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Who made you some sort of design expert or some UI expert? Your opinion of not liking it doesn't make it fact. You seem to think that just because YOU don't like it, that makes it true it's the poorest design ever. Are you the leading UI/design expert in the world?
What's even funnier is you've stated you like how OS X looks but then say Ive can't design software. He designed both iOS (7-9) and OS X (since Yosemite)
Well the current design of OS X has retained most of its character and wasn't nearly as radical of a redesign as iOS 7 was. OS X, unlike iOS, still has actual buttons, depth, shadows, less white and relatively detailed icons. From what I've heard, the redesign was not entirely Jony's doing, which would explain why it still looks like OS X. That being said, iOS would look a more refined and polished if it took some design cues from the newer versions of OS X.
I want a dark mode. It seems that iOS 7 and onwards was made to match the white iPhone. I remember when iPhone 5S was announced along with iOS 7 they marketed the white more than the black one.
Everything you keep repeating over and over in this thread and other threads is just your opinion. Your opinion doesn't = fact.
I'm still waiting to see the credentials that certify you as the worlds leading UI and design expert that would make your opinions fact.
iOS7 hater calls iOS7+ "stale and dated" (ironically what we called iOS6) and wants another redesign.
In other news, water is wet.
In other news, water is wet.
I'm expecting a design transition similar to the one from iOS 3 to iOS 4 (icons got polished, for example), but not a major one, even though I would like one.
How about, rather than changing the ui because "things feel stale," they actually implement something worthwhile or work more on optimisation and bug fixes?
Jony Ive:
1. Works for the most powerful company in the world.
2. Was knighted by the Queen of England for his contributions.
3. Has designed the most iconic/legendary Apple products
4. Will be remembered long after he's gone.
What have you done lately or better yet, what qualifies you to criticize him?
It will change but I doubt it will change a lot. In all honesty I really like the current design, where as I felt iOS 6 was dated. I'd like maybe a bit more refined version - I think OSX has better flat design than iOS, but only malignly.
Funny thing iOS comes in threes, where the version after has a redesign. iPhone OS 1,2 and 3, iOS 4,5,6 then iOS 7,8,9?
Funny thing iOS comes in threes, where the version after has a redesign. iPhone OS 1,2 and 3, iOS 4,5,6 then iOS 7,8,9?
You should take a look at the latest Assassins Creed and Call of Duty series
No major redesign with iOS 10. We will see some tweaks here and there, some polished icons, UI little bit updatet but no more. Major resign will be with iOS 13/14.
iOS 10 doesn't need to be totally overhauled in terms of UI.
However... in terms of UI I would like:
- Dark mode, or at least a dark keyboard option. SDK for developers to integrate into their own apps. Would be functionality that could be used alongside or separately to Night Shift, either manually or on a schedule.
- Dynamic/subtle motion on icons like new Apple TV. More live icons like Calendar, for example Weather showing current temperature.
- New wallpapers, including new live and dynamic wallpapers
- Refreshed animations, taking cues from Apple Watch. For example, scrolling through Message histories, the bubbles would animate in more fluidly.
- Generally refreshed icons throughout entire system, moving away from bright garish colours to more pastel tones (slightly). A bit like what the "Darken Colours" option in Accessibility does to text through the system.
- Red dot at top of screen to signify unread notifications like Apple Watch - could be used instead of or alongside icon badges. Also tie notifications closer to badges - clearing notification center should clear all badges too.
- Move Today/widget view to live with Spotlight (swipe far-most right on home screen for Spotlight and Today widgets)
- Improve Notification Center to be more visual and useful. Clear all notifications dynamically if cleared on other devices.
- Less white through system - using transparency more in parts like in OS X.
In terms of functionality:
- Many stock apps (Music, Safari, etc) receive updates through App Store independent of OS updates
- Dynamic content in iMessages e.g. Links show previews of content, videos show thumbnails, etc. Large emojis when sent as individual messages (like Facebook Messenger).
- Improvements to iPad multitasking - 2 instances of same app side by side e.g. Safari
- New sounds (ring, text etc)
- Auto low power mode at 20%
- Voicemail for FaceTime
- Ability to type queries to Siri (alternative to using voice)
- Weather and Calculator apps for iPad
- Per-app rotation lock
- More control over Do Not Disturb scheduling
- Per-contact read receipts
- Fix AirDrop (temperamental at best at the moment)
- Ability to snooze Messages and Mails to reply to them later
- New photo filters in Camera app
- Ability to filter Live Photos
- Touch ID on Hidden Photos album and per-app in settings
Bug fixes, speed improvements and a slimmer profile a la Snow Leopard.
I hope iOS 10 is a substantial update both under the hood and in terms of user-facing changes. In addition to security and bug fixes which should be a given, it is definitely time for the UI to be really heavily polished, for the amount of bright white to be reduced, and for a Dark Mode.
I hope Apple really goes to town with this landmark update and gives us not only a refreshed UI, but improved stock app functionality. Mail for example could be better (apps like AirMail and to an extent Outlook are doing this better than Apple at the moment for example). Apple Music needs to be overhauled too, learning from the launch lessons.
High hopes.
However... in terms of UI I would like:
- Dark mode, or at least a dark keyboard option. SDK for developers to integrate into their own apps. Would be functionality that could be used alongside or separately to Night Shift, either manually or on a schedule.
- Dynamic/subtle motion on icons like new Apple TV. More live icons like Calendar, for example Weather showing current temperature.
- New wallpapers, including new live and dynamic wallpapers
- Refreshed animations, taking cues from Apple Watch. For example, scrolling through Message histories, the bubbles would animate in more fluidly.
- Generally refreshed icons throughout entire system, moving away from bright garish colours to more pastel tones (slightly). A bit like what the "Darken Colours" option in Accessibility does to text through the system.
- Red dot at top of screen to signify unread notifications like Apple Watch - could be used instead of or alongside icon badges. Also tie notifications closer to badges - clearing notification center should clear all badges too.
- Move Today/widget view to live with Spotlight (swipe far-most right on home screen for Spotlight and Today widgets)
- Improve Notification Center to be more visual and useful. Clear all notifications dynamically if cleared on other devices.
- Less white through system - using transparency more in parts like in OS X.
In terms of functionality:
- Many stock apps (Music, Safari, etc) receive updates through App Store independent of OS updates
- Dynamic content in iMessages e.g. Links show previews of content, videos show thumbnails, etc. Large emojis when sent as individual messages (like Facebook Messenger).
- Improvements to iPad multitasking - 2 instances of same app side by side e.g. Safari
- New sounds (ring, text etc)
- Auto low power mode at 20%
- Voicemail for FaceTime
- Ability to type queries to Siri (alternative to using voice)
- Weather and Calculator apps for iPad
- Per-app rotation lock
- More control over Do Not Disturb scheduling
- Per-contact read receipts
- Fix AirDrop (temperamental at best at the moment)
- Ability to snooze Messages and Mails to reply to them later
- New photo filters in Camera app
- Ability to filter Live Photos
- Touch ID on Hidden Photos album and per-app in settings
Bug fixes, speed improvements and a slimmer profile a la Snow Leopard.
I hope iOS 10 is a substantial update both under the hood and in terms of user-facing changes. In addition to security and bug fixes which should be a given, it is definitely time for the UI to be really heavily polished, for the amount of bright white to be reduced, and for a Dark Mode.
I hope Apple really goes to town with this landmark update and gives us not only a refreshed UI, but improved stock app functionality. Mail for example could be better (apps like AirMail and to an extent Outlook are doing this better than Apple at the moment for example). Apple Music needs to be overhauled too, learning from the launch lessons.
High hopes.
Even in the case of him being an expert that wouldn't make his opinions facts. Otherwise Jony Ive would be the absolute truth.
But yeah, cut with the iOS 6 nostalgia.
Wrong on point 2, no such person as the Queen of England. She's the Queen of Great Britain (UK).
For once I agree with you. I don't know what the heck Ubisoft is doing these days. I was a huge Splinter Cell fan back on the day.
Google's lead designer Matias Duarte criticised the newer iOS design for the exact same reasons he wrote I think
As if googles' design and work is the pinnacle of perfection?
Or said another way, pot calling kettle black.Just saying because lagwagon was stating his opinion as invalid as if no expert designer has ever criticised the new iOS designAs if googles' design and work is the pinnacle of perfection?
And yes,Google's material design has easier text to read for starters.Download the Play Music Appl app.Then look at Apple's app.The text is much clearer and everything is more defined in the Play Music App
Anything can be picked apart is my point. I don't really want that app on my iphone, but thanks anyway. Not to say there aren't people who aren't expert and who clearly know more than me, but what these people's opinions are in the blog-o-sphere are seemingly irrelevant unless they are on the IOS design team directly affecting the end-result. (Like youtube with that hideous red all over the place..hurts my eyes)
5. Also responsible for designing the whoops-there-it-goes feel of the larger iPhones making them impossible to use without a case
6. Also responsible for the camera bump which makes it impossible for for an iPhone to lay flat on a surface.SJ would have gone crazy about this flaw had he been alive
7. Also responsible for designing those ugly antenna lines on the back of the iPhone which Apple is correcting in the iPhone 7
8. Also responsible (?) for designing that atrocious battery case
9. Also responsible for "Designing" the vibrating chassis of the Air 2.He made it do damn thin the whole chassis vibrates like a motor engine when I play a game or see a movie
Just saying 5 and 6 can be said for the Samsung line as well. 7 is purely a judgement call. I like the look. 8 has nothing to do with anything, however the genius of that battery case lies in it's simplicity.
But why do we always have to compare with the competition, and especially Samsung ? Samsung has never be known for caring about every details like Apple was. I think he is right, Jony Ive has been sleeping these days, he never made so much mistake before.
Though, as I said previously in this thread, I have no issues about iOS design it's simple and really easy to use.
iOS still have the same core as the iOS we love so much since 2007, flat design or not.