Within 24 hours
Free Shipping
$1,299.00

I didn't use the base model for the macbook cause i wanted to show that for 100 bucks you a lot better comp. which is a laptop while the $100 cheaper one is a desktop!!

That is BS desktops are usually a crap load better than laptops and half the price!!:mad:
 
Both monitors contain enough pixels to display 1020 full HD resolution (the 20" is slightly below, whereas the 24" is slightly above, but for all practical purposes, they're both HD). The main complaint is with the number of colors the 20" can display, which would take away from the picture.

The truth is blu-ray is more than a year away from even being a possibility of being included in the iMac. Slim-line blu-ray drives, without writing capability, cost $900 at the moment. Also, apple and sony haven't even finalized a deal to bring blu-ray to any macintosh computer, and you'll see blu-ray drives in the Mac pro long before they make it into the iMac and Mini.

Thank you for your reply.

(My 20" iMac is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, and my fingers are crossed. Okay, now they're uncrossed: I have too much stuff to get done today to be walkimg around with pincers.)
 
Have you seen the specs: (base model) (you can check the apple site and you will find that the specs are still better on the macbook...excluding GPU)

iMac:
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
250GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
Ships: Within 24 hours
Free Shipping
$1,199.00

Macbook:
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
160GB hard drive1
Double-layer SuperDrive
Ships: Within 24 hours
Free Shipping
$1,299.00

I didn't use the base model for the macbook cause i wanted to show that for 100 bucks you a lot better comp. which is a laptop while the $100 cheaper one is a desktop!!

considering you get 7" more screen realestate, 100% aluminum frame, a decent dedicated graphics card, and a $50 mouse with the iMac, they're actually fairly priced.

the preconceived notion that laptops should be twice as expensive as a comparable desktop hasn't been true since 2000. it becomes obvious when you consider that the iMac uses laptop components. Apple should make 2GB of memory standard at the same price, but 3rd party ram is so cheap, you might as well get 4 gig's of it from a 3rd party.
 
thats the most idiotic response to a valid question, that I have read today.

buu-wuubuddy-doo.. mac users don't play games because you say so. yah for crappy stereotypes!

The original poster was being sarcastic. On nearly every forum on this website, any time someone mentions how out-of-date/over-priced the GPUs are in Macs, someone calls you an idiot and tells you what you're supposed to be doing with your Mac (i.e., you shouldn't be playing games, but using your 8-core Mac Pro to rip DVDs is legit). Not only do people on this forum think you're an idiot, apparently Apple and EA do too. And when I say "you", I'm including myself.

I tried playing one of the few games "ported" to the Mac: Command and Conquer 3. I got halfway through the Nod campaign before I was annoyed at how bad it was. Here's a hint: that scorching sound is supposed to be accompanied by actual visible flames coming out of tanks! On the Mac, they are MIA. So, it's back to my 2-year-old XP box, which has no problems rendering the flames properly, which would be like this:

CC3_screen24.jpg


And while you're enjoying this game on your iMac, good luck mapping the keybindings to the Command key, or pressing mouse buttons 1&3 simultaneously on your mighty mouse...
 
Of course many of us don't have nor are we interested in gaming on our macs. If I was into games, though, I suppose I'd buy whatever machine plays games the way I like them to play and enjoy it. I can see that if you are a Mac lover, you would appreciate your games playing as you want them to but I get the impression, though, that Macs don't tend to be designed much for gaming.
 
If I was into games, though, I suppose I'd buy whatever machine plays games the way I like them to play and enjoy it.

:D So, just taking that logic to its extreme...

I suppose the next time someone is having trouble ripping/transcoding a DVD, or setting up a UPnP media server for his/her Apple TV, we can all just recommend they buy another computer and install XP or Linux, as either is better suited to, well, pretty much any one task when considered by itself.
 
:D So, just taking that logic to its extreme...

I suppose the next time someone is having trouble ripping/transcoding a DVD, or setting up a UPnP media server for his/her Apple TV, we can all just recommend they buy another computer and install XP or Linux, as either is better suited to, well, pretty much any one task when considered by itself.

i have no trouble ripping DVD's on my 6 yr old Mac.

as a whole, the macintosh is well suited as an everyday email/websurf/photovideoshop computer and for certain intense games. the gaming situation is a complex issue, but it's actually pretty easy to sum up. Game developers focused on making games for windows in the 90's, because there was more support from microsoft for game development, and apple was a mess. steve jobs got apple back on track, but the simple fact of the matter is, jobs doesn't care for video games and has never taken an interest in the field. as a result, the majority of PC gamers reside with windows today. few games are designed specifically for OS X, which means most games are ported and suffer.

the graphics card apple offers in the iMac lag behind the rest of the PC gaming world, but most of the games lag behind as well.
 
advice needed!

I want to get the 20 or 24 inch iMac (2.4GHz).

I am willing to wait until the end of July at the very lastest for the next version of iMac.

Should I wait or buy now?

Thanks!
 
Just throwing my hat into the fray -

I have a PB G4 1.25ghz, needless to say I am in desperate need of an upgrade, and can't wait for the iMacs to be updated!

I mean really the current iMacs I guess I would be happy with, I would just feel silly because there's no real reason for me to Not wait for the update, and get more bang for my buck - even if it is just a processor updgrade...
 
Just throwing my hat into the fray -

I have a PB G4 1.25ghz, needless to say I am in desperate need of an upgrade, and can't wait for the iMacs to be updated!

I mean really the current iMacs I guess I would be happy with, I would just feel silly because there's no real reason for me to Not wait for the update, and get more bang for my buck - even if it is just a processor updgrade...

wow, im totally in the same situation as you, powerbook g4, and wanting a imac. i was originally looking at getting another laptop, but after thinking about my needs (mostly illustration and photoshop) it didn't make sense, my powerbook is still good for general computing, web browsing, writing papers.. its amazing how useful a laptop from 4 or 5 years ago still is. i remember my first computer in 1996, and 4 years later i got a new one that made the old one look like utter crap, but with todays computers it seems harder and harder to justify the "need" for a new system. its even harder to justify the need for the new system (macbook pro) when the 4 year old system (powerbook g4) look exactly the same..
 
wow, im totally in the same situation as you, powerbook g4, and wanting a imac. i was originally looking at getting another laptop, but after thinking about my needs (mostly illustration and photoshop) it didn't make sense, my powerbook is still good for general computing, web browsing, writing papers.. its amazing how useful a laptop from 4 or 5 years ago still is. i remember my first computer in 1996, and 4 years later i got a new one that made the old one look like utter crap, but with todays computers it seems harder and harder to justify the "need" for a new system. its even harder to justify the need for the new system (macbook pro) when the 4 year old system (powerbook g4) look exactly the same..


Make that a 3rd. I have been on the verge of upgrading from my powerbook for the past year, but it's always been "good enough" and I haven't found an offering from Apple that fits into the right featureset/pricepoint that I feel comfortable with... so I continue to make due.
 
I didn't wait

I disposed of a 5 yrs old PC and bought an 20" IMac 2.4 GHz and put in 4G RAM. Why wait, the new Penryn has not much more to offer and you would get only 3M cache in stead of 4M. Since it's unlikely that you'll get a GPU upgrade, the decision is very easy.
 
I disposed of a 5 yrs old PC and bought an 20" IMac 2.4 GHz and put in 4G RAM. Why wait, the new Penryn has not much more to offer and you would get only 3M cache in stead of 4M. Since it's unlikely that you'll get a GPU upgrade, the decision is very easy.

Yea if there's no update announcement Tuesday, I'll buy one on Wednesday/Friday whenever I can get over to the mall after work
 
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