iOS 11.2 Beta 4 Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

[iSayBoourns]

I know. I don’t know why I bother. The thing that bugs me is that people come on this forum, don’t necessarily know who Radon or bashman or a few others are and take what they say as legitimate advice and make poorly informed decisions as a result. It is bad

I couldn’t agree more. They’re the Fox News of MR forums. Putting fake fear on unsuspecting users.

 

[Radon87000]

Good grief. Firstly, for the hundredth time, not all “usage” is equivalent. Secondly, those figures are for a new device with a new battery.

How many times should it be said the battery hasnt depreciated enough to last 50% of the iPhone X? Coconut Battery and tons of other applications have stated its perfectly fine at 98% batteyr health. The iPhone X lasts an hour less than the 7 Pllus to begin with

And as far as usage goes, I cant get that usage time no matter what I do. 6 hours 34 minutes of usage with 11 hours standby with 60% remaining is an impossible task here.


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It's an exercise in futility. It just goes in circles and things get pointed out and the ignored as the same points come back over and over even after they've already been addressed. It's like those discussions didn't even happen as it all gets conveniently "forgotten" right when things don't fit the narrative and it all starts all over again.

This has already been explained above. My device in a normal working day cant get past 8 hours of use. thats the limit without Facebook app installed. The iphone X is on 6.5 hours with 60% remaining with Facebook installed. Thats almost double of what I am getting. For that to happen battery wear should be 30% or more if the hardware is flawed. And I already gopt the battery checked at the Apple Store. The battery wear on my 7 Plus is barely 50-60mah lesser than intended which is like 5-10 minutes of usage lost.

 

[Feenician]

Coconut Battery and tons of other applications have stated its perfectly fine at 98% batteyr healt

Your problem is that you are, putting it kindly, an unreliable narrator

At the start of October, in a thread where you are ra-raing Android, despite never just going and getting one

My battery wear level is at 97%

Middle of November, when the Home Button thread is shut down, you have 99%

when all battery wear apps show the battery at 99% health

Now it’s apparently 98%

I basically cannot take anything you say seriously at this point.

 

[Radon87000]

Your problem is that you are, putting it kindly, an unreliable narrator

At the start of October, in a thread where you are ra-raing Android, despite never just going and getting one


Middle of November, when the Home Button thread is shut down, you have 99%


Now it’s apparently 98%

I basically cannot take anything you say seriously at this point.

Firstly The wear rate fluctuates slightly depending on how many % your battery is charged at. Secondly, Different apps rate it slightly differently which is a margin of error. But the lowest I saw so far recently was 97.8%

But unless it’s 10% wear and above. anything below that is virtually unnoticeable.

 

[Feenician]

But the lowest I saw so far was 97.8%

It was? So why do all of these say 97%? Oh, because it suited your narrative of the day

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-8-or-note-8.2063073/page-37#post-25155672

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-8-or-note-8.2063073/page-53#post-25216087

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-interactions.2067278/page-25#post-25219571

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-apple-disaster.2077332/page-4#post-25222235

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-interactions.2067278/page-32#post-25241009

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/battery-issues-since-update.2069726/page-24#post-25245506

Honestly, I just feel bad for people who make decisions on the basis of your posts.

 

[Radon87000]

It was? So why do all of these say 97%? Oh, because it suited your narrative of the day

Honestly, I just feel bad for people who make decisions on the basis of your posts.

They say 97% because when I checked it sometime prior to those posts. It was at 97%. There are fluctuations even when I remove the iPhone from the cable and reconnect it. I simply used 97% because it was a conservative estimate and because people were faulting the hardware for a software inefficiency. Want to see proof

Here

iMazing at 99%

Coconut Battery at 98%

And here is the kicker. iBackupbot states 100.34%

I will be sure to post a screenshot here when it comes to 97%. Wait for some days.

 

[0004986]

Firstly The wear rate fluctuates slightly depending on how many % your battery is charged at. Secondly, Different apps rate it slightly differently which is a margin of error. But the lowest I saw so far recently was 97.8%

But unless it’s 10% wear and above. anything below that is virtually unnoticeable.

Time and time again you whine about the same battery stats and how Apple has conspired against "YOU" to deliberately ruin your iPhone battery and with it, your life. For the sake of the members' sanity, I request you to take all your whining to a different thread and STOP polluting this one.

Other than the occasional visual "glitches", not "bugs", 11.2 beta 4 has been pretty smooth on my 6s. I was afraid to make the jump from 10.3.3 but I don't regret updating one bit.

Edit: Also, the only accurate battery stats you can get is from Apple diags.

 

[Feenician]

They say 97% because when I checked it sometime prior to those posts. It was at 97%. There are fluctuations even when I remove the iPhone from the cable and reconnect it. I simply used 97% because it was a conservative estimate and because people were faulting the hardware for a software inefficiency. Want to see proof

Here

iMazing at 99%

Coconut Battery at 98%

And here is the kicker. iBackupbot states 100.34%

I will be sure to post a screenshot here when it comes to 97%. Wait for some days.

So, none of those tools agree. Coconut even has a different design capacity than the others. (2900 vs 2890) and one is quoting your capacity at over 100%. Seems credible and what you should be basing assessments on. Do I have to put the rolleyes emoji here or not?

 

[Radon87000]

So, none of those tools agree. Coconut even has a different design capacity than the others. (2900 vs 2890) and one is quoting your capacity at over 100%. Seems credible and what you should be basing assessments on. Do I have to put the rolleyes emoji here or not?

Capacity can be over 100% on all apps. My iPad Pro 2017 has over 100% capacity. It’s completely normal for newer devices and if taken care of can be maintained for a year as well.

Those 10mah-50mah worth of differences overall be it design charge or effective charge are irrelevant as they only explain 5-10 minutes with of differences. They do not explain why the iPhone X is lasting almost double of what my 7 Plus is.

 

[Radon87000]

Time and time again you whine about the same battery stats and how Apple has conspired against "YOU" to deliberately ruin your iPhone battery and with it, your life. For the sake of the members' sanity, I request you to take all your whining to a different thread and STOP polluting this one.

Other than the occasional visual "glitches", not "bugs", 11.2 beta 4 has been pretty smooth on my 6s. I was afraid to make the jump from 10.3.3 but I don't regret updating one bit.

Edit: Also, the only accurate battery stats you can get is from Apple diags.

I already got the battery checked at the Apple Store. It’s completely fine.

 

[Radon87000]

I have taken extremely good care of my iPhone’s battery after my iPhone 6 battery degraded so fast. I stopped using the iPad charger and I remove it from its case every time I charge. I don’t let the phone get too hot either.

 

[0004986]

I already got the battery checked at the Apple Store. It’s completely fine.

Anything above 80% comes out as OK at the Genius bar. Unless you specifically asked for a battery diag, which gives out the exact wear on the battery as well.
And please talk about anything but your battery griefs here. Keep the thread productive.

 

[iSayBoourns]

Anything above 80% comes out as OK at the Genius bar. Unless you specifically asked for a battery diag, which gives out the exact wear on the battery as well.
And please talk about anything but your battery griefs here. Keep the thread productive.

It’s what he does. Every iteration of iOS it’s something he hyper focuses on and gets unbelievably relentless about it in every thread possible. Last year it was “micro stutters” in iOS 10. This year it’s been “home button delay”, but since he’s kept his iPad on iOS 10 (which he used to claim as the worst iOS ever and now boasts how good iOS 10 is) and is soon getting a iPhone X. He won’t have to “deal” with the home button and now has moved onto battery.

 

[macintoshmac]

My expectations are not off because my phone lasted one full working day on iOS 10. It doesn't on ios 11.

I wasn't specifically remarking at you. I was remarking in general that the number one reason why people complain is because they expect something way off, as was aptly said and put by @RSmith2023. Second reason is that they don't understand that beta software, beta testing is not about battery life at all. As CDM aptly said, it's been beaten to death.

 

[Radon87000]

I wasn't specifically remarking at you. I was remarking in general that the number one reason why people complain is because they expect something way off, as was aptly said and put by @RSmith2023. Second reason is that they don't understand that beta software, beta testing is not about battery life at all. As CDM aptly said, it's been beaten to death.

Well I will find out when I get the X. If on that I still get the same battery life as the 7 Plus or lesser it just proves to me that iPhone 7 Plus running iOS 10 was a great combination for me. No home button delay, 1.5 days battery life and I actually liked control centre on that and auto brightness setting was located in its rightful place. I use the latter two a lot during the day.

But looking at the screenshots in the battery thread, there seem to be many getting 10 hour battery life on the X even with Facebook installed. If I use the Facebook app my battery life tanks.

 

[robert1998]

Guys it is safe to install this on iPhone X? I heard something not really nice about the phone up being unresponsive, is it real?

 

[C DM]

Guys it is safe to install this on iPhone X? I heard something not really nice about the phone up being unresponsive, is it real?

As discussed in the thread, yes, some people have been running into some issues with the Phone app. Hard to say if you will run into that if you install it, so with this being a beta if you decide to install it it would be with a possibility like that in mind.

 

[robert1998]

Ok, but besides that problem, is anything deal-breaker? Will this beta brick my device or something like that?

 

[C DM]

Ok, but besides that problem, is anything deal-breaker? Will this beta brick my device or something like that?

It can end up screwing things up, like any other install has the potential to, but that doesn't seem to be a known widespread issue or a anything like that. As far as a deal-breaker, that would depend on what that would be for you. For some the potential issues with the Phone app would be that, for others not so much. Seems like you can read through the thread to get a better idea of what people have been seeing to help you make a decision.

 

[sbailey4]

I already got the battery checked at the Apple Store. It’s completely fine.

Which is what everyone here has been trying to tell you also. Nothing wrong with your battery.

Also why would you use the "auto" brightness switch several times a day? Its point is to be AUTO. If you just want to adjust brightness all the time then use CC or the same place its always been. Why flip the auto switch on and off constantly? With that said, I do agree they moved it to an odd place and should have just left it in display settings with the slider BUT its not something that needs turning off and on several times a day. You either want auto adjustment or you don't.

 

[Radon87000]

Which is what everyone here has been trying to tell you also. Nothing wrong with your battery.

Also why would you use the "auto" brightness switch several times a day? Its point is to be AUTO. If you just want to adjust brightness all the time then use CC or the same place its always been. Why flip the auto switch on and off constantly? With that said, I do agree they moved it to an odd place and should have just left it in display settings with the slider BUT its not something that needs turning off and on several times a day. You either want auto adjustment or you don't.

Because if I keep auto brightness enabled, when I move out of a building the brightness ramps up to a level beyond the max level of the brightness slider and destroys the battery. If I disable auto brightness and keep it on max and move out, the brightness is 555nits. If I keep auto brightness on, the max brightness becomes 705 nits. That extra 150 nits will empty the battery fast. 1% for 45 seconds as opposed to 1% for 70 seconds.

When I am indoors its much more useful and saves battery

 

[iSayBoourns]

Well I will find out when I get the X. If on that I still get the same battery life as the 7 Plus or lesser it just proves to me that iPhone 7 Plus running iOS 10 was a great combination for me. No home button delay, 1.5 days battery life and I actually liked control centre on that and auto brightness setting was located in its rightful place. I use the latter two a lot during the day.

But looking at the screenshots in the battery thread, there seem to be many getting 10 hour battery life on the X even with Facebook installed. If I use the Facebook app my battery life tanks.

All you will find out when you get the 10 is that a brand new battery will perform better than a 1+ year old battery. But of course you’ll just deem that Apple’s doing and proof they purposely did that to force you into buying a 10.

Then you’ll start moaning about CC being in the top right corner. Telling us all it’s planned obsolescence to force us into buying next years iPhone already.
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Because if I keep auto brightness enabled, when I move out of a building the brightness ramps up to a level beyond the max level of the brightness slider and destroys the battery. If I disable auto brightness and keep it on max and move out, the brightness is 555nits. If I keep auto brightness on, the max brightness becomes 705 nits. That extra 150 nits will empty the battery fast. 1% for 45 seconds as opposed to 1% for 70 seconds.

When I am indoors its much more useful and saves battery

WTF are you doing to your phones to have 1% per 45 seconds drain. That just does not happen.

 

[Radon87000]

All you will find out when you get the 10 is that a brand new battery will perform better than a 1+ year old battery. But of course you’ll just deem that Apple’s doing and proof they purposely did that to force you into buying a 10.

Then you’ll start moaning about CC being in the top right corner. Telling us all it’s planned obsolescence to force us into buying next years iPhone already.

That's simply not true as the battery wear on the 7 Plus is next to negligible. And I only started facing battery issues once I upgraded to iOS 11. 2 months ago the battery was absolutely outstanding.

Coconut Battery is a very reliable tool and I have used it for years to check the status of my iPhones and my Macs. I don't trust iMazing and iBackupbot as much as Coconut Battery. The wear is only like 45mah and that's like 5 minutes lost. Wear only becomes noticeable once you are at 80-90% as its almost an hour lost and even then it doesn't explain why the X is lasting 6 hours more.

The problem is iOS 11. Period

 

[joesegh]

Has the Significant Locations bug in the Maps widget been fixed? What about CarPlay automatically marking a parked car?

Neither of those have worked on any version of iOS 11 for me, but worked perfectly in iOS 10.

 

[Radon87000]

WTF are you doing to your phones to have 1% per 45 seconds drain. That just does not happen.

Enable auto brightness, move out in bright sunlight and browse Safari or use Google Maps. Battery destroyed. EVen on iOS 10 it was still huge. Hence I always play with the setting deposing on what location I am in