Apps Infuse for Apple TV Released

[firecore]

Can I expect the stuttering picture also been resolved with this update?

A number of various playback improvements aimed at addressing a handful of reports we've received will also be included.

If you're seeing a specific playback issue, please drop us a quick note with a few details so we can look into it. https://firecore.com/contact

I noticed the free app in ATV 4 does not offer more than that option with "SMB protocol" (don't know what that is) for adding files. In the IPP 9.7, the free app has more alternatives. Does that mean if:

- I purchase the app for IPP 9,7, will I have to do it again for ATV 4? Or simply the Pro/paid app from the iPAD will appear for ATV 4 in my "previous purchases not in the ATV" and I'll have all options I need to add files using my PC browser?

For example, I tested VLC and the IP 192.168.1.104 and was able to add one file.MP4 to ATV... However, VLC lacks everything compared to Infuse, so it was only a test (I received my ATV for the 1st time yesterday, still checking some things).

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P.S. One last question: will all files I upload to Infuse remain stored in ATV 4 for future use?

At least in VLC it's working that way. Don't know if sometime the ATV itself will remove them.

1. The Apple TV version will feature the same streaming options as available on iOS. Infuse will auto-detect shares listed as available on your network. You can also specify your own connection settings by selecting the 'Other' option.

2. A single Pro purchase will work on all your devices (iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV). Just be sure you're downloading the same version you have on iOS (Free + IAP or Paid App).

3. The Apple TV is streaming only, and Apple frowns against apps that require/allow local file storage. FWIW, files stored in VLC will be removed without notice by the Apple TV from time to time.

 

[Perene]

I only have a PC (plus the ATV 4), and want to send a file using Chrome (for example, using an address that looks like 192.168.1.104:8000). What kind of protocol should I select inside Infuse? The options (free version) are:

- SMB
- WedDAV
- WedDAV (HTTPS)
- FTP
- SFTP

2 - When I asked about storing a video locally, I meant this:

- Do I need to keep the PC on for the video to be played at all?

What I am seeing here in VLC is this: the video is 100% sent (using wi-fi), then it remains stored in ATV 4. When I disable the 192.168.1.104 connection (inside VLC in ATV), it stays there.

Now, if the file itself is removed later (when?), I have no idea.

I mean, is it removed when the ATV hibernates?

A day later?

All I know is that I can still play. That's why I asked if Infuse works in a similar way.

P.S. If the file is stored in ATV 4 and removed some time in the future, that's OK, but I need for it to remain there for a while and my PC turned off, at least.

 

[firecore]

I only have a PC (plus the ATV 4), and want to send a file using Chrome (for example, using an address that looks like 192.168.1.104:8000). What kind of protocol should I select inside Infuse? The options (free version) are:

- SMB
- WedDAV
- WedDAV (HTTPS)
- FTP
- SFTP

2 - When I asked about storing a video locally, I meant this:

- Do I need to keep the PC on for the video to be played at all?

What I am seeing here in VLC is this: the video is 100% sent (using wi-fi), then it remains stored in ATV 4. When I disable the 192.168.1.104 connection (inside VLC in ATV), it stays there.

Now, if the file itself is removed later (when?), I have no idea.

I mean, is it removed when the ATV hibernates?

A day later?

All I know is that I can still play. That's why I asked if Infuse works in a similar way.

P.S. If the file is stored in ATV 4 and removed some time in the future, that's OK, but I need for it to remain there for a while and my PC turned off, at least.

Infuse does not support storing files locally on the Apple TV.

This is a feature some other apps have hacked in, but it is not in line with Apple's guidelines.

Sorry.

 

[Perene]

Infuse does not support storing files locally on the Apple TV.

This is a feature some other apps have hacked in, but it is not in line with Apple's guidelines.

Sorry.

So that means you are using wi-fi and streaming the file itself from the PC?

I have no idea how that even works in terms of quality. Perhaps you may clarify the following:

* If you use AirPlay and mirror a Matroska (lossless) from a Blu-ray (created with help from MakeMKV, so it's really lossless and not just a lossy copy), the quality will be (for example) from 1 to 10, 7.

If you use VLC and store that same MKV locally, it will be 10.

If I stream the file from my PC, even without storing locally (now using Infuse Pro), will it be 7 or 10? Remember that 7 is what you get if you use AirPlay and a random iPAD player.

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Anyway...
I don't understand how VLC, which is inferior to your app, can do this, and yours cannot. I am not sure what you mean, how is this violating any rule? I am asking because VLC is available since forever in the Apple-Store.

So if what you say can even justify Apple removing VLC from the ATV, one has to wonder WHY the app it's still there.

And I must say ATV does lack everything I had for the IPP... even a paid app I have here (nPlayer) isn't available.

 

[firecore]

So that means you are using wi-fi and streaming the file itself from the PC?

I have no idea how that even works in terms of quality. Perhaps you may clarify the following:

* If you use AirPlay and mirror a Matroska (lossless) from a Blu-ray (created with help from MakeMKV, so it's really lossless and not just a lossy copy), the quality will be (for example) from 1 to 10, 7.

If you use VLC and store that same MKV locally, it will be 10.

If I stream the file from my PC, even without storing locally (now using Infuse Pro), will it be 7 or 10? Remember that 7 is what you get if you use AirPlay and a random iPAD player.

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Anyway...
I don't understand how VLC, which is inferior to your app, can do this, and yours cannot. I am not sure what you mean, how is this violating any rule? I am asking because VLC is available since forever in the Apple-Store.

So if what you say can even justify Apple removing VLC from the ATV, one has to wonder WHY the app it's still there.

And I must say ATV does lack everything I had for the IPP... even a paid app I have here (nPlayer) isn't available.

It depends.

If the video is h.264 based, Infuse for iOS can stream it via native AirPlay which will result in zero loss of quality (in other words, it would be a 10). If it's not h.264 based, Infuse will fallback to AirPlay mirroring, which won't be quite as good (probably a 7 like you have experienced).

When using Infuse on the Apple TV, and streaming a file stored on a Mac, PC, or NAS there will be no loss in quality whatsoever. Infuse will display the videos at their full resolution/bitrate. You'll even be able to enjoy 7.1 channel 24-bit HD audio (if included in the video).

Hope this helps.

 

[Perene]

Hope this helps.

I forgot to ask you if somehow resume playback is available in Infuse for ATV. When I tried to open different videos in VLC, I haven't found such thing.

Also in VLC (and this I don't know if it's just me), when I swipe down the Remote control to alternate between audio/sub tracks, sometimes that doesn't work and you fast forward instead.

Maybe it takes practice... Or sometimes the ATV becomes unresponsive? Or perhaps we need to pause first and only then swipe down? How is that working for you?

 

[firecore]

I forgot to ask you if somehow resume playback is available in Infuse for ATV. When I tried to open different videos in VLC, I haven't found such thing.

Also in VLC (and this I don't know if it's just me), when I swipe down the Remote control to alternate between audio/sub tracks, sometimes that doesn't work and you fast forward instead.

Maybe it takes practice... Or sometimes the ATV becomes unresponsive? Or perhaps we need to pause first and only then swipe down? How is that working for you?

Yes, resume is available in Infuse. In fact, you can keep multiple devices in sync by logging into trakt.

I can't comment on how VLC works, since Infuse is an entirely separate app.

 

[Perene]

Yes, resume is available in Infuse. In fact, you can keep multiple devices in sync by logging into trakt.

I can't comment on how VLC works, since Infuse is an entirely separate app.

I checked Infuse, and was able to browse my folders, and played a video from them. Like you said, it's all done without storing locally, so once the content isn't there, Infuse can't see it (even if you just move the file to another folder).

But, I have a problem: it is only displaying the contents from C:.

C: is where my Win10-64 bit is installed (SSD with only 120 GB), but all my files are actually available in E: (1 TB HDD). How do I configure Windows/Infuse to access this drive?

Edit: Thanks firecore, it can see my E: drive now.

And to answer my own question: the swipe down in Infuse is working as it should.

 

[firecore]

I checked Infuse, and was able to browse my folders, and played a video from them. Like you said, it's all done without storing locally, so once the content isn't there, Infuse can't see it (even if you just move the file to another folder).

But, I have a problem: it is only displaying the contents from C:.

C: is where my Win10-64 bit is installed (SSD with only 120 GB), but all my files are actually available in E: (1 TB HDD). How do I configure Windows/Infuse to access this drive?

You may want to check and ensure the other drives/folders are shared so Infuse can see them

A guide that may help with this can be found here.
http://www.geeksquad.co.uk/articles/how-to-set-up-file-sharing-on-windows-10

 

[Perene]

Just bought the app. I think is great, but to be perfect it would need to have in a future release these options (that may seem unimportant at first, but they definitely make a difference, and are more feasible than anything ever suggested for this app, I am sure):

https://goo.gl/DpEhdb

I like to "play with my fingers" when watching videos in nPlayer, and when I pinch the iPAD screen with it the subtitle can be adjusted more easily. In Infuse you can't move the subtitle vertically, or enlarge/decrease its size in the same way. Sure you can do both things in the menu, the thing is: if you compare both players, you'll know what I mean when saying this is worse in Infuse.

For example, this video: https://mega.nz/#!pY1EQJQS!nsY1xunm3LTcHVOxXmGOSa1pS6gty7wk5Hcx-u-n4Rk

Has one of its lines (it's an excerpt with 2 minutes) configured in a way that when you watch it in Infuse, the only way for it to not be over the movie's image is to decrease the subtitle size.

However, in this specific case, it's either small or regular size, and the rest of the lines need to be in regular size (the ideal setting), just this one needs to have an option between small and regular. I can't explain this properly, you have to see it in both players to know what I mean.

As for the rest of gestures, one of them is DOUBLE TAP = Play/Pause.

I like pausing the video quickly, and resume playback with the same gesture. In Infuse, this can't be done, the same gesture can only zoom the picture. Then there's another gesture (swipe up) that adjusts the brightness of your iPAD. I don't like this enabled (the same about the volume), so you are not seeing either configured in that goo.gl link.

In Infuse, you are stuck with these gestures by default, and can't edit them. At least I haven't found that option. So my only recourse when I want to pause/play* is to use the built-in remote from my EarPods. This built-in remote lets you adjust the volume, control the playback of music and video, and answer or end calls with a pinch of the cord.

* Play = Resume playback after pausing

The problem with that is that I intend to buy the AirPods (they don't have this), so I will need to rely on the iPAD screen in the future. I'll need to double tap to pause/resume. Among other finger gestures, check the goo.gl link to have an idea how I use it here.

As for Apple-TV, no way VLC can be compared. While VLC can store locally, I found it to be worse when using the remote control, and like I said, there's no resume playback in VLC.

P.S.

About the subtitles, I noticed something odd: you can't make any adjustment in both nPlayer/Infuse for the sub tracks from 2001: A Space Odyssey (the MKV lossless generated from the Blu-ray). But you can do that with both players for that 2 minute excerpt from FN 2 (Mega.nz download link posted above). I went to check them, and found this:

FN 2:
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text

2001: Space Odyssey (19 GB)

Format : PGS
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs

So, this last one can't be altered in any way. In nPlayer I pinched to increase/decrease the size, and move up and down subs, except this one isn't allowing that.

The only setting that can modify 2001's sub tracks is in Infuse, to move upwards, but that won't help because the subtitle is already in the image.

 

[ganja24]

Are future updates free or is there a upgrade fee? For example if version 5 was to be released will it be a free upgrade
From version 4.x

 

[firecore]

Just bought the app. I think is great, but to be perfect it would need to have in a future release these options (that may seem unimportant at first, but they definitely make a difference, and are more feasible than anything ever suggested for this app, I am sure):

https://goo.gl/DpEhdb

I like to "play with my fingers" when watching videos in nPlayer, and when I pinch the iPAD screen with it the subtitle can be adjusted more easily. In Infuse you can't move the subtitle vertically, or enlarge/decrease its size in the same way. Sure you can do both things in the menu, the thing is: if you compare both players, you'll know what I mean when saying this is worse in Infuse.

For example, this video: https://mega.nz/#!pY1EQJQS!nsY1xunm3LTcHVOxXmGOSa1pS6gty7wk5Hcx-u-n4Rk

Has one of its lines (it's an excerpt with 2 minutes) configured in a way that when you watch it in Infuse, the only way for it to not be over the movie's image is to decrease the subtitle size.

However, in this specific case, it's either small or regular size, and the rest of the lines need to be in regular size (the ideal setting), just this one needs to have an option between small and regular. I can't explain this properly, you have to see it in both players to know what I mean.

As for the rest of gestures, one of them is DOUBLE TAP = Play/Pause.

I like pausing the video quickly, and resume playback with the same gesture. In Infuse, this can't be done, the same gesture can only zoom the picture. Then there's another gesture (swipe up) that adjusts the brightness of your iPAD. I don't like this enabled (the same about the volume), so you are not seeing either configured in that goo.gl link.

In Infuse, you are stuck with these gestures by default, and can't edit them. At least I haven't found that option. So my only recourse when I want to pause/play* is to use the built-in remote from my EarPods. This built-in remote lets you adjust the volume, control the playback of music and video, and answer or end calls with a pinch of the cord.

* Play = Resume playback after pausing

The problem with that is that I intend to buy the AirPods (they don't have this), so I will need to rely on the iPAD screen in the future. I'll need to double tap to pause/resume. Among other finger gestures, check the goo.gl link to have an idea how I use it here.

As for Apple-TV, no way VLC can be compared. While VLC can store locally, I found it to be worse when using the remote control, and like I said, there's no resume playback in VLC.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I will definitely pass this along and see what we can do.

FWIW, a 2-finger tap can be used to play/pause the video in the current version.

Are future updates free or is there a upgrade fee? For example if version 5 was to be released will it be a free upgrade
From version 4.x

We don't have any specific pricing info with regards to future versions available at this time. Sorry.

 

[Perene]

I am having an unusual problem now... and this is confirmed to be happening because of Infuse. My PC is turned off (Windows 10), but keeps waking on when Infuse is opened. I tried disabling wake on pattern match and "wake on magic packet only", checked the BIOS... nothing. The only thing I did was to share my Hard drive with the app. Do you have any idea what kind of setting needs to be disabled for this to never happen again?

Edit: the PC is not turning on again now, even when I open Infuse. I turned off yesterday before sleeping, and at that time it was doing every single time I opened the app.

I guess it must have been some sort of temporary bug in Windows 10, since I tried to change everything and didn't work, I was getting desperate here.

 

[Moriske]

A number of various playback improvements aimed at addressing a handful of reports we've received will also be included.

Will the stuttering of reference movies like The Dark Knight, Avatar, etc ... have disappeared with the new update?
Will Atmos also belongs now to the possibilities?

 

[firecore]

I am having an unusual problem now... and this is confirmed to be happening because of Infuse. My PC is turned off (Windows 10), but keeps waking on when Infuse is opened. I tried disabling wake on pattern match and "wake on magic packet only", checked the BIOS... nothing. The only thing I did was to share my Hard drive with the app. Do you have any idea what kind of setting needs to be disabled for this to never happen again?

Edit: the PC is not turning on again now, even when I open Infuse. I turned off yesterday before sleeping, and at that time it was doing every single time I opened the app.

I guess it must have been some sort of temporary bug in Windows 10, since I tried to change everything and didn't work, I was getting desperate here.

Great!

Will the stuttering of reference movies like The Dark Knight, Avatar, etc ... have disappeared with the new update?
Will Atmos also belongs now to the possibilities?

We've been working on a new implementation for VC-1 video which we hope to include in the next version. This should allow for dramatic playback improvements for titles like these.

With regard to Atmos, this is something that needs to be implemented at the hardware level by Apple, unfortunately.

 

[Perene]

Relevant question:

I have a few MKV lossless extracted from Blu-rays. This is one:
http://pastebin.com/criP0yYJ

And this is a random rip:
http://pastebin.com/aDEiRGfx

As you can see, the 2nd file demands a lot less from my Intel i7 4770 PC or wi-fi connection (router: DIR-809) to be streamed into Infuse or any other player.

However, when I try to stream the 1st kind of file, sometimes when I fast-forward the movie, or during playback, it keeps LOADING (interrupting the streaming), as if the internet connection (I am using 50/5 Mbps) wasn't fast enough.

And this is happening even if the PC/internet aren't being used, and happens with any player I use here (it isn't limited to Infuse). It happens only with the most powerful (as in using more CPU resources) files. Only those.

So my question is: how can I improve the streaming? Who is the culprit?

Oh, I am streaming the 1st file from this Hard Drive: WD10EZEX (1 TB, 7200 RPM). I tried from my SSD (C: ) and the results were the same.

I also wonder if removing Windows 10-64 and using Win7 or any other version that demands less from my CPU could improve things.

Can you elaborate on that, firecore? I think I read someone explain that a lossless Blu-ray file demands 30 Mbps or something to be streamed, but I can't find the explanation. Or perhaps the lag is from the IPP 9.7 itself?

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P.S. I did some tests here and discovered that my DIR-809 can send contents to my iPAD at the speed of 10 MB/s. In that case, it is sent directly using an address such as 192.168.1.104:8000.

P.P.S: I haven't checked how the streaming from the 1st file works in ATV, so assume my question is for iOS only. Still, whatever I need to do here to stream properly, it will benefit the ATV at the same time.

 

[firecore]

Relevant question:

I have a few MKV lossless extracted from Blu-rays. This is one:
http://pastebin.com/criP0yYJ

And this is a random rip:
http://pastebin.com/aDEiRGfx

As you can see, the 2nd file demands a lot less from my Intel i7 4770 PC or wi-fi connection (router: DIR-809) to be streamed into Infuse or any other player.

However, when I try to stream the 1st kind of file, sometimes when I fast-forward the movie, or during playback, it keeps LOADING (interrupting the streaming), as if the internet connection (I am using 50/5 Mbps) wasn't fast enough.

And this is happening even if the PC/internet aren't being used, and happens with any player I use here (it isn't limited to Infuse). It happens only with the most powerful (as in using more CPU resources) files. Only those.

So my question is: how can I improve the streaming? Who is the culprit?

Oh, I am streaming the 1st file from this Hard Drive: WD10EZEX (1 TB, 7200 RPM). I tried from my SSD (C: ) and the results were the same.

I also wonder if removing Windows 10-64 and using Win7 or any other version that demands less from my CPU could improve things.

Can you elaborate on that, firecore? I think I read someone explain that a lossless Blu-ray file demands 30 Mbps or something to be streamed, but I can't find the explanation. Or perhaps the lag is from the IPP 9.7 itself?

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P.S. I did some tests here and discovered that my DIR-809 can send contents to my iPAD at the speed of 10 MB/s. In that case, it is sent directly using an address such as 192.168.1.104:8000.

P.P.S: I haven't checked how the streaming from the 1st file works in ATV, so assume my question is for iOS only. Still, whatever I need to do here to stream properly, it will benefit the ATV at the same time.

How is the Wi-Fi signal where the device is being used?

The first video features a bitrate of 28.9 Mb/s - so you would need at least that much Wi-Fi bandwidth in order to stream reliably. If possible, switching to a 5GHz 802.11ac network will usually provide the best possible streaming performance.

 

[Perene]

OK, here's what I discovered:

This router can only send data at the speed of 10 MB/s AT BEST.

So when I try to play, for example, the Back to the Future (Matroska lossless from the Blu-ray), which is quite a huge file, or the Superman: The Movie MKV in the same situation, both with multiple audio/subtitle tracks, I am using more or less 7 MB/s (confirmed these figures today).

I know that leaves 3 MB/s - the thing is, it sends at 10 MB/s files, when it comes to streaming at 7 MB/s, maybe it needed to be a device that could send at 30 MB/s or more (gigabit router), for it to handle such a pressure.

If you know what I mean... Some routers, for example, can have issues due to insufficient internal memory, that kind of problem.

The router in question, while it is dual band 2.4/5 GHz, since it's not a gigabit router, sometimes it can have a lag while playing this kind of file. But only THESE KINDS OF FILES. Not your average 1, 2 GB rip from the internet.

1) It never hangs with smaller files. Confirmed for both players, and using IPP/ATV;

2) It never stutters with these aforementioned huge MKV files while I use ATV 4. And this doesn't happen in the IPP 9.7 either, even using nPlayer.

So when did this ever happen in the IPP/ATV? Read below:

2.1) If you skip to another portion of the file, say, if you fast-forward from 1m30s to 22m13s, this can, sometimes, force you to wait seconds for the video to load, as if it was too heavy or the connection wasn't fast enough.

What I have no idea is what's causing this. I'll find out soon, once I purchase a gigabit router.

I also found (and this is only in nPlayer - Infuse doesn't have these) settings for accessing the network. Maybe you can shed some light on what they mean:

https://goo.gl/ilnTlW

I know that you didn't create this app, forgive me for mentioning again. It's just that these options pertain to this line of questioning. Think with me:

- If there is some setting that can make the buffering of these streams (from these huge files) faster or more efficient, then what setting can make a difference here? I mean, for the iPAD and/or ATV?

Or maybe the IPP 9.7 isn't that fast to fast-forward a video of this size without some loading time. Fast in terms of CPU.

I think this might not be the case (what about the 4K videos? I can play them in the IPP 9.7), and perhaps this is related to the overall speed from the PC that is broadcasting that content, for example, would it make any difference if that huge MKV was located in a SSD, instead of the WD Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)? Or maybe if the drive needed a defrag this could happen? Since it's accessing 20-25 GB at once, from different areas of that drive, and not just a small portion of the drive?

More RAM?

I'll stick with the fact the router isn't gigabit. Fortunately it can continue the playback (haven't tried, guess it can play 100% from the start without hiccups) without a single interruption in my current case, in both ATV and IPP, it's just that it will need to load if you switch some audio track from these huge Matroskas or fast-forward to another moment.

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And about what I said before, that Infuse was turning my computer on after I turned it off, it was still happening, and happened today. And now I have a video to prove that. Please take note of all these facts:

I decided to update my BIOS, and changed a few settings to try correcting this. This is the PC I am using:

Core i7 4770, and MB: Gigabyte H97M-D3H, plus Win10-64 bit and one RAM 8 GB (Corsair DDR-3 1600mhz Vengeance - CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10).

Video: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series (R7-265)

HDD WD Blue 1 TB
2nd HDD: the Samsung 750 GB (753LJ - old, 6-7 years old, but still works)
SSD Samsung EVO 840 120 GB (where the OS is installed)

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212X
PSU: Seasonic ATX 520W S12II-520 Bronze

This is the case: "Gamer PCYES Rhino Preto 3 Fans 120mm".

And if I am not mistaken, a 2nd cooler was bought later. The age of these components? 2-3 years.

As you can see from these videos:

https://goo.gl/nsUkIm
https://goo.gl/8WlBSD

This computer was turned off, then Infuse (yesterday at night) turned on, and it went berserk that way. Of course this is something wrong inside the case (not the app's fault), meaning I need to check the PSU, clean the memory slots, check the cooler... After I turned off for 10-20 minutes, and turned on (unplugging from the eletrical current this time), the PC started and everything was back to normal.

Then I updated the BIOS, and after I restarted Windows, what you see in these videos happened AGAIN. This time Infuse didn't startled the machine. So there's something funny going on there. Don't think it's the Hard Drives fault, HDTune said their health is 100% OK (for both the WD 1 TB and the SSD where Windows is located).

So that means the machine was doing this at random, uh? Infuse had nothing to do with it in the first place?

Well, sadly, no. Check this video ASAP:

Before I recorded this, I checked all the settings related to WAKE ON LAN. Just to make sure they were indeed disabled:

https://goo.gl/0DAaTp

Everything says it's disabled, the BIOS doesn't have any option (not that I know of) that is triggering this...

Then, as you can see from this video, nPlayer and Infuse are accessing my Hard-Drives and all contents...

I turn the machine off at 1m50s.

The internet is still on, but the Windows shut it off the computer.

Note that I open nPlayer at 2m40s. Nothing happens. It can't access the contents because the PC is off. At 3:11 Infuse is trying to do this.

>>>>>>>> Nothing happens again with the PC. At 3m39s you can see Infuse fails to load.

Now watch what I did at 4m35s: closed both apps. Since they were opened already, I couldn't be sure of anything. Reopening would remove all doubt.

I reopened Infuse at 4m43s. And tried to access the contents from my Hard Drives again (SMB protocol, with my Windows 10 login/password).

At 4m48s the machine turns on again! This time it does not present the issues I was experiencing in those two Goo.gl links:
https://goo.gl/nsUkIm
https://goo.gl/8WlBSD

Still, as you can see from the rest of this video, Infuse by itself turns the machine on. I didn't ask for it, I don't have ANY OTHER DEVICE THAT IS DOING THE SAME... but an app from my iPAD is doing this trick.

And I never heard about this wake-on-lan ever before... to give you an idea how surprised I was when this happened for the 1st time.

Now, as you may have imagined, I need to either stop using Infuse or at least turn the wi-fi off/don't even open the app.

That's right, simply by using the app this happens.

I am open to suggestions as to how fix what you see at 4m48s for good. I am not saying the app is doing that on purpose, but it is happening because of it, there's no question about it.

*****

Edit: I spoke too soon. Now the PC won't start, and it's beeping. I'll investigate if this is related to infuse waking it remotely. It must be some faulty component from the motherboard that is doing this, even though infuse is the only app triggering. Once the beeping is gone, I'll test and report here if infuse does it again.

As for the first comments, check this thread:
https://firecore.com/forum/topic/14185

 

[firecore]

OK, here's what I discovered:

This router can only send data at the speed of 10 MB/s AT BEST.

So when I try to play, for example, the Back to the Future (Matroska lossless from the Blu-ray), which is quite a huge file, or the Superman: The Movie MKV in the same situation, both with multiple audio/subtitle tracks, I am using more or less 7 MB/s (confirmed these figures today).

I know that leaves 3 MB/s - the thing is, it sends at 10 MB/s files, when it comes to streaming at 7 MB/s, maybe it needed to be a device that could send at 30 MB/s or more (gigabit router), for it to handle such a pressure.

If you know what I mean... Some routers, for example, can have issues due to insufficient internal memory, that kind of problem.

The router in question, while it is dual band 2.4/5 GHz, since it's not a gigabit router, sometimes it can have a lag while playing this kind of file. But only THESE KINDS OF FILES. Not your average 1, 2 GB rip from the internet.

1) It never hangs with smaller files. Confirmed for both players, and using IPP/ATV;

2) It never stutters with these aforementioned huge MKV files while I use ATV 4. And this doesn't happen in the IPP 9.7 either, even using nPlayer.

So when did this ever happen in the IPP/ATV? Read below:

2.1) If you skip to another portion of the file, say, if you fast-forward from 1m30s to 22m13s, this can, sometimes, force you to wait seconds for the video to load, as if it was too heavy or the connection wasn't fast enough.

What I have no idea is what's causing this. I'll find out soon, once I purchase a gigabit router.

I also found (and this is only in nPlayer - Infuse doesn't have these) settings for accessing the network. Maybe you can shed some light on what they mean:

https://goo.gl/ilnTlW

I know that you didn't create this app, forgive me for mentioning again. It's just that these options pertain to this line of questioning. Think with me:

- If there is some setting that can make the buffering of these streams (from these huge files) faster or more efficient, then what setting can make a difference here? I mean, for the iPAD and/or ATV?

Or maybe the IPP 9.7 isn't that fast to fast-forward a video of this size without some loading time. Fast in terms of CPU.

I think this might not be the case (what about the 4K videos? I can play them in the IPP 9.7), and perhaps this is related to the overall speed from the PC that is broadcasting that content, for example, would it make any difference if that huge MKV was located in a SSD, instead of the WD Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)? Or maybe if the drive needed a defrag this could happen? Since it's accessing 20-25 GB at once, from different areas of that drive, and not just a small portion of the drive?

More RAM?

I'll stick with the fact the router isn't gigabit. Fortunately it can continue the playback (haven't tried, guess it can play 100% from the start without hiccups) without a single interruption in my current case, in both ATV and IPP, it's just that it will need to load if you switch some audio track from these huge Matroskas or fast-forward to another moment.

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And about what I said before, that Infuse was turning my computer on after I turned it off, it was still happening, and happened today. And now I have a video to prove that. Please take note of all these facts:

I decided to update my BIOS, and changed a few settings to try correcting this. This is the PC I am using:

Core i7 4770, and MB: Gigabyte H97M-D3H, plus Win10-64 bit and one RAM 8 GB (Corsair DDR-3 1600mhz Vengeance - CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10).

Video: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series (R7-265)

HDD WD Blue 1 TB
2nd HDD: the Samsung 750 GB (753LJ - old, 6-7 years old, but still works)
SSD Samsung EVO 840 120 GB (where the OS is installed)

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212X
PSU: Seasonic ATX 520W S12II-520 Bronze

This is the case: "Gamer PCYES Rhino Preto 3 Fans 120mm".

And if I am not mistaken, a 2nd cooler was bought later. The age of these components? 2-3 years.

As you can see from these videos:

https://goo.gl/nsUkIm
https://goo.gl/8WlBSD

This computer was turned off, then Infuse (yesterday at night) turned on, and it went berserk that way. Of course this is something wrong inside the case (not the app's fault), meaning I need to check the PSU, clean the memory slots, check the cooler... After I turned off for 10-20 minutes, and turned on (unplugging from the eletrical current this time), the PC started and everything was back to normal.

Then I updated the BIOS, and after I restarted Windows, what you see in these videos happened AGAIN. This time Infuse didn't startled the machine. So there's something funny going on there. Don't think it's the Hard Drives fault, HDTune said their health is 100% OK (for both the WD 1 TB and the SSD where Windows is located).

So that means the machine was doing this at random, uh? Infuse had nothing to do with it in the first place?

Well, sadly, no. Check this video ASAP:

Before I recorded this, I checked all the settings related to WAKE ON LAN. Just to make sure they were indeed disabled:

https://goo.gl/0DAaTp

Everything says it's disabled, the BIOS doesn't have any option (not that I know of) that is triggering this...

Then, as you can see from this video, nPlayer and Infuse are accessing my Hard-Drives and all contents...

I turn the machine off at 1m50s.

The internet is still on, but the Windows shut it off the computer.

Note that I open nPlayer at 2m40s. Nothing happens. It can't access the contents because the PC is off. At 3:11 Infuse is trying to do this.

>>>>>>>> Nothing happens again with the PC. At 3m39s you can see Infuse fails to load.

Now watch what I did at 4m35s: closed both apps. Since they were opened already, I couldn't be sure of anything. Reopening would remove all doubt.

I reopened Infuse at 4m43s. And tried to access the contents from my Hard Drives again (SMB protocol, with my Windows 10 login/password).

At 4m48s the machine turns on again! This time it does not present the issues I was experiencing in those two Goo.gl links:
https://goo.gl/nsUkIm
https://goo.gl/8WlBSD

Still, as you can see from the rest of this video, Infuse by itself turns the machine on. I didn't ask for it, I don't have ANY OTHER DEVICE THAT IS DOING THE SAME... but an app from my iPAD is doing this trick.

And I never heard about this wake-on-lan ever before... to give you an idea how surprised I was when this happened for the 1st time.

Now, as you may have imagined, I need to either stop using Infuse or at least turn the wi-fi off/don't even open the app.

That's right, simply by using the app this happens.

I am open to suggestions as to how fix what you see at 4m48s for good. I am not saying the app is doing that on purpose, but it is happening because of it, there's no question about it.

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Edit: I spoke too soon. Now the PC won't start, and it's beeping. I'll investigate if this is related to infuse waking it remotely. It must be some faulty component from the motherboard that is doing this, even though infuse is the only app triggering. Once the beeping is gone, I'll test and report here if infuse does it again.

As for the first comments, check this thread:
https://firecore.com/forum/topic/14185

It's probably more efficient if you open a support ticket, so we can directly assist with any other questions.
https://firecore.com/contact

Thanks!

 

[tgwaste]

Please give me a setting to honor my folder structure.

Stop ignoring the folder if there is only one episode in it. Stop trying to auto arrange the contents in the folders.

If I wanted software to force me into a paradigm I would use that piece of crap Plex.

 

[firecore]

Please give me a setting to honor my folder structure.

Stop ignoring the folder if there is only one episode in it. Stop trying to auto arrange the contents in the folders.

If I wanted software to force me into a paradigm I would use that piece of crap Plex.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[tgwaste]

I changed my rating for Infuse to 1 star and I will leave it as such until you STOP DELETING EMPTY FOLDERS.

That is absolute nonsense.

 

[BeefCake 15]

I changed my rating for Infuse to 1 star and I will leave it as such until you STOP DELETING EMPTY FOLDERS.

That is absolute nonsense.

Are you expecting a hostage negotiator to make you feel better, is that why you're posting this?

They're working hard trying to make many improvements and updates, the admin of Infuse is here answering questions and taking suggestions in less than a day turn around even hours in some cases...They told you a new update is coming soon and are working on even following up with more features, have some patience

 

[tgwaste]

Are you expecting a hostage negotiator to make you feel better, is that why you're posting this?

They're working hard trying to make many improvements and updates, the admin of Infuse is here answering questions and taking suggestions in less than a day turn around even hours in some cases...They told you a new update is coming soon and are working on even following up with more features, have some patience

I don't want features. I want the app to stop deleting data without my permission. If you don't understand how absurd that is you are hopeless.

 

[Rigby]

I don't want features. I want the app to stop deleting data without my permission. If you don't understand how absurd that is you are hopeless.

Not sure I understand the problem. If, say, I'm done watching a season and delete the last episode, why would I want the empty folder to stick around?