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Intelligence Program Gives US Government Direct Access to Customer Data on Apple Servers [Update: Apple Denies]

thadoggfather said:
Can even the most (blind) and denying loyal Obama followers admit: Obama dun goofed.

Between this and Verizon, AP tapping, Benghazi coverups (don't bother overexaggerating it, it was a 9/11 off shore, even on 9/11, but anyways...) that has whistleblowers jobs threatened from coming forward, awesome sauce, NDAA to allow indefinite detention of prisoners WITHOUT due process signed on New Year's Eve when Obama promised to veto it, the politically discrimating IRS, whose head visited WH 157 times (of course Obama knew about it, you thought he learned about it when mainstream media reported it? He is president, come on, he was/is in on it), electing Rice as a national security adviser, THIS IS INSANE.

something needs to be done immediately. I don't think the American people can be afford to be passive anymore.

He is not a democrat. he is something straight out of 1984.
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The cure to 1984 is 1776.
 
mozumder said:
The cure to everything is to not be poor.
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Not sure about that but if you are rich, you get shorter lines at a lot of airports for security. You also get a nice lounge with free beer, snacks and internet to relax in. Finally, you get real metal utensils including a steak knife if you chose the steak as your inflight meal.

As for the topic at hand, I will say that the NSA is likely using a combination of voice recognition and software that performs Named entity recognition or NER for short to extract names and other metadata from the streams of data they are processing and then using coherence signal processing to determine relationships between data streams and groupings of data in those streams.

It is a fascinating field of work to be involved in.
 
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The impetus for "the cloud" comes from the intelligence agencies. Think about it. They already have all our voice, data, and internet history. What was missing was access to all the data on personal storage devices. With the "cloud" they simply tell the cloud server operators to "hand it over or else...".

Whatever benign advantages are gleaned from "the cloud" is just "bait".

I suspect that computer/device makers are being pressured to steer us into using the cloud to store ALL our data. As such I/O ports and local storage solutions will be phased out. Hope I'm wrong but until proven otherwise, there IS a conspiracy to monitor EVERYTHING!!!
 
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Who cares? Given all things in this are equal, Apple wins because of superior user experience. I mean sure, your data is being spied on by the government. But damn, those icons sure are 3D and glossy!
 
When Bush did it, Democrats screamed bloody murder and Republicans were silent, defensive, and accused opponents of lacking patriotism. Now Obama's doing it, and Republicans are screaming bloody murder, while Democrats are silent about the very same thing they screamed over.

Why do we have different standards for government when "our guy" is the one in office? It's ridiculous. "My guy" is as bad as "your guy". They both suck.
 
As if its ok to take personal information of non US people. I'm Australian and find that kind of statement to be typical arrogant American. No offense but that's how it sounds to a non US person.
 
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okay Im english at what point do you americans break out the guns and let uncle sam have it between the eyes?

Iz knowz you likes to shoot dem gunz:D
 
Why is everyone so private? Stand by what you do, who you are and how you live.
 
Interesting.

I wonder whether national legsilations will me modified for people acting involuntarily as informants to foreign intelligence agencies?

So you understand, most western legislations have some law or stature outlawing "giving information to or aiding foreign intelligence agencies".

Imnsho, if the us wants to have the moral right to claim the role of a central node in the world of e-commerce, programs like these will have to stop.

RGDS,
 
YAWN

the intelligence services have multi million dollar budgets for computer and network related monitoring....

Most of the free 'proxy' services and some 'vpn' services are run by the US Gov.

wake up
 
JoEw said:
Why is everyone so private? Stand by what you do, who you are and how you live.
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You know those rewards cards that you swipe at the drug stores and grocery stores? Every time you swipe the card the government knows you were there.
 
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knewsom said:
When Bush did it, Democrats screamed bloody murder and Republicans were silent, defensive, and accused opponents of lacking patriotism. Now Obama's doing it, and Republicans are screaming bloody murder, while Democrats are silent about the very same thing they screamed over.

Why do we have different standards for government when "our guy" is the one in office? It's ridiculous. "My guy" is as bad as "your guy". They both suck.
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Politicians.

They are liars, cheaters and greedy elitists. No politician is your friend and you would be unbelievably foolish to believe a word any of them say.

The US doesn't have it too bad. Our parliament seriously act like children, bickering all day, every day about each others parties.

They are so out of touch with the common citizen that its not even funny.
 
SeattleMoose said:
...They already have all our voice, data, and internet history. What was missing was access to all the data on personal storage devices. With the "cloud" they simply tell the cloud server operators to "hand it over or else...".
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I have been saying this for years. All my 'Cloud' service options are switched off apart from email, which is required anyway and already has the ability to be monitored with ease.
 
Not too worried about the security services having access to this data. I wish them the best of luck with it.

But passing this data to other parties, even and in particular the outsourcing of the data analysis, has to be a no-no. Despite any assurances given and contract clauses, that data is for sale to the highest bidder.
 
JoEw said:
Why is everyone so private? Stand by what you do, who you are and how you live.
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Not the "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear mantra"..? Please... :rolleyes:

Just because you have nothing to hide within your private affairs, does not mean that anybody should have access to it without your knowledge or consent.
 
cgk.emu said:
I work for them. Don't trust them. Jesus man, if only I could tell you fools the half of it. I think any prior military intel folks would say the same.
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If you really did work for a shady government department, I doubt you would post these comments.. We have all probably flagged ourselves as 'subversives' to the people who want to know these things anyway..;)

Then again..., cgk.emu? are you still there.....? Let me know you are ok...?! :eek::D
 
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has issued a press release noting that the Washington Post and Guardian reports contain "numerous inaccuracies" and indicating that any data collection is limited to non-U.S. citizens located outside of the United States.
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The American Law says spying is forbidden and could be seen as treason depending on which side you are. Then what the .... is this **** and how should the rest of the world feel about that?

Last week we had Tim Cook say "we're an American company"
Should he add that with "and we help the US Government with spying on everybody outside of America" ?
 
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