lol did you even google it? It has no difference at all. There is no reasons to keep lighting port unless you wanna use headphones or earphones with lighting port. Wireless is still not stable and able to transfer high amount of datas. Monitor, HDD, and etc.
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lol did you even google it? It has no difference at all. There is no reasons to keep lighting port unless you wanna use headphones or earphones with lighting port. Wireless is still not stable and able to transfer high amount of datas. Monitor, HDD, and etc.
AppleCare covers the earpods and charging cable and charger block. Apple recently replaced my earpods because the right channel wasn't working anymore.
The OP makes a valid point. There is a cult like following among some members who accept everything as it is served to them and do not even consider all the outcomes of changes and do not look at issues critically.
Seems like people are entitled to think/buy whatever they want, without being categorized in some pejorative category. It could be some things are not as big a deal to some as to others; as the comment about "looking at issues critically". A critical issue to you may be a non-issue to me.
At any rate, revenue that quarter will tell the tale.
You know what the worst thing that could occur if Apple has its own lightning headphone, other manufacturers move to have their own headphone standard, all incompatible with each other and incompatible with existing devices except with dongles and adapters and pure nonsense. Maybe Apple will need to make lightning an open standard.
That is always the problem with proprietary things. We've already seen what you are talking about with merely charging, obviously I can't use micro usb or usb c for charging an iPhone. And on that front Apple is starting to lag behind against things like Quick Charge. But that in itself isn't enough for vast amounts of people to start migrating to devices that support Quick Charge...I'm sure some have but not enough to make a difference.
I feel Lightning headphones will be similar. Only the most die hard audiophiles will switch devices because their is a USB C set of headphones they want that don't have a Lightning option. And the opposite could apply (although less likely IMO) where someone switches to an iPhone because their favorite headphones are only available with a lightning connector. More then likely as a worst case a USB C set of headphones will have an optional lightning cable you can buy....thats worst case, best case it already comes packaged in the box. The reason it might not is due to Apples fee to the manufacturer.
Apple would likely go with USB C before they made lightning "open" i.e. license fee free. It would just be easier at that point...why reinvent the wheel?
Just my thoughts on that...
Just to play devil's advocate, there is also a fad where people think it's cool to hate apple products.
Of course they are, this whole category thing is being taken way to seriously, all I was saying is that there are fanboys that want it gone just because they agree with whatever Apple does. If it's not a big deal to you then you have a reason to not mind if it goes or to want it to go in favour of better battery life or new features. Similarly, don't mind the lack of ports on the MacBook but don't consider myself a fanboy because I do mind things such as the iPads petruding camera, no dGPU on the iMac 21.5", no headphone jack, etc.
Yes, there are people like that, but the point originally was that there are only people like that or those who just don't care, and that part is certainly not valid, right? Seems like that has already been addressed earlier in the thread.
No that's wrong. I asked you to read it again so I thought you would know that's not what is said at all. I said:
"a lot of the people that don't want it either don't use it or are Apple fanboys that agree with everything they do"
I didn't say it was everybody, and as clarified in later posts the first category of people who don't use it was referring to a wider group of people who have a valid reason for being indifferent/wanting it gone. In the case of the member I was replying to, the reason was that they didn't use it. I thought you agreed with me after I cleared it up? Fanboys and those with a valid reason (the same as those who don't care).
As I said, and as you also mentioned, this was all addressed already earlier in the thread.
i'd like all of you to think with me over this:
every time apple parted from a technology in favor of something new, they highlighted the positives of going that direction, eg. when dropping the optical drive it was to save weight and size, when going from 30pin to lightning it was the smaller size and reversible plug, wjen dropping all ports except usb-c it was because they claimed you could do everything wirelessly, etc.. they always HAD to advertise the change as something better for the customer, even if that's a bold claim.
now, what are the advantages of lightning earphones? i don't see any, honestly, sound quality is the same, plug ease is the same, i doubt they want to sell the new iphone as waterproof, it's a dangerous move and could comeback as a commercial disaster. can you name any?
rather i'd see wireless earphones coming, that would make more sense, but technologically speaking i still don't know how they'll deal with the battery/recharging hassle.
three devices to charge every night is just too much..
every time apple parted from a technology in favor of something new, they highlighted the positives of going that direction, eg. when dropping the optical drive it was to save weight and size, when going from 30pin to lightning it was the smaller size and reversible plug, wjen dropping all ports except usb-c it was because they claimed you could do everything wirelessly, etc.. they always HAD to advertise the change as something better for the customer, even if that's a bold claim.
now, what are the advantages of lightning earphones? i don't see any, honestly, sound quality is the same, plug ease is the same, i doubt they want to sell the new iphone as waterproof, it's a dangerous move and could comeback as a commercial disaster. can you name any?
rather i'd see wireless earphones coming, that would make more sense, but technologically speaking i still don't know how they'll deal with the battery/recharging hassle.
three devices to charge every night is just too much..
Yeah there's currently no obviously benificial replacement to the headphone jack, for example it's not like USB-C to USB-A. While there are audio quality benifits to using lightning, I really think they'll be pushing wireless since it is a universal standard and they're not stupid. It's too expensive to include in the box, but I expect they'll release AirPods. You won't have to charge them over night maybe for just 10 minutes using the lightning port on your phone.
I would love to have wireless earbuds with similar sound quality to wired. I have tried a number of wireless earbuds and either the sound quality is sub par or the audio delay when watching videos is awful. I still use the wireless when exercising but go back to wireless for everything else. Not happy if the new phone does lose the headphone jack.
Seems like that argument is being used nowadays as a personal attack against anyone who doesn't agree with a dissenting view.
Don't agree with me? OMG! You are an Apple fanboy!
I can also claim that these critics are making a huge fuss over nothing. No one can predict what the future will bring or what impact a certain change can have. Am I supposed to just believe and accept all the doomsaying over the removal of the headphone jack just because some people make noise over it?
If you read my point, I said some of the people who agree with it are fanboys, while some others have a valid reason. While I don't agree with the move, I'm not making a fuss about it. I don't just label anyone who agrees with everything Apple does as fanboys, I agreed with the removal of ports on the MacBook for example. I know your point was speaking generally but I just wanted to clear that up.
At this point , you're right - nobody can know what will happen. This thread was supposed to be for all impacts but I guess a lot are negative (at least in the view of those who want to keep the headphone jack).
some of the things gotten rid of in the past are really different issues - the optical drive - still available but not inside the MP and not much used anymore due to downloads - the 30 pin - Apple was the only one who used it, headphones are still needed and used. 3 years from now we either won't care about the headphone jack or it will be known as one of Apple's big mistakes.
Hmmm... the headphone jack has been used for much longer than any other technologies that Apple has killed so I think this time it'll be different. Possibly similar to how we look at USB-A compared to USB-C today, while Apple see it as the replacement for A, a lot of other manufacturers don't. Although it's not exactly the same, and we'll probably see a lot of phones drop it or make fun of it in advertising, but I think there will still be people that care about it purely for compatibility reasons.
Quite agree. That includes choosing equipment that gives you the flexibility to deal with the unexpected.
You know, things like carrying a pair of cheap, spare earbuds in case your nice bluetooth set break down/run flat. Or an external battery pack in case you need to top-up on the go (but which will now stop you plugging in earphones).
We obviously have widely differing views and possibly irreconcilable views on what constitutes a "luxury".
I mean, kudos for showing your solidarity with the common people by slumming it with the stock earbuds, but don't you think that something else in this picture might possibly count as a luxury? I mean, OK, with no mobile phone at all you might as well go join a hunter-gatherer commune somewhere and live off goat droppings, but maybe you could still manage some semblance of basic human dignity with something free-on-contract - and leave the $700+ high-end smartphone as something to aspire to?
Its pretty much a given that most of the issues discussed in these forums are well and truly "first world problems" so I think its fair game to complain here when high-end goods fall short of the mark.
To re-iterate the original point - Apple have junked "obsolete" interfaces in the past, but that's usually been offset by other big steps forward - and the 3.5mm jack is a long way from obsolete.
The elimination of the headphone jack means charging and listening cannot occur simultaneously unless there is a kludge adapter of some kind. But what if Apple also -- finally -- introduces wireless charging, so you could simply put down the phone and charge it on a pad while you listen via Lightning? The rumors all say they have eliminated the antenna bands on the back of the phone, which makes some sense if you are going to need charging sensors there.
I listen to music all day at work with wireless headphones and own an Apple watch as well that's connected 24/7. Bluetooth doesn't drain as much battery as people claim it does.
these arguments generally cycle around apple fanboy excuses for Apple. And nay sayers thinking up a ton of reasons why it is dumb because they like to complain.
Well I am a total Apple fanboy and I think it is foolish.
They may be able to force some 'synergy' from Beats headphones. Which will probably work pretty well becuase we all know how lame non-certified lightning cables are, so buying the Apple approved Apple subsidiary headphones is logical.
Except Beats are terrible sounding and gaudy.
And lots of people already own several $100+ headphones.
I'm not going to stop using my Canon or Motu gear to satisfy Ive's quest for skinny.
I'll just buy a Samsung ugly 7 or whatever it's called.
Well I am a total Apple fanboy and I think it is foolish.
They may be able to force some 'synergy' from Beats headphones. Which will probably work pretty well becuase we all know how lame non-certified lightning cables are, so buying the Apple approved Apple subsidiary headphones is logical.
Except Beats are terrible sounding and gaudy.
And lots of people already own several $100+ headphones.
I'm not going to stop using my Canon or Motu gear to satisfy Ive's quest for skinny.
I'll just buy a Samsung ugly 7 or whatever it's called.
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