Yeah, I guess that might be to do with the convenience. The battery life for wireless headphones are okay, while the pairing system is awful for a lot of things. iOS 10 has probably one of the easiest pairing systems through control centre but I haven't tried out wireless headphones with multiple iOS 10 devices so I don't know.
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I heard bluetooth is flaky with iOS10. However pairing is pretty easy imo. Honestly I would love wireless if I didn't have to charge it. I have 2 bluetooth earphones infront of me (well earphone and headphone if I want to be technical) and both have not been charged for months. For one I can't find the charger (uses mini usb) and the other I just never remember to charge it until I need it.
Been thinking of picking up one of those headphones that use both bluetooth and wired. However I don't listen to music that much to warrant the purchase. Mainly listen to music for extended periods when I am flying or using aux in the car.
Ummmmm.....nah......I'm not recommending people get a new car or iPad. You're waaaaay off. I'm showing that's how I manage it when I travel, I use my iPad to watch movies. As far as car, I use BT.
I am saying leave the house or work with a full charge. I am saying that's what I do now. Already today, without tye new phone. So the loss of the jack will have no impact.
I can't believe this is such a revolutionary idea.
No. My solution is to charge my phone before I leave the house. The iPad is what I use on long flights. The new car is because my extended warranty was expiring. It has BT.
I'm bad with stick figures, otherwise I'd draw it for you.
Yes because she said in her car she listens to music via bluetooth and is able to charge her phone. So if my car does not support bluetooth and I am suppose to "Plan Ahead" like she mentions, I will need a new car come september. How does having usb on a flight make any difference in listening to music while charging?None of the flights I have been on has bluetooth or electricity. (I fly on Jetblue almost all the time).
She gave a long list of how she "planned ahead". So I can safely assume if Honda decides to remove the alternator and use a battery that last 1 full day. It will be fine, because we should just plan ahead and charge the battery every night.
EDIT: Technology is suppose to make life easier. I shouldn't have to plan ahead to listen to music on my iPhone.
Honestly this is the most fun I've had in this forum in ages.
The car has BT. So I use it for music and phone calls. Revolutionary. Wow.
I charge my phone by either plugging it in while I sleep or using my docking stations around the house and work before I leave. Or I plug it in the car so I will have a full charge on the Metro and on the way to work. *That* is planning ahead. I already do that today so the loss of the jack will have no impact.
The iPad I use on long flights to watch movies so the headset is in the iPad while I watch movies and the phone is charging. Sorry your flights haven't had a plug. Mine did on United and Alaska airlines. I use the iPad because of the bigger screen and increased use of storage because I don't keep music on my iPad, just films and shows.
Do I need to go over it again for you?
Not necessarily.Google Nexus tried to copy Apple with no SD card and it failed.Samsung tried to copy Apple with no SD card and failed.Sony tried to copy Samsung by thinning out their phones and reducing battery life and failed.People like me are in majority when it comes to Samsung's customers as unlike Apple,Samsung does not have a cult following hence they fail when they try out these stupid decisions
As far as the iPhone goes,until the sales tank there's no way they are listening to their customers.Hence I am getting Samsung and Apple both this time around
Don't consider it being in a cult when I buy products that I like and that served me well for several years. A cult would be BlackBerry BB10 users, where owners go through all sorts of workarounds to continue to use a dying platform.
I own iPhone, Android, Windows 10, and the last BlackBerry phone I'll ever buy, and I used them simultaneously on different lines. Right now I'm down to iOS and Android in my bag at this moment. The Android is sporadic, mostly my team uses it.
I own iPhone, Android, Windows 10, and the last BlackBerry phone I'll ever buy, and I used them simultaneously on different lines. Right now I'm down to iOS and Android in my bag at this moment. The Android is sporadic, mostly my team uses it.
Is that like when Apple tried to push their firewire connection and it failed? I really wonder if this possible dropping of the headphone jack on its phones, tablets? and laptops? won't eventually backfire on Apple too!
I agree.They never did manage to capture the success of the S5 again ever since they removed it
So they made larger iPhones because sales tanked?
Samsung doesn't have a cult following? Plenty of threads in plenty of forums would show otherwise.
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That soilution doesn't really relate to someone needing to charge their phone at some point later in the day even if it's fully charged before they leave the house.
I agree it's not a huge deal but it is a minor pain for which I can see no purpose. I currently have the option of using Bluetooth or lightning headphones or conventional headphones. Holy crap how lucky is that!
Now Apple will want me to give up and adapt to the loss of one third of my available options for no reason that I can discern. They're not offering an exciting new form factor that necessitates the loss of the 3.5 mm jack. They're just doing this to do this, as far as I'm concerned.
Sure THEY may have a great reason from their perspective. I could sit here and guess at it if I we're bored enough. But guess what, I don't care. I'm not here to look out for Apple. I'm here to look out for what I want. Losing a perfectly good option and rolling over and taking it quietly is not in my best interests.
I have enough going on in my life that I have to go out of my way to accommodate. If I don't need to go out of my way to indulge Apple on this, I'm not going to. Not without something in return. I'll see this September if they are offering something I'd feel is a fair exchange for the loss of a perfectly good option.
That's a fascinating story. Let me reword the question I asked because your inability to empathize with others and constantly talk about yourself is staggering (EDD?).
Ok so you are a cop, you don't drive between buildings with outlets (majority of the US population aren't office workers) but you want audio out and want your phone charged. Is it really that ridiculous to plug both in?
You can replace cop with anything, emt, DNR, plumber, electrician, various construction workers, HVAC tech, postal worker, ups, FedEx, pizza guy, truck driver, endless list really. Or a job where someone doesn't want to leave their device unattended to charge, teacher, waitress/waiter, factory worker, fast food, cashier at anyplace that sells anything, another endless list...
I just changed carriers this month. My 6+ is under contract with the other carrier. I couldn't get it unlocked until the new carrier took care of ETF, so I had to choose a new phone. I didn't want the current iPhone 6s+ with the iPhone 7 around the corner... so I got the Samsung S7 Edge. This phone leaps over my 6+ and my wife's 6s in look/feel/function/features. I am still a fan of iPhone's... but the S7 Edge might be the phone that makes me think of skipping this years iPhone. However, I bought every non-s model since the 1st generation... so I'll probably buy one. My 6+ is unlocked now... so I swap sims back and forth once in a while to get my iOS fill... and because a new JB came out LOL... but sim is mostly in my S7 Edge... best phone I bought in a long time and has a lot a features I would like to see in the next iPhone. As far as the removal of the head phone jack... I don't know if I'll miss it or not if it comes with an adapter. As far as charging the phone if the lightning port is occupied... maybe Apple will surprise us with wireless charging??? Wireless charging is one of the features I really like on the S7 edge. I haven't used the charging port since I bought it.
On the S7 Edge... battery efficiency is as good or better than my 6+. I think I'm a heavy usage person... my 6+ I average +- 40gb of data/mo. I'm on a short cycle with current carrier... and my usage page has 345 voice, 1303 msg, and 22.27gb data since July 9th. I'm up for work at 6am when pull my phone off the charger... and have +-30% when I put my phone back on charger at 11pm. On light usage days... I'm above 50% when it goes back on the charger. I've only had iPhone's so I don't think much or a removable battery. The 3600 mAh battery is good enough for me... plus, I think phones look classy without a removable battery cover.
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OK. This is epic in its hilarity.
You DO realise you DID ask me what I would do, right? Allow me to quote the question you posed to me.
So I answered a question which directly asked *me* what *I* would do. And then you have a fit because I did exactly what you asked me to do.
If I were a cop or EMT and I'm listening to music plugged into a wired headset while on the job, I'd deserve to be fired. And if a cop or an EMT has an issue deciding what to do given that situation, they haven't got the temperament for the job. Electricians who are wired and listening to music while in the job deserve to get zapped. Any person working in a service industry who is in the job should not have cables plugged into their heads. (I have this mental image of a diner with the waitress popping bubble gum and coming at my table "whaddaya want?" ) Construction workers, with all that equipment around them, have noise cancelling ear protection so discount them. Pizza driver depending on the state would get a ticket if they're plugged in.
What other scenario are you going to get into? At the gym???? You know how ridiculous people look with cables dangling out of their heads while doing weights or any weight machine? Aside from being a menace to themselves???
NASA???? Astronauts having to decide between plugging into their phones to listen to music or charging while missing the sequence for navigating the Shuttle's next iteration?
No, I don't empathise with people who have a nervous breakdown over a headphone jack. Suck it up. Grow up. Man up. Whatever.
Or get a Samsung.
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The biggest point is WHY? I don't see any point of removing audio jack. It doesn't make iPhone to be thinner too base on leaked iPhone 7. Also, USB-C port is a better choice instead of lighting port. There is no point to use lighting port headphones and earphones since USB-C IS the standard.
OK. This is epic in its hilarity.
You DO realise you DID ask me what I would do, right? Allow me to quote the question you posed to me.
So I answered a question which directly asked *me* what *I* would do. And then you have a fit because I did exactly what you asked me to do.
If I were a cop or EMT and I'm listening to music plugged into a wired headset while on the job, I'd deserve to be fired. And if a cop or an EMT has an issue deciding what to do given that situation, they haven't got the temperament for the job. Electricians who are wired and listening to music while in the job deserve to get zapped. Any person working in a service industry who is in the job should not have cables plugged into their heads. (I have this mental image of a diner with the waitress popping bubble gum and coming at my table "whaddaya want?" ) Construction workers, with all that equipment around them, have noise cancelling ear protection so discount them. Pizza driver depending on the state would get a ticket if they're plugged in.
What other scenario are you going to get into? At the gym???? You know how ridiculous people look with cables dangling out of their heads while doing weights or any weight machine? Aside from being a menace to themselves???
NASA???? Astronauts having to decide between plugging into their phones to listen to music or charging while missing the sequence for navigating the Shuttle's next iteration?
No, I don't empathise with people who have a nervous breakdown over a headphone jack. Suck it up. Grow up. Man up. Whatever.
Or get a Samsung.
How is it possible for you to not know I'm talking about driving using AUX in for the vehicle? You even requoted my initial quote. I clearly gave you way too much credit.
Even if you are incapable of making that trivial step in logic based on the conversation you still managed to overlooked that all of those first group of occupations require driving. I even said truck driver....did you really think I meant when the truck driver got to a truck stop? Really?
Cops and EMT's deserve to get fired? Electricians deserved to get zapped? Nice.
So then the person that lacks the ability maintain a conversation and wishes ill will on people (for any reason) tells me (or whoever) to grow up?! Hahah I must be taking crazy pills.
I blame myself really, I had you on my ignore list for several months then I cleared it. Bad decision on my behalf, one I won't make again.
My impact is that I will likely move away from the iPhone. As has been mentioned before, the need to keep yet another device charged is a negative.
Also, I have found, many times connecting an AUX cord makes audio more dynamic in a Bluetooth enabled vehicle. Likewise, bluetooth headphone quality lacks IMO.
Requiring your phone to keep bluetooth on will drain the battery faster.
It eliminates the ability to charge your phone while wearing headphones.
If you have a 5 hour plane ride, you need to worry about two devices keeping charge, with no ability to charge the phone unless you carry 25 adapters with you. It seems that the more simplistic technology is getting, the more adapters/baggage it is requiring the end user to have, negating the simplistic nature of it.
Major negative that I feel will hurt sales tremendously.
Also, I have found, many times connecting an AUX cord makes audio more dynamic in a Bluetooth enabled vehicle. Likewise, bluetooth headphone quality lacks IMO.
Requiring your phone to keep bluetooth on will drain the battery faster.
It eliminates the ability to charge your phone while wearing headphones.
If you have a 5 hour plane ride, you need to worry about two devices keeping charge, with no ability to charge the phone unless you carry 25 adapters with you. It seems that the more simplistic technology is getting, the more adapters/baggage it is requiring the end user to have, negating the simplistic nature of it.
Major negative that I feel will hurt sales tremendously.
USB-C is a lot bigger than lightning, and they will be pushing wireless as the new standard not Lightning or USB-C. One of the reasons we may not see lightning EarPods shipped in the box.
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I think their wireless EarPods (or "AirPods") will have good battery life as Apple seem to be good at with almost every product other than the iPhone/iPod Touch, especially their wireless accessories. Along with this it would make sense for them to have fast charging through Lightning. Also I assume Apple will ensure the quality is good, and if it is BT5 then that should help. I guess the downside is it will be another overpriced Apple accessory.
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Yeah there's no good solution and the technology isn't there to replace 3.5mm yet. Having aid that Apple usually removes a lot of the downsides when they create a 1st party accessory so hopefully they do the same here.
Usb-C is a lot bigger than lightning? Way to exaggerate. MotoZ force is alot thinner than the iPhone (5.2mm) and it has usb-c.
What happens if Apple includes wired lightning earpods? Will that finally put an end to the notion "apple wants to go fully wireless"?
A lot thinner than the iPhone? 1.9mm being a lot isn't exaggerating?
Relatively speaking, 55% taller is a lot. Of course you can go thinner with USB-C, but it still takes up more space internally and saving mms of space internally (on iPhone at least) is very important. They also may not want to share the MacBook and iOS device connectors, but I can imagine a very important reason is that they have already built up an ecosystem around Lightning with both products and accessories.
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