The MiG 25 could hit mach 3.2 while burning out its engines. The Lockheed SR-71 could fly mach three around the planet at constant speed, quietly. Which do you prefer?
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Intel 12900HK is faster than M1 Max for both single and multi cores.
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No thanks Intel. I am done with you. I have to put up with **** like this on a regular basis from their considerably weaker 10875H turd in a Dell 7550.
All I was doing is compiling some **** that my old MBA M1 didn’t even get warm doing and didn’t ****ing hibernate and only took 75% of the time the Intel did.
Not much point in being faster if you have stick the thing in a fridge like universal soldier every five minutes or have to reboot it once every half an hour to cool down. The AVERAGE speed is 1/4 of the M1 and the M1 doesn’t make my blood boil.
This has been the last 15 years of “workstation laptops” from Intel including the old Intel MacBooks. The 11 series is just as bad. The 12 will be too.
Go to hell.
All I was doing is compiling some **** that my old MBA M1 didn’t even get warm doing and didn’t ****ing hibernate and only took 75% of the time the Intel did.
Not much point in being faster if you have stick the thing in a fridge like universal soldier every five minutes or have to reboot it once every half an hour to cool down. The AVERAGE speed is 1/4 of the M1 and the M1 doesn’t make my blood boil.
This has been the last 15 years of “workstation laptops” from Intel including the old Intel MacBooks. The 11 series is just as bad. The 12 will be too.
Go to hell.
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Oh good. I was worried that there was a gap in my memory somewhere between the 6502 and the Intel Core processors.
on a desktop sure. On a laptop, it means a lot. thermal throttling (just google DellXPS and throttling, lots of compalinats), battery life, fan noise.
"2. I think you're used to over-thin Macs and their abysmal thermal profile. Yeah, I know exactly how it feels to have a computer that constantly throttles. Thankfully most high-end PC laptops can sustain their turbo, as I've now experienced." not if you google Dell XPS, lots of complaints on throttling, as I would suspect in all of the thin profile Windows PCs as well
I'm a little confused at your comment. I just did a compare of the Apple silicon laptops to the comparable Dells. The Dells are heavier, either cost more or underperform, and if you do a google search, throttle heavily.
This can’t be stressed enough… just like in the yesteryears all the difference between being able to run something smoothly and efficiently relied on having a GPU (remember the 3dfx Voodoo and S3 days?) or else it would default to painfully slow 3d software rasterizers/renderers, today we have ML Cores, Media Engine cores, even the T2 chip that takes care of sound input/file-system/encryption-decryption. All tied together with ultra fast on site system memory that doesn’t discriminate anymore for which hardware piece it is to be aimed at makes a ’low end’ system like the M1 Air feel the snappiest laptop I have ever used, feels snappier than my own beefed up 2020 iMac. Yes, it’s slower overall at rendering something, but everyday use? Definitely more responsive.
I’ll still wait for more benchmarks, real life benchmarks, as the GB5 ~70K scores when looking at the detail level it is in a lot of them over 50% of the FPS vs top of the line graphics cards. Or at least it seems like.
"Apple has forcefully taken away 32-bit support". that has been obsolete for years. Do you really want unmaintained old crappy software with probably security vulnerabilities anywhere near your computer? The really stupid part is, that the developers simply have to recompile, and effort of about 5 minutes? so really? 32 bit is OK?
"forcefully taken away native Windows support". Not true at all, you can run windows ARM on Macs, but MS won't license it. Talk to MS stop anticompetitive behavior. coalition of Windows on ARM fairness!
"forcefully taken away native Linux support". People have already ported Linus over to apple silicon
Apple will, Apple will. No comment necessary as they haven't.
Repair? I am still using my heavily used 2014 MBP with no issues in the SSD or RAM, keyboard or display. I did have the battery replaced last year.. the repair issue is overblown. sure anyone can tell that the fixit guy ought to be adequately trained and use the proper parts. And alot of a secure computer is locked down for a reason. Remember when you could just pop out the hard drive in a windows computer to get around security? OK that was awhile ago, but the more you can get physical access to, the more you can get inside of as well.
Yes a very sore one.I sense a sore spot?
My job is to keep the plates spinning at a large fintech. If something goes wrong I need to be able to trust it to not skip a beat. And nothing Intel or Windows gets even half way there. The Dell is positively a liability in this respect as the poor thermal design issues multiplied by the general windows feckery is literally like trying to drive a car with shafted tracking five minutes after someone has cut your fingers off. I spend more time working around issues than doing productive work.
This Dell configuration cost £3450. A better MacBook Pro is cheaper. Hell I’d settle for an MBA at the moment. I’m mostly working off an ass end Mac mini and the dell doesn’t even get used now.
Edit: even the abysmal dell dock works better with a mac than it does with windows.
No it’s not. My Lenovo P53 does it as well. In fact that just throttles down so much that windows UI lags out.
The HP elite book before did it.
I had desktops before that which were marginally better. But they won’t ship me one now as I’m “on call” despite working from home and they installed about 200 hot desks in the office (which I never go to). Muppets
Nice try, but wrong chip you referenced:It apparently is the mobile one but that still goes up to 65 Watt. Also memory-bus is about 8 times slower some other tests will be interesting to see and still waiting to see the M1 Max high performance mode.
Intel® Core™ i9-10980HK Processor (16M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) Product Specifications
Intel® Core™ i9-10980HK Processor (16M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.ark.intel.com
Intel® Core™ i9-10980HK Processor
which has a Geekbench of around 8900.
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Intel 12900HK
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The new 16“ MacBook Pro is thinner than the Dell XPS 15“… I am puzzled how you continuously stress the fact that the MBP is now „big“ while in fact it’s still one of the thinnest laptops out there. It’s only 1.3mm thicker than the 2016 touchbar MBP and just half mm thicker than the Intel 16“ model.
They aren’t likely to abandon their multi-billion dollar investment started 14 years ago and switch back to x86. Certainly a fab partnership with Intel isn’t out of the question.
I have always been an Intel fan for the most part but I doubt the z690 will out perform the M1. I will wait see the prices before jumping on. I am on this forum because I waiting for my first apple product ever the iPhone 13 Pro Max. I think apple finally came around with the 12 and the 13 looks awesome and the Android OS is slacking these days. I originally went with intel way back in the early 80s because of Apples closed architecture, not because I thought Intel was better.
Microsoft did bail Apple out of the hole twice because they did not want to have a monopoly. The Mac has been a great computer for many years and their choice of donating their computers to schools was genius. Still an Intel fan though and probably always will be.
I'm not trolling here or trying to create an argument, just stating how I feel. I like a lot of the European sports cars better than my Ford but the cost is not justifiable to me.
Microsoft did bail Apple out of the hole twice because they did not want to have a monopoly. The Mac has been a great computer for many years and their choice of donating their computers to schools was genius. Still an Intel fan though and probably always will be.
I'm not trolling here or trying to create an argument, just stating how I feel. I like a lot of the European sports cars better than my Ford but the cost is not justifiable to me.
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"Thickness" can't be measured by a single number (at least not when the shape is not a straight boxĺ. MBP is 300g heavier.
Of course it can, these laptops do not have a tapered design. Their thickness is uniform. The new model simply appears more massive because it doesn’t have the tapered borders of its predecessor. The increase of 140g over its predecessor is probably due to bigger heatsinks.
