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bxs

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Congratulations! I'm glad you finally got it.

Will you do that? I haven't yet seen a report of anyone doing the test to demonstrate that it will run at 4.5 GHz. Also, if you have a little spare time would you perhaps run this little test? Thanks.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/encoding-with-handbrake-2017-imac.2089925/page-2#post-25686799

So I have a program that computes increasing prime numbers until it's terminated. When it executes it runs a single core at a steady 100% CPU use.

Here's what I did running this Prime Number program and varying the enabled cores with Hyper Threading disabled.

My iMac Pro is a 10-core/128GB RAM/1TB SSD/Vega 64 running macOS X 10.13.2 Build 17C2205.

The only Apps running were Intel Power Gadget, Terminal, the Prime Number program, Xcode Instruments (to enable/disable cores) and Activity Monitor.

1) I ran the test with one instance of the prime number program executing

Frequency was observed using the Intel Power Gadget

1 cores active - Frequency = 4.5 GHz
2 cores active - Frequency = 4.5 GHz
3 cores active - Frequency = 4.3 GHz
4 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
5 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
6 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
7 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
8 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
9 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
10 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz

2) I ran the test again with two instances of the prime number program executing

1 cores active - Frequency = 4.5 GHz
2 cores active - Frequency = 4.5 GHz
3 cores active - Frequency = 4.3 GHz
4 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
5 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
6 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
7 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
8 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
9 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz
10 cores active - Frequency = 4.2 GHz

3) I ran the test again with 10 instances of the Prime Number program running with 10 cores enabled and Hyper threading disabled.

Frequency was a steady 3.8 GHz

I ran the test again with 10 instances of the Prime Number program running with 10 cores enabled and with Hyper threading enabled.

Frequency was a steady 4.1 GHz

I ran the test again with 20 instances of the Prime Number program running with 20 logical cores enabled and Hyper threading disabled.

Frequency was a steady 3.8 GHz

I ran the test again with 20 instances of the Prime Number program running with 20 logical cores enabled and with Hyper threading enabled.

Frequency was varied from 3.49 to 3.64 GHz

During the most aggressive testing the Temperature never exceeded 93ºC and fans did not spin up to be noticeable to me.
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Congratulations! I'm glad you finally got it.

Will you do that? I haven't yet seen a report of anyone doing the test to demonstrate that it will run at 4.5 GHz. Also, if you have a little spare time would you perhaps run this little test? Thanks.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/encoding-with-handbrake-2017-imac.2089925/page-2#post-25686799

So I ran the HandBrake test as you requested and this was the result

encoded 7110 frames in 319.34s (22.26 fps), 8466.47 kb/s, Avg QP:26.42

While HandBrake was running temperature was moving between 91ºC and 92ºC and Intel Power Gadget was reporting frequency between 3.3 GHz and 3.61 GHz. Just about all 10 cores and 10 logical cores were close to being pegged close to 100% most of the time.
 
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FredT2

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So I ran the HandBrake test as you requested and this was the result

encoded 7110 frames in 319.34s (22.26 fps), 8466.47 kb/s, Avg QP:26.42

While HandBrake was running temperature was moving between 91ºC and 92ºC and Intel Power Gadget was reporting frequency between 3.3 GHz and 3.61 GHz. Just about all 10 cores and 10 logical cores were close to being pegged close to 100% most of the time.
Thank you very much. However, the results look off. That's 39% faster than the 8-core, which doesn't seem reasonable. Are you certain that you set "Tune" to "grain" under Encode Options?
 
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bxs

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Thank you very much. However, the results look off. That's 39% faster than the 8-core, which doesn't seem reasonable. Are you certain that you set "Tune" to "grain" under Encode Options?
I'm pretty sure I did set "Tune" to "grain" under Encode. I'll try again as I can do that easy enough.

Later....

OK... I did the run again.
I assume the Import for the preset file is done via HandBrake's menu bar Presets->Import...

Result
encoded 7110 frames in 320.43s (22.19 fps), 8466.47 kb/s, Avg QP:26.42

N.B. When I play the "Samsung Sensational Picture 4K Demo.mp4" all I get is awesome music.
 
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FredT2

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I'm pretty sure I did set "Tune" to "grain" under Encode. I'll try again as I can do that easy enough.

Later....

OK... I did the run again.
I assume the Import for the preset file is done via HandBrake's menu bar Presets->Import...
Correct, then select it from the Presets sidebar.
Result
encoded 7110 frames in 320.43s (22.19 fps), 8466.47 kb/s, Avg QP:26.42

N.B. When I play the "Samsung Sensational Picture 4K Demo.mp4" all I get is awesome music.
With Quicktime? I get the same, just audio.

Could you do one more quick test? With the same source file, chose the Apple 1080p30 Surround preset and change Video Encode to H.265 (x265) and Tune to grain, leaving everything else as is. Thanks.
 
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ThatSandWyrm

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I ordered the 10-core/128GB RAM/1TB SSD/Vega 64 early on Dec 15, 2017. The order status has not progressed from what is was on Dec 16, 2017, and I have no clue when it's estimated to ship to me. I do wonder what the holdup is. It's kind of annoying as I've already fully paid for the Mac. :(
That's very odd, mine (identical to yours) was delivered the day after Christmas, and I ordered on the 16th. Might want to call Apple and see what's up.
 
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bxs

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Correct, then select it from the Presets sidebar.

With Quicktime? I get the same, just audio.

Could you do one more quick test? With the same source file, chose the Apple 1080p30 Surround preset and change Video Encode to H.265 (x265) and Tune to grain, leaving everything else as is. Thanks.

OK... hopefully I made the correct settings for you.... see attached screen shot. This time the result was

encoded 7110 frames in 736.99s (9.65 fps), 14149.21 kb/s, Avg QP:22.05


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That's very odd, mine (identical to yours) was delivered the day after Christmas, and I ordered on the 16th. Might want to call Apple and see what's up.
Yep... I cancelled my original order and purchased with B&H on Monday Jan 15th and received it within 24 hrs with overnight delivery.
 
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FredT2

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OK... hopefully I made the correct settings for you.... see attached screen shot. This time the result was

encoded 7110 frames in 736.99s (9.65 fps), 14149.21 kb/s, Avg QP:22.05
Thank you very much! That results looks closer to what I'd expect, but still very good.
 
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FredT2

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Question for you.... Very good compared to what ? :)
Compared with the 8-core model. I expected that the 10-core would do these full processor Handbrake jobs about 10-12 percent faster, but it seems to be doing it faster.
 
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SecuritySteve

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Hey fellow 18 core holdouts - here's some interesting news. I was able to find a reseller that's actually beginning to sell the commercial version of our 18 core processor from intel. That means at least some of these processors are starting to roll off the line. So we're likely to see Apple getting their hands on the first batch of 18 core processors soon.

The link to the commercial version being sold:

https://www.avadirect.com/Xeon-W-21...-LGA-2066-140W-OEM-Processor/Product/11574125
 
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JBB4

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Hey fellow 18 core holdouts - here's some interesting news. I was able to find a reseller that's actually beginning to sell the commercial version of our 18 core processor from intel. That means at least some of these processors are starting to roll off the line. So we're likely to see Apple getting their hands on the first batch of 18 core processors soon.

The link to the commercial version being sold:

https://www.avadirect.com/Xeon-W-21...-LGA-2066-140W-OEM-Processor/Product/11574125
That's encouraging news, thanks for posting SecuritySteve :) I keep checking my status and I'm so used to seeing 'In progress' that i'll probably not register when that changes!
 

AppliedVisual

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I can confirm the 14 and 18 core CPUs are indeed rolling off the line now. Or at least the retail / integrator channel versions are. Not sure specifically how it relates to iMac orders, but I think Apple’s delivery estimates are going to be fairly accurate. I’m expecting a 14-core iMac Pro sometime between Feb 6 thru 20.
 

Bryan Bowler

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For starters, I'm glad you guys and gals will be getting your 14-core and 18-core beasts soon! On a secondary note, I'm looking forward to seeing how these beauties pan-out in testing and real-world use. I've been patiently holding off on placing my iMac Pro order and at this moment in time, I'm 90% sure what I want...but I want to better understand the 14-core and 18-core models first.
 
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SecuritySteve

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For starters, I'm glad you guys and gals will be getting your 14-core and 18-core beasts soon! On a secondary note, I'm looking forward to seeing how these beauties pan-out in testing and real-world use. I've been patiently holding off on placing my iMac Pro order and at this moment in time, I'm 90% sure what I want...but I want to better understand the 14-core and 18-core models first.
I totally understand. I'm planning on running some benchmarks on mine right out of the box. I will definitely post them here when I get the chance.
 

axiomreality

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I ordered a maxed out 18-core iMac Pro on launch day and my delivery notice has been steady at February 7-20th.

However, on Friday (Jan 26) my order status changed from “Processing” to “Sent to Manufacturing.”

I’m estimating a conservative 5 business days delivery from Shanghai to Vancouver and from what i’m recalling these things take about 4 days to assemble/package from start to finish assuming all the parts are ready.

Here’s hoping for a February 7 delivery.
 
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SecuritySteve

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One week until Feb 6th (soonest estimated delivery) and my order status is still 'Order Processing' - hope they jump on this soon. It is encouraging that @axiomreality had his order progress updated. Here's hoping!
 
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JBB4

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One week until Feb 6th (soonest estimated delivery) and my order status is still 'Order Processing' - hope they jump on this soon. It is encouraging that @axiomreality had his order progress updated. Here's hoping!
When I read axiomreality's post I had to go check the status of my order with shaky hand but alas, mine is like SecuritySteve's... here's hoping things change shortly!
 
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