Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

IOS 11 compatible devices

zorinlynx said:
iOS 10 runs pretty well on the iPhone 5/5c and I think this would be a good time to drop those devices from iOS 11, rather than supporting them and reducing performance further.

This would be ideal; I remember the clustercuss that resulted when Apple updated the iPhone 4 to iOS 7 and really brought its performance downhill. This left a lot of iPhone 4 devices with a mediocre user experience.

The 4S was also a bit hobbled with iOS 7 and worse with 8. They pretty much took both the 4 and 4s out back and shot them for us.

It looks like they won't be doing that this time around with the 5 and 5c. I certainly hope so; I want legacy devices to still be usable and fast! My mother has a 5C and if iOS 11 supports it, I will be telling her not to update.
Click to expand...
It wont support . 10.3.2 will be the last update for 5/5C .

4S on IOS 7 was fine, usable phone on IOS 7 or earlier IOS versions, IOS 8 made it slow ,IOS 9 made it slow and unusable.

Iphone 4 on IOS 7 is a terrible experience. However, I think the Iphone 4s with IOS 9 was a lot worse than Iphone 4 with IOS7.

Iphone 5 on IOS 10 is running fine, however, its not 64 bit , so it will be removed.

I think Iphone 5S with IOS 11 will be good. maybe little slow and laggy , but usuable .
[doublepost=1494370862][/doublepost]
Rok73 said:
In which world? My 6 runs just fine on 10. Inhale, exhale.
Click to expand...
Paddle1 said:
I think it may have been the opposite, the A5 was always intended to last for a relatively long period of time but the technology jumped too dramatically for it to keep up once they started building their own CPU with the A6. iOS 7 and up were designed mostly with A6 and up in mind. Maybe Apple stuck to the original plan for the A5 with future devices in mind. The 5s/A7 has the processing power to handle more updates as long as there isn't a huge jump again.

The iPhone 5 already runs circles around the 4s and 4 on iOS 10 in comparison to their last OSes. Pretty impressive considering the 4 only got four versions of iOS.
Click to expand...
I agree, the A7 processor is pretty capable to handle more updates than A6 processor. However, I think maybe this time will be different . A7 can handle IOS 11 .But what about IOS 12?

When IOS 11 drops, Iphone 5S,and Iphone 6 will be the
last two iphones which has 1gb of ram. The 6s,7 has 2gb of ram so it will be fine for few years,7S or 8 I dont know will problably have 3GB of ram .
I dont see a reason to keep these devices(5S and 6) beyond IOS 12. These devices are pretty close in perfomance. A8 is slightly faster than A7. It doesnt make sense to update the 5S and 6 for more than 2 years.
 
Last edited:
While the iPhone 5s and 6 perform similarly, the A8 is much more power efficient, so the iPhone 6 may last a year more. I'm thoroughly split on this though.
 
AmazingTechGeek said:
While the iPhone 5s and 6 perform similarly, the A8 is much more power efficient, so the iPhone 6 may last a year more. I'm thoroughly split on this though.
Click to expand...

It may be much more power efficient, but its only 14-15% faster on both single-core and multi-core benchmarks. So its not that much more powerful of a chip overall.
 
Math889 said:
The 6 will get iOS 12 . Apple never dropped two iPhones at the same time .
[doublepost=1493997165][/doublepost]
Now it 64 bit . That's the reason why iPhone 5 will be dropped from iOS 11. iPhone 5 ,5c are done
Click to expand...

I'd not say that. let the 11 roll out and we'll know. I am saying, 11 will still support 5, 5C and 5S. It is possible though that from 12, they'll kill the support of 5 and 5C.
 
Ben Harley said:
I'd not say that. let the 11 roll out and we'll know. I am saying, 11 will still support 5, 5C and 5S. It is possible though that from 12, they'll kill the support of 5 and 5C.
Click to expand...
I don't see a reason for Apple give a extra year for IPhone 5/5c . And it's not an S model . Now it's 64 bit . 5S and up ! 5/5c are done .
 
I don't think Apple will arbitrarily cut support for A6 devices just because they're not 64-Bit. The jump from iPhone 4s to iPhone 5 was massive, and since the iPhone 5 still performs really well on iOS 10 I think it will get iOS 11 too.
And not only that, I think the 5s will get iOS 12 and perhaps even 13. The iPhone 6 is a bit tricky because it's similar to the 5s, so it will probably get iOS 13 as its last update in my opinion. The iPhone 6s was a huge upgrade too so I think it will have no problems getting iOS 15.

This reminds me plain numbering systems start to look a bit silly after a while.
 
Aleh said:
I don't think Apple will arbitrarily cut support for A6 devices just because they're not 64-Bit. The jump from iPhone 4s to iPhone 5 was massive, and since the iPhone 5 still performs really well on iOS 10 I think it will get iOS 11 too.
And not only that, I think the 5s will get iOS 12 and perhaps even 13. The iPhone 6 is a bit tricky because it's similar to the 5s, so it will probably get iOS 13 as its last update in my opinion. The iPhone 6s was a huge upgrade too so I think it will have no problems getting iOS 15.

This reminds me plain numbering systems start to look a bit silly after a while.
Click to expand...
Iphone 5/5c is the last Iphones that have a 32 bit processor and its still supported . 5S,6,6s,7 have 64 bit processors. Iphone 5/5c performs well on IOS 10 thankfully to the 1GB of RAM . I think now its pretty clear that Apple will choose to support only 64 bit Iphones. This time any iphone /ipad that doesnt have an 64 bit processor will be dropped. The jump from A5 to A6 was massive. However, the jump from A6 to A7 was much more massive.
Iphone 4 was left behind on IOS 7 because it was the only Iphone that has an single core processor,while the 4s uses an dual core processor(both models have the same amount of RAM). So, Apple dropped the Iphone 4 not because of the RAM.

Now , the Iphone 5/5c is the last two Iphones that uses an 32 bit processor and have 1GB of RAM. The Iphone 5S uses an 64 bit processor with 1GB of RAM too.So , now Apple will drop Iphone 5/5c .

And no , the Iphone 5S problably wont be compatible with IOS 13. Just 1GB of RAM . IMO the last IOS version for the Iphone 5S will be IOS 11 or 12.
 
Last edited:
iOS 11 will clearly end support for 32-Bit as A6 and A6X devices only got the common basic upgrades with iOS 10, Apple is clearly working on making iOS 11 64-Bit only, they want 32-Bit app developers to update their apps to 64-Bit and they mentioned that 32-Bit apps won't be compatible with never versions. My expectations:
iPhone 5s
iPhone SE
iPhone 6 series
iPhone 7 series
iPad Air and later
iPad Pro models
iPad 5th generation
iPad mini 2 and later
iPod 6th generation

Dropped support:
iPhone 5
iPhone 5c
iPad 4th generation

I'm sure Apple won't stop making iOS limited on older devices, it's basically to make people think that newer devices are more attractive and exciting.

I think that iOS 11 will include many new features, iPhone 6 will lose at least 1 or 2 main new features, while the 5s might be same. The iPhone 6 doesn't differ that much from iPhone 5s when speaking about performance but it's actually more of a hardware difference for sure.

I expect the iPhone 6s and iPhone 7 to get the same main features as they have no major differences in hardware except for the faster A10 fusion processor.

I am really glad Apple is making sure the discontinued devices are useable which is showing some improvement in how Apple ends the support of older devices.

Discontinuing the A5 devices was completely not fair considering how the last update (iOS 9) rendered them unstable and hard to use. Considering the amount of years the devices got which is either 4 or 5 years depending on the device release date is in my opinion isn't bad at all as 5 years are enough. What is bad is how these devices ended up to perform in an extremely slow manner which is apple's fault as they should've managed to fix their performance before ending support like how they did or going to do very soon with the iPhone 5 and iPad 4.

Lastly, I hope iOS 11 brings new and important features. A refreshed design is needed, iOS 10 worked on some important redesigns and I think iOS 11 should have some refreshed icons and some tweaks to the home screen along with new control and notification centres. I await the dark mode and I think it would be one of the main features of iOS 11, Apple should really perfect the art of the dark interface.
iOS 11 should continue the redesign journey Apple started with iOS 10.
 
Last edited:
Geowts said:
iOS 11 will clearly end support for 32-Bit as A6 and A6X devices only got the common basic upgrades with iOS 10, Apple is clearly working on making iOS 11 64-Bit only, they want 32-Bit app developers to update their apps to 64-Bit and they mentioned that 32-Bit apps won't be compatible with never versions. My expectations:
iPhone 5s
iPhone SE
iPhone 6 series
iPhone 7 series
iPad Air and later
iPad Pro models
iPad 5th generation
iPad mini 2 and later
iPod 6th generation

Dropped support:
iPhone 5
iPhone 5c
iPad 4th generation

I'm sure Apple won't stop making iOS limited on older devices, it's basically to make people think that newer devices are more attractive and exciting.

I think that iOS 11 will include many new features, iPhone 6 will lose at least 1 or 2 main new features, while the 5s might be same. The iPhone 6 doesn't differ that much from iPhone 5s when speaking about performance but it's actually more of a hardware difference for sure.

I expect the iPhone 6s and iPhone 7 to get the same main features as they have no major differences in hardware except for the faster A10 fusion processor.

I am really glad Apple is making sure the discontinued devices are useable which is showing some improvement in how Apple ends the support of older devices.

Discontinuing the A5 devices was completely not fair considering how the last update (iOS 9) rendered them unstable and hard to use. Considering the amount of years the devices got which is either 4 or 5 years depending on the device release date is in my opinion isn't bad at all as 5 years are enough. What is bad is how these devices ended up to perform in an extremely slow manner which is apple's fault as they should've managed to fix their performance before ending support like how they did or going to do very soon with the iPhone 5 and iPad 4.

Lastly, I hope iOS 11 brings new and important features. A refreshed design is needed, iOS 10 worked on some important redesigns and I think iOS 11 should have some refreshed icons and some tweaks to the home screen along with new control and notification centres. I await the dark mode and I think it would be one of the main features of iOS 11, Apple should really perfect the art of the dark interface.
iOS 11 should continue the redesign journey Apple started with iOS 10.
Click to expand...
IOS 11 will be 64 bit only .
As for the new IOS 11 features, Iphone 6S and Iphone 7 will have all the new features that the new OS will bring . Iphone 6 and 5S will have limited feautures due to the 1GB of RAM .Iphone 6 already has limited feautures on IOS 10. IOS 11 will basically use all the power of the Iphone 5S and 6.
6 and 6 Plus are too underpowered.
As for A5 devices , Apple should have stopped updating these devices on IOS 8. Iphone 4S is a S iphone model, maybe is that the reason why they supported A5 for too long.
 
Math889 said:
IOS 11 will be 64 bit only .
As for the new IOS 11 features, Iphone 6S and Iphone 7 will have all the new features that the new OS will bring . Iphone 6 and 5S will have limited feautures due to the 1GB of RAM .Iphone 6 already has limited feautures on IOS 10. IOS 11 will basically use all the power of the Iphone 5S and 6.
6 and 6 Plus are too underpowered.
As for A5 devices , Apple should have stopped updating these devices on IOS 8. Iphone 4S is a S iphone model, maybe is that the reason why they supported A5 for too long.
Click to expand...

In my opinion, I think the only reason apple kept the A5 devices so long was the iPad mini (1st generation)
iOS 6 - iOS 9
iOS 9 is considered it's 4th update
If it ended support at iOS 8. They would've considered it to be 3 years of support while Apple normally gives support for 4-5 years. Plus it's not fair that the first gen iPad mini was sold till 2016 considering that it's chip is so weak. If Apple would have ended its support earlier, people would think it's not fair.

I agree with you that the iPhone 6 is too underpowered. The A8 is just so close to its predecessor, the A7. That's why I don't consider it much of an upgrade over the iPhone 5s because they only differ in minimal hardware capabilities. They literally have the same Touch ID, same type of display, same camera. It's just that the design is a lot different.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rui no onna
Geowts said:
In my opinion, I think the only reason apple kept the A5 devices so long was the iPad mini (1st generation)
iOS 6 - iOS 9
iOS 9 is considered it's 4th update
If it ended support at iOS 8. They would've considered it to be 3 years of support while Apple normally gives support for 4-5 years. Plus it's not fair that the first gen iPad mini was sold till 2016 considering that it's chip is so weak. If Apple would have ended its support earlier, people would think it's not fair.

I agree with you that the iPhone 6 is too underpowered. The A8 is just so close to its predecessor, the A7. That's why I don't consider it much of an upgrade over the iPhone 5s because they only differ in minimal hardware capabilities. They literally have the same Touch ID, same type of display, same camera. It's just that the design is a lot different.
Click to expand...
iPhone 6 is basically an iPhone 5s with different design just it !
I think the 6 will last one more year when the 5s get dropped . I really don't think that the 5s will be dropped next year , but , there is a possibility that Apple could drop it . Don't know.
Apple has stopped selling iPad mini 2(A7) this year. A7 is pretty powerful.
 
So, I have a iPhone 6 for a few days, with the latest iOS and I will be surprised if this thing got past iOS 11. It's ridiculously laggy compared to the 6S/7. It's almost unbearable to use at times. If someone is deciding on a 6 or 6s, spend the extra money and get the 6s. iOS 11 is going to be crap on the 6.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MacFather and Math889
nfl46 said:
So, I have a iPhone 6 for a few days, with the latest iOS and I will be surprised if this thing got past iOS 11. It's ridiculously laggy compared to the 6S/7. It's almost unbearable to use at times. If someone is deciding on a 6 or 6s, spend the extra money and get the 6s. iOS 11 is going to be crap on the 6.
Click to expand...
6 + on iOS 11 will be a terrible experience
 
  • Like
Reactions: nfl46
My prediction:

iOS 11 - won't support 32Bit devices, so that means 5/5C last update will probably be 10.3.3.
iOS 12 - won't support devices with 1GB of ram, so that means 5S/6 last update will probably be 11.3.3 (?).
 
nfl46 said:
My prediction:

iOS 11 - won't support 32Bit devices, so that means 5/5C last update will probably be 10.3.3.
iOS 12 - won't support devices with 1GB of ram, so that means 5S/6 last update will probably be 11.3.3 (?).
Click to expand...

We don't know about IOS 12 yet .Problably
iOS 11 will be the last IOS update for 5S ,problably not .

the 6 will get iOS 12 .
 
zorinlynx said:
It looks like they won't be doing that this time around with the 5 and 5c. I certainly hope so; I want legacy devices to still be usable and fast! My mother has a 5C and if iOS 11 supports it, I will be telling her not to update.
Click to expand...
The perfectly simple solution is for Apple to allow downgrading. Then people like me who can put up with slower performance can enjoy security and features and others can stay on a version they'd like.
[doublepost=1495452265][/doublepost]
Math889 said:
the 6 will get iOS 12 .
Click to expand...
That makes no sense. The 6 and 5S are nearly the same.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
Wait, why don't people think iOS 12 will drop 5s?? At least one iPhone is dropped every version of iOS.
Click to expand...
That's not what happened at all:
iOS 6 - no iPhones were dropped
iOS 9 - no iPhones were dropped

I agree that iOS 11 will most likely be 64 bit only, meaning the 5, 5c and iPad 4 will be dropped (even though they seem to be handling iOS 10 fine...).

iOS 12 becomes more complicated. Technically if you follow the pattern Apple has followed in the past no iPhones will be dropped with iOS 12 and iPhone support will go up to ~6 years from release date up from the previous ~5 years (which is where the argument that the iPhone 5s will not be dropped with iOS 12 comes from). I'm not convinced that Apple will continue that pattern though as 5 years is probably long enough. I also really can't see them dropping the 5s and the 6 series at the same time with iOS 12 despite the small performance difference.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back