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iMac's are an awful purchase
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It's true, a 980ti with an OC'ed 6700k can render pixar films all on it's own. BLOWS THE IMAC OUT OF THE WATER AND NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE!!! /sarcasm
Reality, not so much.
Apple has had multiple recalls on multiple product lines because of their cheap solder. I'm not kidding. 2011 MacBook pros, 2012-2013 Retina macbooks, the list goes on and on. I have done a lot of component soldering in my lifetime, and I would never touch the garbage solder Apple uses.
They were doing it to try and be more environmentally friendly, as if it makes a huge difference. There are several alternatives they could have chosen that would have been even MORE environmentally friendly and reduced the amount of lead in the environment. But as always, Apple chose the cheapest option.
Preach! I love bear's. Especially fozziebear.
YASS PIXAR YASS. Truly next gen.
Recalls happen, but even then Apple STILL has the best reliability in terms of computers/laptops. Depending on what chart's you look at, even then they still rank very high. And, I'm sure you solder better than Apple's engineers. You should work for AMD. Maybe you can help them make better choices in regards to their unreliable graphic cards. And, I hope your MSI motherboard, or whatever third party motherboard you use lasts at least a year.
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My Motherboard has lasted several years. That's more than I can say for my Retina MacBook Pro, which has had to be repaired several times due to the same exact solder recall.
Apple used to have the best reliability. My 2009 MacBook Pro is still running like a champ. But these days? I bet Apple's numbers for reliability aren't any better than Dell's.
So how much did you spend on your Hackintosh over the years? What components do you use? What monitor is it driving?
Add all that up and what did it come to? More or less than an iMac?
I have a 2012 iMac (the first thin one). It works great for my needs which is mostly photo editing. I anticipate another year or two before I trade it up. For me that's a good return on my investment.
Before I was using PC's and you'd never get 5-6 years out of those.
So why did I choose the iMac? The all in one suits my needs. It doesn't look a mess in my office and I appreciate the design aspects. Would I mind a slightly thicker machine? Not really.
But for me it just works. If I needed more performance I'd get a nMP. But the increased cost would be too much for me.
I have no interest in building macs or PC's. The iMac was never designed for those that do. If you want a free choice on gpu, HD etc., go buy an empty box and enjoy the process.
But why moan about a machine that isn't for you? A bit like me moaning the iPhone camera is rubbish compared to my DSLR because it doesn't have a 500mm zoom lens option. It's horses for courses. The iMac doesn't work for your needs. Then carry on with your Hackintosh and enjoy.
I doubt your motherboard lasted several years, as you claim. Just look at the pic above. Eww at Hackintosh hardware. And, even then the Retina Macbook is still better, even though you had a sour experience with it.
Apple used to have the best reliability? LOL. Now, I know you are just adding fuel to the fire to keep this thread going. They still are reliable as they ever were, and they aren't any better than Dell's? Excuse me while I laugh, and cry at the same time. Truly hilarious.
Anecdotal evidence so here's my own. 100's of MacBooks and iMacs and iPhones between friends/co-workers over the years and only 2-3 issues from my recollection. 5 PC builders, 3 had RMA's and HORRIBLE customer service from gigabyte, MSI, ASUS from what I heard. Failing PSU's, bad solder on mobo's, GPU failures. PC laptops had a multitude of issues as well, but there was a lot more of them in fairness. Windows is plain out garbage no matter what people try to claim. Should have been shot behind then barn years ago and rebuilt. Garbage on top of more Garbage code
Well said sir! The dude is just trolling though. We must troll back!
Also LOL at phone cameras being compared to DSLR's. Phone cameras are TRASH in comparison. Tech reviewers may think the 4k on their phone is amazing, but it's phone 4k which = garbage.
Let me counter your anectodal evidence with my own anectodal evidence!
Oh wait, my evidence (the countless recalls since 2011) isn't anectodal at all, it's fact. You can repeat the propaganda all you want but at the end of the day, macs these days just aren't as good as they used to be.
Sure, your iMac works ok for photo editing, just like mine works fine for text editing.
But at the end of the day, an m395x is a JOKE. Not much you can really do about that, sorry.
Oh wait, my evidence (the countless recalls since 2011) isn't anectodal at all, it's fact. You can repeat the propaganda all you want but at the end of the day, macs these days just aren't as good as they used to be.
Sure, your iMac works ok for photo editing, just like mine works fine for text editing.
But at the end of the day, an m395x is a JOKE. Not much you can really do about that, sorry.
Still no photos of your hackintosh? I've asked 3 times. Parts list too please.
I'm up to $1k right now:
$100 for RAM
$300 for CPU
$600 for the 2 graphics cards
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$450 for the SSDs
I'm up to $1k right now:
$100 for RAM
$300 for CPU
$600 for the 2 graphics cards
***
$450 for the SSDs
LMFAO! Go play with your friends on steam. That girl on twitch is broadcasting soon, give her a tip 
Yeah those COUNTLESS recalls. Ignore those others with way worse recalls. Countless as in 5-7 all minimal and a quick fix. Cry moar though, it is enjoyable. Dell and Lenovo for 2 examples have MANY customers begging for a recall on certain machines, they won't do it though.
Nearly every single mobo on newegg in this case should have a recall as well, when you have nearly 25% of 1 star reviews, 15% 2 star reviews, they mostly are all garbage. But the idiots in the PC gaming community let them get away with murder so they can live in fictional worlds and play GTA837373 and COD 383838832 cause they have no lives. SO adorable. Same thing as car that goes 10 miles till it needs repaired and they repair it and get some odd satisfaction in running such a POS.
Gamer life dawg!! Talk about a WASTE of money.
Yeah those COUNTLESS recalls. Ignore those others with way worse recalls. Countless as in 5-7 all minimal and a quick fix. Cry moar though, it is enjoyable. Dell and Lenovo for 2 examples have MANY customers begging for a recall on certain machines, they won't do it though.
Nearly every single mobo on newegg in this case should have a recall as well, when you have nearly 25% of 1 star reviews, 15% 2 star reviews, they mostly are all garbage. But the idiots in the PC gaming community let them get away with murder so they can live in fictional worlds and play GTA837373 and COD 383838832 cause they have no lives. SO adorable. Same thing as car that goes 10 miles till it needs repaired and they repair it and get some odd satisfaction in running such a POS.
Gamer life dawg!! Talk about a WASTE of money.
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OMG so much money wasted. He could have build such an amazing hackintosh build!LMFAO! Go play with your friends on steam. That girl on twitch is broadcasting soon, give her a tip
Yeah those COUNTLESS recalls. Ignore those others with way worse recalls. Countless as in 5-7 all minimal and a quick fix. Cry moar though, it is enjoyable. Dell and Lenovo for 2 examples have MANY customers begging for a recall on certain machines, they won't do it though.
Nearly every single mobo on newegg in this case should have a recall as well, when you have nearly 25% of 1 star reviews, 15% 2 star reviews, they mostly are all garbage. But the idiots in the PC gaming community let them get away with murder so they can live in fictional worlds and play GTA837373 and COD 383838832 cause they have no lives. SO adorable. Same thing as car that goes 10 miles till it needs repaired and they repair it and get some odd satisfaction in running such a POS.
Gamer life dawg!! Talk about a WASTE of money.
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DSLRs are aspirational in nature. The "options" can, individually, cost more than a small car.
Actually a large car! My DSLR kit would cost more than my car and the wife's together!
DSLRs are aspirational in nature. The "options" can, individually, cost more than a small car.
To the OP, I'd rather deal with a company that does product calls than one who denies there is a problem. I've owned Dell computers. I won't buy another one.
Also still waiting to here which monitor your running on your Hackintosh as well as how much it cost to build (including upgrades).
Apple products are over priced for the components contained within them but where they excel is in the user experience of the product. Some people only look at integrated graphics and throttled cpu's so obviously there is a price issue. Apple hasn't gone after the high end desktop segment. There's no point saying iMacs suck when they're not trying to be the best.
Yeah...and you keep assuming I do PC gaming...which I haven't done since the early 2000's. I think we're finished here.LMFAO! Go play with your friends on steam. That girl on twitch is broadcasting soon, give her a tip
Yeah those COUNTLESS recalls. Ignore those others with way worse recalls. Countless as in 5-7 all minimal and a quick fix. Cry moar though, it is enjoyable. Dell and Lenovo for 2 examples have MANY customers begging for a recall on certain machines, they won't do it though.
Nearly every single mobo on newegg in this case should have a recall as well, when you have nearly 25% of 1 star reviews, 15% 2 star reviews, they mostly are all garbage. But the idiots in the PC gaming community let them get away with murder so they can live in fictional worlds and play GTA837373 and COD 383838832 cause they have no lives. SO adorable. Same thing as car that goes 10 miles till it needs repaired and they repair it and get some odd satisfaction in running such a POS.
Gamer life dawg!! Talk about a WASTE of money.
Before I enter here more peanuts to this gallery, I have to say that I absolutely do not play any video games what so ever and have no desire to do so. With that being said - I'll comment and respond...
I recall long ago when someone had the great idea of putting the guts of a computer into the older style keyboards (akin to the IBM and Northgate 101 plus for those that remember). They actually worked reasonably well though for the price were sorely weak contenders. Today we have a near laptop stuffed into a lovely screen and we are supposed to be excited. We get parts that are soldered to the motherboard, less options available to custom for a particular need and damn lucky that some models let you add RAM easily. To me, there is not much difference between the keyboard computer and the iMac. The cost is relatively high with respect to the computer part of the iMac. It is as if Apple says get the lesser guts and we'll give you the spiffy screen to compensate. For some people this is fine. They don't want to be concerned about what is on the inside, they just want to pay out the bucks and not worry if there was a counterpart that was, for the buck, a superior computer. I can appreciate that but I also appreciate the fact that people who use Apple have within the group a population that is concerned about having hardware that can handle future software, some pro software etc. without worry. The top of the line iMac turns out to be a better performer than the lower end Mac (mini) Pro on many real world tests and thus, we have two over priced items while counterparts in the PC world match and exceed the abilities of these Apple products. For those that say 'it ain't so,' take the time to look up the contrast and comparisons for yourself along with the tests provided and their summary/outcomes.
While I happen to use computers mostly for writing and graphics (primarily photo restoration), I get by with the limitations Apple feels is acceptable while running their marketing model along with "good will" (the latter which permeates at multiple levels to the masses). I wont be buying a Mac Pro any time soon due to cost and performance. I rather build yet again, a PC to do the tasks when the time comes. I can get the hex core, get the GPU of choice and whatever else I find works well for my needs. The iMac is fun, it is pretty, it is expensive (for laptop like guts) and has a spiffy screen. Those that don't mind paying the Apple Tax should enjoy their iMac unless what they intend to do requires specs that don't jive with the iMac.
1) zero reason for an ultra flat (thin) computer when it is not intended for mobile usage.
2) a thicker version of the iMac would have allowed for far more options within Apple's offerings or 3rd party
3) some software thrives with Nvidia and some with ATI/AMD and some get by with the on board Iris. No real choice now unless you want to spend to get away from the Iris and Apple offers only one maker at present beyond the Iris.
4) Soldered in rather than removable parts might be cheaper to build but is an absolute limitation.
5) Sony and others have counterparts that are similar in style yet for the dollar a far better deal (no OSX however).
So, next time, take your laptop, separate the keyboards, put the screen on an bent piece of aluminium and now you have the poor man's mini iMac. Game over.
I recall long ago when someone had the great idea of putting the guts of a computer into the older style keyboards (akin to the IBM and Northgate 101 plus for those that remember). They actually worked reasonably well though for the price were sorely weak contenders. Today we have a near laptop stuffed into a lovely screen and we are supposed to be excited. We get parts that are soldered to the motherboard, less options available to custom for a particular need and damn lucky that some models let you add RAM easily. To me, there is not much difference between the keyboard computer and the iMac. The cost is relatively high with respect to the computer part of the iMac. It is as if Apple says get the lesser guts and we'll give you the spiffy screen to compensate. For some people this is fine. They don't want to be concerned about what is on the inside, they just want to pay out the bucks and not worry if there was a counterpart that was, for the buck, a superior computer. I can appreciate that but I also appreciate the fact that people who use Apple have within the group a population that is concerned about having hardware that can handle future software, some pro software etc. without worry. The top of the line iMac turns out to be a better performer than the lower end Mac (mini) Pro on many real world tests and thus, we have two over priced items while counterparts in the PC world match and exceed the abilities of these Apple products. For those that say 'it ain't so,' take the time to look up the contrast and comparisons for yourself along with the tests provided and their summary/outcomes.
While I happen to use computers mostly for writing and graphics (primarily photo restoration), I get by with the limitations Apple feels is acceptable while running their marketing model along with "good will" (the latter which permeates at multiple levels to the masses). I wont be buying a Mac Pro any time soon due to cost and performance. I rather build yet again, a PC to do the tasks when the time comes. I can get the hex core, get the GPU of choice and whatever else I find works well for my needs. The iMac is fun, it is pretty, it is expensive (for laptop like guts) and has a spiffy screen. Those that don't mind paying the Apple Tax should enjoy their iMac unless what they intend to do requires specs that don't jive with the iMac.
1) zero reason for an ultra flat (thin) computer when it is not intended for mobile usage.
2) a thicker version of the iMac would have allowed for far more options within Apple's offerings or 3rd party
3) some software thrives with Nvidia and some with ATI/AMD and some get by with the on board Iris. No real choice now unless you want to spend to get away from the Iris and Apple offers only one maker at present beyond the Iris.
4) Soldered in rather than removable parts might be cheaper to build but is an absolute limitation.
5) Sony and others have counterparts that are similar in style yet for the dollar a far better deal (no OSX however).
So, next time, take your laptop, separate the keyboards, put the screen on an bent piece of aluminium and now you have the poor man's mini iMac. Game over.
Well, some little bear told me that you love Minecraft! Don't tell me its a lie? :'(
Thank you, finally a well thought-out post. I totally agree with you. The iMac & Mac Pro's are way overpriced, but most of their audience don't really do anything very intensive with them so it works for them. I suppose the professional crowd might as well give up with Apple, their supposed high-end machine hasn't been updated with a new GPU since 2013.
I wouldn't even care if Apple stuck with AMD, as long as they offered at least a high-end AMD GPU, which they currently don't. That 5K display is so gorgeous, I would really love to throw my money at Apple to get one but I just can't stomach a $2300 machine with a m395x in it.
We shouldn't have even began, this thread is beyond stupid, so I brought the same stupid trolling you are doing. From your talk you come across as a gamer.
Fair enough but since logic is out the window since this current gen loves watching 10 minutes reviews for a fudging cell phone let's be honest here.
Is this some BIG surprise that PEOPLE DIDNT KNOW TEN YEARS AGO! Yes the iMac cannot be upgraded, yes it uses laptop parts. The same idiots will circle jerk a Gaming laptop PC which on tests wouldn't be that much faster than an iMac. If we are taking desktops then yes the GPU will outperform an iMac and the CPU won't throttle, but from my own experience the iMac handles 4k pretty damn well, even plays games okay, look at youtube videos the proof is there and it plays at decent settings. Apparently here the nerds think it can't get 1FPS. For 2k you are getting good stuff, other AIO's are priced about the same. It should run cooler, I'd agree on that, and should use Nvidia as well. I'd prefer removable hard drives as well. Fact is whether linus (I talk through my nose) tech tips or whoever tries to tell this PC building crap is on the rise it isn't true since it won't last. All the problems people have (Far more than minor recalls) will wear them out from it. And if MS gets more OS competition like they are getting now then I say good, let that wretched POS software go away.
The OP posted an idiotic thread to begin with.
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You: "He agrees with me!! YAY!!!!"
LOL wow dude... Minecraft awaits get to it!!
Yeah! A beast hakintosh with not one, not two, BUT THREE GTX 970!
And maybe 6 1080p displays.
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