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Installing Snow Leopard (and Rosetta) into Parallels on modern Intel Macs

Why not? I do not have SLS and have no experience with it; but I could acquire it apparently. I do own and possess SL which I know runs my Adobe software successfully. Would SLS likely run such client software as well?
Any ideas why my SL in Parallels v8 under Mac OS X 10.8.3 stops where it does? I thought I'd followed the instructions discussed in this thread correctly.

Thank you.

MichaelLAX said:
Why not install Snow Leopard Server, which is installed more easily and is not prone to the corruption that effect Snow Leopard client if the environment is improperly shut down?
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consultmac said:
Why not? I do not have SLS and have no experience with it; but I could acquire it apparently. I do own and possess SL which I know runs my Adobe software successfully. Would SLS likely run such client software as well?
Any ideas why my SL in Parallels v8 under Mac OS X 10.8.3 stops where it does? I thought I'd followed the instructions discussed in this thread correctly.

Thank you.
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The reasons are historical:

All of the virtualization companies promote the easy installation of Snow Leopard Server into their programs, including Parallels.

When I personally upgraded my dead iMac G5 to a Mac Mini with Lion in August 2011, I, having not done my usually "due diligence" about an upgrade to a new version of OS X, discovered to my horror that Rosetta was no longer included in Lion!

This left me with, at that time, problems running my existing library of software; most notably Quicken Deluxe 2002 that I used daily and a spreadsheet from Excel 2004 that I used weekly that would get corrupted if I attempted to open it in Excel 2011.

Necessity being the mother of invention and Snow Leopard Server being sold by Apple for $499+, I determined that there must be a way to install Snow Leopard client in Parallels (my virtualization program of choice since upgrading to an Intel Mac some years ago), researched the issue on the internet, tinkered and ultimately came up with my detailed solution.

I first posted it on the Apple Community Support forums and then moved it here, when I discovered this forum to be more "post edit" friendly, so as to constantly be able to modify and amend my post #1 as I learned new information.

However, Apple ultimately threw in the towel and dropped the price of Snow Leopard Server by 95%; the same price as its client version - $20!

This version operates substantially the same as Snow Leopard client when installed into Parallels; I just remove the Server apps from the Dock, so as to not be confused by them.

So if Snow Leopard Server installs more easily into Parallels, and Snow Leopard Server operates more cleanly in Parallels than client (and that installation and operation is supported by Parallels, which opens their Tech Support to this installation and operation), then the only question remaining is the extra cost to purchase Snow Leopard Server - $20!

Now I cannot judge for you if this extra $20 expense is worthwhile; I can only judge that this extra $20 expense for you, is worth more to me than my support time on those who like the challenge to continue to attempt to install Snow Leopard client into Parallels.

If you are one of those who want to meet this challenge; all of the information you need is in Post #1 and the TIPS offered in Post #3 (and some collateral information than can be gleaned from reviewing the remainder of the posts in this thread).

That just leaves one group of users remaining: those outside of the USA & Canada, who cannot directly purchase Snow Leopard Server by calling the Apple Store. Again, I value my time more than the "cost" of technical support to help this group of people, so I have chosen to offer my assistance in purchasing copies of Snow Leopard Server from Apple and trans-shipping it to overseas users. I have already done this for users in Italy and the UK.

I hope that answers your questions: and GOOD LUCK!
 
I am obviously way late to the party regarding this issue, and am only moderately sad not to be in on getting SL working in my case, but I understand COMPLETELY and HEARTILY agree with your assessment of costs of purchasing solutions vs cost of support to continue to make a shoe-horn work. Especially now that you've made me optimistic about the likelihood of SLS running my Adobe software, I'm content to drop worrying about this issue and will pursue acquiring SLS instead.
Thanks a TON.
 
I am consistently surprised by the amount of people, who to this day, are still only now upgrading to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard. No one is late to this party...
 
I've ordered my copy of Snow Leopard Server and running that in Parallels will likely be my shortest path to getting my Abode products available to me again.

Another path that hasn't paid off yet, and I haven't completely given up on either, is getting an 'image' of my iMac drive (via dcfldd) to be accepted by VirtualBox as a recognizable and bootable drive. A couple of guys from DCFL showed me a Mac OS drive image (made via dcfldd) renamed with a .hdd extention actively booted and running under Virtual Box on their Windows 7 boxes; so I was assuming that I could do something similar. That experiment is not over yet, but if it doesn't work out soon, I'll likely toss it once my SLS DVD arrives.
 
Thank you for this fantastic guide! Everybody I know with a mac has used this to great success.

I have a problem though: in step three, I can't find "prl-tools-mac.iso." I'm not sure why this is giving me trouble, but if you could provide any insight, I would be grateful.
 
Parallels 8: These instructions will work for Parallels 8. In STEP THREE #1: Parallels Tools is built into the main program in Parallels 8, so there is no need to install any ISO file as a CD/DVD, as instructed. Instead use: "Update Parallels Tools" from the Virtual Machine menu.
 
MichaelLAX said:
Parallels 8: These instructions will work for Parallels 8. In STEP THREE #1: Parallels Tools is built into the main program in Parallels 8, so there is no need to install any ISO file as a CD/DVD, as instructed. Instead use: "Update Parallels Tools" from the Virtual Machine menu.
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I see the option to update tools, but clicking on it does nothing. (it's greyed out)
 
Darth-Carbonite said:
I see the option to update tools, but clicking on it does nothing. (it's greyed out)
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That suggests to me that you have already installed Parallels Tools and it is up to date!

I do not know how to double check this installation, other than, perhaps, to see if copy & paste works across both environments, which is one of the new version 8 Parallels Tools features.

I note on my copy, it now reads "Reinstall Parallels Tools" and it is NOT greyed out, so you do probably have a problem.

As this is now really a Parallels tech support question, you should post it on their forum and come back and let us know the answer!
 
Parallels Tech Support Forum

A new post regarding Parallels Tools and perhaps the mouse disappearing problem:

Hi everyone,

Something still might be wrong with Parallels Tools, please try to do a "clean" re-install as suggested at http://kb.parallels.com/8969
If you have an antivirus running on Windows side, disable it before the re-install.
Another thing to try is to go to VM Configuration: http://kb.parallels.com/115563 > Options > Advanced and turn the Smart Mouse option on (VM should be sh
Thanks,
Andrew
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A followup post on Parallels about the disappearing mouse issue:

I just wanted to update everyone that I went through the steps in http://kb.parallels.com/8969 and also turned the 'Smart Mouse' option from 'Auto' to 'On' and this resolved the issues I was having related to this in all display modes. I did the full uninstall and removed the registry keys that were hanging out behind as mentioned in the article. Thanks.
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MichaelLAX said:
I am consistently surprised by the amount of people, who to this day, are still only now upgrading to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard. No one is late to this party...
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So true, so true (she says while hanging her head, sheeplishly).

You are a god among men, MichaelLAX---thanks for the hard work put into helping everyone through this with as little pain as possible. Was able to get SLS into Parallels successfully, so now the trick is getting the Adobe software in there too....

You rock! :D
 
MichaelLAX said:
Which Adobe products?

You can download Creative Suite 2 (CS2) here from inside SLS.
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CS4: Illustrator, Photoshop, and InDesign
CS2: GoLive

I own the disks, so no worries there. GoLive is installed now; am just waiting to move forward with the three CS4 apps until figuring out how to deal with Dropbox between the two environments (any hints there would be appreciated, since there are about a dozen folders with HUGE files I need to sync between the two environments....install DB on both, then Selective Sync on SL?...duplicates a ton of space on the Air's drive).

As a heads up to anyone trying to install GoLive from the CS2 package: It's unsupported by Adobe, which means you need to call them for a specific, super secret, weird, one-time-only authorization code. They made those of us who already owned the program re-install a "special" replacement version, then use the replacement auth code to make it run.

If there's a way to complicate things, well...Adobe usually is first to roll it out. :::sigh:::
 
I thought only CS and CS2 required Rosetta and the rest are Intel compatible.

Maybe CS4 has other problems with your Mt. Lion?
 
MichaelLAX said:
I thought only CS and CS2 required Rosetta and the rest are Intel compatible.
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You're correct. I rely heavily on Illustrator, Photoshop, and InDesign when building and tweaking sites in GoLive, however. In my mind, seems I need those loaded into SL on Parallels (or have to continually flip back and forth).

Now that I think about that, though...could run Parallels (SL) on one screen in Mission Control, then ML in another. Would mean simply swiping back and forth to change environments (without doubling up on disk space required by two installations of the Adobe programs).

But...that relies on figuring out how to deal with Dropbox, which I'm still not clear on.
 
The latest version of Parallels 8 supports Coherence, which will allow ML and SLS to work side by side, including cut & paste.

I do not know how to avoid duplicate Adobe software installations if you need them in SLS.

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MichaelLAX said:
The latest version of Parallels 8 supports Coherence, which will allow ML and SLS to work side by side, including cut & paste.

I do not know how to avoid duplicate Adobe software installations if you need them in SLS.
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Will work when I'm on the Mini (larger monitor), but...my MBA screen's a bit small for side-by-side Coherence. ;)

My recent thought about using two screens in Mission Control probably has snags...will all hinge on how/if I can get Dropbox working in way that makes sense (any insight would be appreciated). Really need to keep the graphic files in sync between the two environments since many are multi-use.
 
Hitch in my SSL ethernet

It's been a while, but I've managed to get ML to support Parellels which supports SLS which support SheepShaver. All three going at once on my dual monitors.

However, look out, here it comes; I had my SLS connected to the internet via ethernet once upon a time and it worked, but now my SLS preference tells me I'm not connected to the ethernet. Of course I am connected, but some where there is a block since SLS is unable to find the connection. Any tips for me?? I'm using the internet on Mt. Lion right now.

BTW, this problem does not involve SheepShaver.
 
PaperQueen said:
My recent thought about using two screens in Mission Control probably has snags...will all hinge on how/if I can get Dropbox working in way that makes sense (any insight would be appreciated). Really need to keep the graphic files in sync between the two environments since many are multi-use.
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Why are you using Dropbox? You can just enable file sharing on the host computer (Mtn Lion) and mount it from within Snow Leopard. That way, you have exactly the same files without having to have separate copies on both systems as Dropbox would do. You can even set it up to automount by putting it in Login Items for your account or numerous other means.

Or have I misunderstood what you are trying to do?
 
Patth9 said:
It's been a while, but I've managed to get ML to support Parellels which supports SLS which support SheepShaver. All three going at once on my dual monitors.

However, look out, here it comes; I had my SLS connected to the internet via ethernet once upon a time and it worked, but now my SLS preference tells me I'm not connected to the ethernet. Of course I am connected, but some where there is a block since SLS is unable to find the connection. Any tips for me?? I'm using the internet on Mt. Lion right now.

BTW, this problem does not involve SheepShaver.
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I have been able to get Sheepshaver to work in Lion; it sometimes has to be launched more than once. Be sure you have their latest version; check their website for more information.

As to purely parallels questions, post a question over on their support forum (and/or support ticket) and let us know if they come up with an answer!

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davidmorr said:
Why are you using Dropbox? You can just enable file sharing on the host computer (Mtn Lion) and mount it from within Snow Leopard. That way, you have exactly the same files without having to have separate copies on both systems as Dropbox would do. You can even set it up to automount by putting it in Login Items for your account or numerous other means.

Or have I misunderstood what you are trying to do?
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David:

That is a good question. Can you ask it again over on this new thread she set up to deal specifically with this problem; thanks!
 
Patth9 said:
It's been a while, but I've managed to get ML to support Parellels which supports SLS which support SheepShaver. All three going at once on my dual monitors.

However, look out, here it comes; I had my SLS connected to the internet via ethernet once upon a time and it worked, but now my SLS preference tells me I'm not connected to the ethernet. Of course I am connected, but some where there is a block since SLS is unable to find the connection. Any tips for me?? I'm using the internet on Mt. Lion right now.

BTW, this problem does not involve SheepShaver.
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Not to worry, I figured it out. I'm almost back to normal, ie, before Mac Intel.
 
Snow Leopard Server now available in Germany

I just purchased Snow Leopard Server from the Apple Store in Germany. It costs EUR 23.95, including shipping (by regular mail). One has to place the order by telephone (0800 2000 136 within Germany). I could not find it online in the Apple Store; I learned about it here, in a post dated 15 April 2013:

http://www.giga.de/deals/snow-leopard-server-fur-24-euro-bei-apple-bestellen/

I believe they only deliver to addresses in Germany. So residents of other countries should phone their local Apple Store to see if they have the same type of offer.

Snow Leopard itself is available online, at least in the German Apple Store.

Many thanks for all the tips posted on this thread, I look forward to trying them when my disk arrives in the mail next week.
 
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