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Jayderek

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Jun 28, 2010
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C'mon...this beta's been out a week, it is a BETA (and you were warned that things might not work correctly) and this is, at best, a very edge use case. How can you possibly make a statement like that?

people, even now, still have ZERO understand what Beta software is for. Too many people think it's just something along the lines of 'yay! I get new features early' and don't realize that we're volunteering to TEST this and report things back. Things being broken is part of the deal...and some things may take a while to fix.

Frustrating this ignorance continues with so many.
 

rstark18

macrumors 65816
Sep 18, 2009
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My AT&T WiFi Calling is pretty much always turned; any time I am under 3 bars its enabled. It typically won't shut off until I am at 4 or 5 bars, and it maintains that single strength for a few minutes. If my WiFi is turned off and I have low service, my battery is gone as I described above. If WiFi calling is enabled and connected, my battery will last all day.

This is almost my exact experience as well. I have at&t and at my house I get 1-2 bars (2 at the moment). WiFi Calling is always on. I started using this feature when AT&T allowed it and it has made a huge difference.
Before using it my battery wouldn't drain super fast unless I didn't have wifi. When power goes out (rare in SoCal but it happened last week) the battery drained MUCH faster than normal. I assume this is because it's using the cell radio to do all the background interactions with Internet services and those interactions take much longer at 1 bar.
 
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rstark18

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Sep 18, 2009
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No go.... seems that airplane mode even with wifi and wifi calling enabled doesn't let me make regular phone calls....

WiFi Calling mist be used in conjunction with cellular. It turns on and off automatically depending on your cell signal strength.
 

Sammydad1

macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2017
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This is almost my exact experience as well. I have at&t and at my house I get 1-2 bars (2 at the moment). WiFi Calling is always on. I started using this feature when AT&T allowed it and it has made a huge difference.
Before using it my battery wouldn't drain super fast unless I didn't have wifi. When power goes out (rare in SoCal but it happened last week) the battery drained MUCH faster than normal. I assume this is because it's using the cell radio to do all the background interactions with Internet services and those interactions take much longer at 1 bar.
Based on your thoughts, I am switching to my 2.4GH
WiFi Calling mist be used in conjunction with cellular. It turns on and off automatically depending on your cell signal strength.
should be a way to disable Cell and use wifi calling only....like skype, but thru ATT
 

ab65

macrumors newbie
Jan 30, 2017
4
1
C'mon...this beta's been out a week, it is a BETA (and you were warned that things might not work correctly) and this is, at best, a very edge use case. How can you possibly make a statement like that?
this isn't a simply a little bug, they obvious remove this option from core audio deep in system. And yes I make such statements, the time I was a Apple fanboy lays 15 years back. I want the best and suspect the best.Such elementary has to work, beta or not. sorry man nothing personal.
 

gwhizkids

macrumors G5
Jun 21, 2013
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this isn't a simply a little bug, they obvious remove this option from core audio deep in system. And yes I make such statements, the time I was a Apple fanboy lays 15 years back. I want the best and suspect the best.Such elementary has to work, beta or not. sorry man nothing personal.
If you need it to work, then don't use the beta. Period. You have absolutely no right to expect beta software to do what you want it to. That's not how this works. Read the not so fine print.
 

icemanbrfc

macrumors regular
Jan 24, 2017
105
40
Was on 100% at 5pm South African time, it's now 6:20 and on 85%

For me the battery is really good

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rstark18

macrumors 65816
Sep 18, 2009
1,135
395
I haven't had any battery issues lately but this morning as I was checking forums emails etc. Which is usually a 5% battery loss was an 80% loss and phone was warm. I checked battery usage and it said messages was on screen for 59 min even though I had o NJ ly used it for a MN minute or two. I'm thinking it got stuck and a force quit and a hard reset will straighten everything out.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
This is almost my exact experience as well. I have at&t and at my house I get 1-2 bars (2 at the moment). WiFi Calling is always on. I started using this feature when AT&T allowed it and it has made a huge difference.
Before using it my battery wouldn't drain super fast unless I didn't have wifi. When power goes out (rare in SoCal but it happened last week) the battery drained MUCH faster than normal. I assume this is because it's using the cell radio to do all the background interactions with Internet services and those interactions take much longer at 1 bar.

Glad I am not the only one. So that is at least three of us here that have noticed the same exact thing when it comes to battery drain and not being on WiFi.
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Based on your thoughts, I am switching to my 2.4GH

should be a way to disable Cell and use wifi calling only....like skype, but thru ATT

If you go on Airplane mode and turn on WiFi, it will eventually connect to WiFi calling. It just takes a few minutes. You will then receive your phone calls and SMS as normal. Not entirely what you are asking for, but a work-around.
 

Sammydad1

macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2017
128
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Glad I am not the only one. So that is at least three of us here that have noticed the same exact thing when it comes to battery drain and not being on WiFi.
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If you go on Airplane mode and turn on WiFi, it will eventually connect to WiFi calling. It just takes a few minutes. You will then receive your phone calls and SMS as normal. Not entirely what you are asking for, but a work-around.
Going to try this again, but allow more time as you suggest.
 

rstark18

macrumors 65816
Sep 18, 2009
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395
If you go on Airplane mode and turn on WiFi, it will eventually connect to WiFi calling. It just takes a few minutes. You will then receive your phone calls and SMS as normal. Not entirely what you are asking for, but a work-around.

This absolutely works. I thought cellular had to be on.
 

GBstoic

macrumors 6502a
Nov 6, 2016
519
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this isn't a simply a little bug, they obvious remove this option from core audio deep in system. And yes I make such statements, the time I was a Apple fanboy lays 15 years back. I want the best and suspect the best.Such elementary has to work, beta or not. sorry man nothing personal.

They obviously haven't removed this option from core audio deep in the system since it still works on my iPhone 5 running beta 1.
 
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Septembersrain

Cancelled
Dec 14, 2013
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5,451
I've noticed certain apps start to slow down after a while. Force closing them doesn't help either. Only a hard reset does.
 

tivoboy

macrumors 601
May 15, 2005
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853
WiFi Calling mist be used in conjunction with cellular. It turns on and off automatically depending on your cell signal strength.
yeah, I use wifi calling with the phone in airplane mode, no cellular connection available. Granted, there is a cellular PLAN, which is certainly required.
 

Sammydad1

macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2017
128
27
yeah, I use wifi calling with the phone in airplane mode, no cellular connection available. Granted, there is a cellular PLAN, which is certainly required.

My MagicJack calling works fine using wifi.... wonder if MagicJack App somehow interferes with wifi calling in airplane mode...??
 

Sid777

macrumors regular
May 16, 2016
151
83
My iCloud Storage is almost full and in iOS 10.3 beta 1 the settings app just keeps on bugging me with a lockscreen notification and an app badge for low iCloud storage. Hope this changes in future beta releases.
 

rijc99

macrumors 6502a
Apr 27, 2015
854
645
My AT&T WiFi Calling is pretty much always turned; any time I am under 3 bars its enabled. It typically won't shut off until I am at 4 or 5 bars, and it maintains that single strength for a few minutes. If my WiFi is turned off and I have low service, my battery is gone as I described above. If WiFi calling is enabled and connected, my battery will last all day.

How much of the battery savings is attributed to wifi calling and how much is to the simple fact your phone is using data through wifi versus data through cellular?

Have you tried wifi on but wifi calling off?
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
How much of the battery savings is attributed to wifi calling and how much is to the simple fact your phone is using data through wifi versus data through cellular?

Have you tried wifi on but wifi calling off?

I have not, but if I did that, then I would assume my battery would die just as fast as WiFi off because its still searching for a stronger network signal.
 

alecc131

macrumors 6502
Nov 13, 2013
299
69
Altough I use the app daily. I don't have such issue. Its usually around %1-2 for me on 10.3

Still having the issue with HealthKit. Taking up 100% CPU looking in Xcode.

I believe it has to do with Apple Watch achievements.
 

AppleFan91

macrumors 68000
Sep 11, 2012
1,813
3,827
Indy, US
Anyone having issues with the App Store? I can't download anything over LTE or wifi and I've tried 2 different wifi connections as well. Power cycled the phone, all that good stuff. Nothing on Twitter in terms of people complaining about the App Store being down so wondering if it's a Beta issue.
 

DaPizzaMan

macrumors 6502a
Jun 14, 2016
550
1,186
Anyone having issues with the App Store? I can't download anything over LTE or wifi and I've tried 2 different wifi connections as well. Power cycled the phone, all that good stuff. Nothing on Twitter in terms of people complaining about the App Store being down so wondering if it's a Beta issue.
I was having trouble updating apps today. It would start and then tell me that the update failed, with an option to retry the update. After choosing to retry, it would work that time (on the second try).

Not sure if related to your issue...

It seems to me that there are a lot of App Store download issues as of late. Is this all just Apple's servers being complete **** or iOS 10-related?
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
I've been having problems with downloading apps on multiple devices. None on 10.3.
 
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