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For me, no chin would be preferred, but its certainly not a deal breaker. Speakers aren’t a big factor as I’d be using homepod’s or sound sticks regardless. What I DO hope it includes, is display target mode. What I DREAM it would support, is Apple Pencil (which would of course require a different stand).
 
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I'm assuming there are electronic components packed behind the chin. Unles they can make the electronics more compact, elimination of the chin would force them to make the iMac fatter to afford the same volume. That's not an unreasonable trade-off, but it's still something to consider.
 
Chin which is a heat sink serves a few purposes. That said I would think they would reduce the size but not eliminate the chin.
 
This is the the best looking render imo. Keep the height adjustability of the Mac Pro display stand, with the more refined design like the existing tapered base. Remove unnecessary design elements like the chin.

No doubt, people can more easily recognize that it is the new iMac without a chin.



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Not to pick on you, because it seems like a common sentiment, but why do people feel a need to have someone “know” their computer is a Mac?

This supports the idea that Apple products are fashion accessories meant to show off your ability to pay more than you need to for the actual performance just to prove that you can.

I love my Apple products, but it’s not my job to advertise for Apple, nor do I need to impress anyone.

Not to pick on you, but you do list your Macs under your posts, unlike moi.
 
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No chin. But a reduced chin will be acceptable. I think Apple will want to have a logo on the front of this one even though there isn't one on the Pro XDR.

That being said, I won't even look at it if it's less than 29". I just sold my imac and went to a 32"4k. I love imacs, but there's no way I can personally go lower than 29" now.
 
I like the full chin as well. It's iconic and distinguishing without being distracting.
...and a good place for post-it notes ;P
 
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I have mine on a Humanscale monitor arm so paying extra for a stand wouldn't bother me too much, in fact, reduced price if not wanting a stand would be good, I'd go for the mini chin version.

M8/8.1 or M10? I use an M8 for my 38” LG but I think it’s not quite strong enough for the existing 27” iMac weight. I’m hoping the iMac redesign, even if/with a larger display, is a little lighter as the M10 is an expensive upgrade.
 
That’s not a good comparison of what’s at stake here. Here, people are discussing form, not function.

One thing to keep in mind about all this bezel angst: all that’s being done is taking more away and getting to basically a screen on a stand. What’s left once all that is presented is a screen with no bezel? Everyone’s happy and will never ever again have something new to ask for?

When Cadillac radically minimized their logo decades ago in an attempt to be new and hip it was especially interesting initially not because in and of itself but only by comparison to the prior, more detailed logo. A basic, reduced design that has none of the thoughtful, unique story-telling detail of the one that replaced. The new minimized design was interesting because it was different, not necessarily because it was “nicer” or more thoughtfully unique to the one it replaced.

I don’t find the current Cadillac logo ugly, but once you think about it, one can only understand its context by going back to the original logo with the wreaths, colors, ducks I think and a few other flourishes now gone.

So pretty soon, the iMac bezel will be completely gone and it will be edge to edge. If the rest of the lemming tech designers follow Apple‘s lead like they always do, so will other makers follow. Then all look alike. Then what’s next?

Just food for thought.
Completely agree with what you wrote!

This also reminds me of how the previous generation of Retina MacBook Pro's didn't have "MacBook Pro" written on the bezel but how Apple then brought it back for the newer models. Or the fact that the iPhone first had rounded edges (iPhone 2G - 3GS), then flat (iPhone 4 - iPhone SE), then rounded again (iPhone 6 - iPhone 11) and will now probably have flat edges again. Or the back and forth of using glass as a design element for iPhone. Or how the new Mac Pro has a handle reminiscent of the G4 Cube and an outer shell very much like the design introduced with the G5 Mac Pro. Or how the 16" MBP incorporates a mix of the old and new Retina MBP design characteristics...

Good design is worth revisiting and whether a new, streamlined design is better isn't always a simple question to answer.
 
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Personally I’d prefer to keep the chin. I also wouldn’t mind if it’s much thicker than the current iMac if it allows for better airflow and better placement of components.

I just don’t understand this obsession with thinness and the complete no-bezel brigade. To each their own, though.
 
Completely agree with what you wrote!

This also reminds me of how the previous generation of Retina MacBook Pro's didn't have "MacBook Pro" written on the bezel but how Apple then brought it back for the newer models. Or the fact that the iPhone first had rounded edges (iPhone 2G - 3GS), then flat (iPhone 4 - iPhone SE), then rounded again (iPhone 6 - iPhone 11) and will now probably have flat edges again. Or the back and forth of using glass as a design element for iPhone. Or how the new Mac Pro has a handle reminiscent of the G4 Cube and an outer shell very much like the design introduced with the G5 Mac Pro. Or how the 16" MBP incorporates a mix of the old and new Retina MBP design characteristics...

Good design is worth revisiting and whether a new, streamlined design is better isn't always a simple question to answer.

As per my sig file, change for the sake of change for anything other than maybe a golf course or underwear on a hot day really bothers me when function is noticeably negatively impacted for some and with no option to adjust back.

For the iMac, heading to a no-bezel design seems harmless to me unless it somehow makes access to ports worse. Tho I’ll be interested to see what is desired once the design goes to nothing more than a piece of glass on a stick. :)

However, I take great issue with going bezelless for an iPhone or iPad. For those crazies like me who put cases on our fragile $750+ purchase, the smaller the bezels have gotten, the more difficult it’s been to consistently swipe from offscreen to enable certain functions. At least I still have my beloved home button on my iPhone 8 for consistent and quick action. For my iPad w/o a case I love being able to hold it securely with finger overlap into the bezels without unintentional taps being enacted.

Worst of all is Jony’s joke of a UI starting with iOS7 that minimized as much function as possible within the onscreen interface just to present something different. Much, much less obvious indications of what’s a functionable vs. info, much less differentiation between content vs. controls, much less differentiation between info on the screen with the virtual eradication of defined borders to an absolute minimum, much less differentiation between the low-contrast light grey text on a stark white background (impossible to read in the sun), random nonsensical substitutions for certain icons just to keep up a certain new aesthetic (iOS’s gamecenter bubbles, Instagram’s tye-dye washing machine instead of a camera, everyone else’s icons morphing to flat design minimum presentation usually involving a basic color and a circle such that similar icons look way too alike sometimes), much content/tools moved offscreen buried under hamburger, ellipse, and/or gear icons just for sake of a clean presentation and supposedly because users no longer need such affordances.

Except the phone icon is a handset nobody‘s used for 20 years.

Except the camera makes a shutter sound that nobody born after 2000 has probably ever heard from a true shutter camera.

Except the mail icon is a handwritten letter that is becoming less and less used.

Except the Save icon used almost universally in apps is a floppy disk that few have used since 2002.

Why do they remain? How did Jony let this slip. Because certain things just “work.” Because it’s what got us here from the past and helps with universally-instantaneous “it just works” function. Sure there’s always room for nips & tucks and fresh coats of paint and trim for some fashionable updates between fun, meaningful function-related innovations, but sometimes too much change without regard for potential negative functional impacts turns into too much change for the sake of change.

But oh well, back to bezels. Once the iMac goes to a bezelless design, sure that’ll be cool. Curious to see how the iMac and iMac Pro are differentiated. Curious to see how Apple’s design will differentiate from a Dell monitor.
 
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Personally I’d prefer to keep the chin. I also wouldn’t mind if it’s much thicker than the current iMac if it allows for better airflow and better placement of components.

I just don’t understand this obsession with thinness and the complete no-bezel brigade. To each their own, though.
I often wonder what kind of tech Apple would be able to fit into their older designs today. I believe a 2009-style iMac or a new MacBook Pro in the old, thick case from that same time period could definitely be better cooled and have way more space inside for components:
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I fully realize this is something Apple would most likely never do, but it'd be cool if they gave us the option to choose between a slighthly thicker device with amazing performance and a thinner device with mediocre performance. Maybe with ARM we will have the best of both worlds, we shall see...

Why do they remain? How did Jony let this slip Because they work, because it’s what got us here from the past and helps with universally-instantaneous “it just works” function.

I honestly believe that tech is circular and we will one day get to a point where we go back to stuff like skeumorphic design... It's not for nothing that analog photography and vinyl records are popular again; with the consant technological advancement, sometimes we stray too far from what is intuitive and makes the most sense. In a similar vein, I am certain that small phones will be making a comeback in the future, too...

Curious to see how Apple’s design will differentiate from a Dell monitor.

Funny you should mention this, I was thinking the same thing! Many of the concepts look exactly like Dell monitors (one of which I'm using right now, mind you). Most Dell's are plastic though afaik, so the iMac would definitely feel sturdier at the very least.
 
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I honestly believe that tech is circular and we will one day get to a point where we go back to stuff like skeumorphic design... It's not for nothing that analog photography and vinyl records are popular again; with the consant technological advancement, sometimes we stray too far from what is intuitive and makes the most sense. In a similar vein, I am certain that small phones will be making a comeback in the future, too...

Agree 100%. But to me there’s necessary skeuomorphic design and optional skeuomorphic design. If only there were two terms, one for things like woodgrain trim, leather stitching, and the shiny chrome that gave GERD to Jony and certain users, and another for the visual affordances that help to subconsciously guide the user to understand the function of the screen‘s contents, regardless of whether it reflects “real life” or not. I never minded the first skeumorphism too much even if the iOS6 podcast app with a cassette player was ridiculous. But I miss the “it just works” of the latter type of functional skeumorphism that felt much more efficient to use. Too much of iOS7 to iOS13 and today’s flat-design aesthetic disregards what makes things feel like “it just works” IMHO. But a lot of iOS7’s garbage arbitrary reinventions have been back-pedalled, thankfully by someone there who sent Jony out maybe to focus on things like making snow look whiter.

Now for a bezelless iMac - what will be the next frontier. 1mm thickness from the side view?
 
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Excellent points! I do believe Jony's greatest designs were hardware and not software related...

Now for a bezelless iMac - what will be the next frontier. 1mm thickness from the side view?
Ha! I'd love to see them pull that off... Perhaps with the rumored ARM processors and small fans it could work. Or an iMac G4-like base...
 
I maintain that a black chin with a single glass sheet all the way down the front will look really sharp.

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I like. Now, if only the lower bezel area could be used for a touch-bar like function, and/or an info-sharing area that’s additive to the active screen. Wouldn’t that be something useful, innovative, and unique to Apple.
 
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All renders are wrong, but you have no chance of knowing.

The next iMac will have a square display. Resolution will be 5120x5120, and it will be available in 2 sizes.

In the keynote, they will present the square monitor as best size for working (e.g. Pages, Keynote, Adobe etc) and that Apple TV is for movies etc...
 
All renders are wrong, but you have no chance of knowing.

The next iMac will have a square display. Resolution will be 5120x5120, and it will be available in 2 sizes.

In the keynote, they will present the square monitor as best size for working (e.g. Pages, Keynote, Adobe etc) and that Apple TV is for movies etc...
Are you trolling? If not, that'd actually be sort of interesting...
 
I often wonder what kind of tech Apple would be able to fit into their older designs today. I believe a 2009-style iMac or a new MacBook Pro in the old, thick case from that same time period could definitely be better cooled and have way more space inside for components:
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I fully realize this is something Apple would most likely never do, but it'd be cool if they gave us the option to choose between a slighthly thicker device with amazing performance and a thinner device with mediocre performance. Maybe with ARM we will have the best of both worlds, we shall see...



I honestly believe that tech is circular and we will one day get to a point where we go back to stuff like skeumorphic design... It's not for nothing that analog photography and vinyl records are popular again; with the consant technological advancement, sometimes we stray too far from what is intuitive and makes the most sense. In a similar vein, I am certain that small phones will be making a comeback in the future, too...



Funny you should mention this, I was thinking the same thing! Many of the concepts look exactly like Dell monitors (one of which I'm using right now, mind you). Most Dell's are plastic though afaik, so the iMac would definitely feel sturdier at the very least.
I really miss that iMac with the disc drive. When was the final year it was released? Maybe 2013? I never did buy one. I actually still have my 2006 iMac, the first intel model which is slow as heck and I don’t use it anymore.
 
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