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jdoll021

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What I'm looking for (and have been wanting it for iOS for years) is a redesigned home screen that can be customized like Apple Watch and looks like a cross between the current lock screen and this...
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Seriously, every platform has something like this EXCEPT Apple!

Side note, I like the swipe up control center in WatchOS 3 but Apple should add the ability to swipe left for player controls like iOS.
 

gobikerider

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With the ever increasing power of the iPads I would like to start seeing certain MacOS applications being fully incorporated into iOS. One big one being Safari why on earth can I not set a homepage on iOS yet on the Mac I can? That doesn't even take processing power. Stuff like this we're MacOS can do this extra stuff yet iOS cannot is what I'd like to see fixed. I'm not asking for Final Cut Pro and completely understand that not everything can go too iOS but little user features throughout MacOS should be on iOS as they simply allow more flexibility for the users sake and makes no sense why the same features are not available on iOS.
 

jdoll021

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With the ever increasing power of the iPads I would like to start seeing certain MacOS applications being fully incorporated into iOS. One big one being Safari why on earth can I not set a homepage on iOS yet on the Mac I can? That doesn't even take processing power. Stuff like this we're MacOS can do this extra stuff yet iOS cannot is what I'd like to see fixed. I'm not asking for Final Cut Pro and completely understand that not everything can go too iOS but little user features throughout MacOS should be on iOS as they simply allow more flexibility for the users sake and makes no sense why the same features are not available on iOS.

I quite agree. I like my iPad Pro and I can understand why Apple doesn't want to just throw MacOS onto an iPad. However, what they currently have feels more like a ballooned iPhone. They gave the watches a distinct OS and they gave the Apple TV a distinct OS both of which leverage the strengths of their respective devices. And they were right to do that. Now why can't they do that with the iPad?! The iPad is not a blown up iPhone, it's a distinct device. Yet their approach is to give it a blown up version of the iPhone's OS? What?!

The OS on the iPad needs to leverage the strengths of the iPad...the extra screen real estate, the faster speeds, the usage cases of the tablet. All of this make it a separate and distinct device. No one uses an iPad the same way as an iPhone and vice versa. Whether they continue to call it iOS or create a "TabletOS," it's time they do for the iPad what they did for the watch and TV and make the OS just as distinct as the device itself.
 

CTHarrryH

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iPads run mostly the same applications that iPhones do and Mac OS doesn't. I would think at this time people would scream loudly if all the applications that they currently run on their iPads stopped working because Mac OS was put on it. It is the applications that truly make the products worthwhile.
Sure they could do different things to take advantage of pad's size etc but not put Mac OS on it - needs to be a version of IOS that runs the apps people are used to
 

gobikerider

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iPads run mostly the same applications that iPhones do and Mac OS doesn't. I would think at this time people would scream loudly if all the applications that they currently run on their iPads stopped working because Mac OS was put on it. It is the applications that truly make the products worthwhile.
Sure they could do different things to take advantage of pad's size etc but not put Mac OS on it - needs to be a version of IOS that runs the apps people are used to
Putting MacOS on iPad is the worst thing they could do
 

jdoll021

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Sure they could do different things to take advantage of pad's size etc but not put Mac OS on it - needs to be a version of IOS that runs the apps people are used to

This was my point. Not putting MacOS on the iPad (which would be a mistake), but putting a version of iOS on the iPad that would run most of the iOS apps we're familiar with but be more optimized for the size and utility of the iPad. Right now, it's not. As gobikerider pointed out, some apps on the iPad, Safari for example, can be run at desktop class but not all apps. Yet, that doesn't mean you need to put MacOS on the iPad. It's not about creating a hybrid of iOS and MacOS for the iPad. It's about creating a version of iOS that's optimized for the iPad that can run the apps at desktop class that can handle it and leave the apps at mobile class that cannot handle it. However, I'd argue that most iOS apps could use a "tablet class" for apps that cannot handle the full desktop class on an iPad but don't need to be limited to mobile class on a device like the iPad. I think most apps would have greater usability on the iPad, but the limitations of iOS as it is (mostly for iPhone) and not sufficiently optimized for iPad, hold the apps back.
 

Michael Goff

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And yet more apps are adding options to clear caches--just this week Twitter and Dropbox added it.

Twitter needs is because the app is not that smart. It should intelligently delete files it isn't using anymore, like videos you only viewed once.

Twitter is doing it wrong.
 

ThunderMasterMind

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Putting MacOS on iPad is the worst thing they could do
Oh I beg to differ. You have to remember that it wouldn't be the same exact thing. OS X would be miserable like that. I would have 2 model iPads, one with OS X and one with iOS.
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What about iPad mini 2 will it support iOS 11?
I would imagine that it will. iOS 11 is supposed to be 64-bit only. Mini 2 is A7 64-bit. I figure Apple with slow the ever living crap out of it like they usually do with every iOS update, unless they add tons and tons of features.
 

gobikerider

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Oh I beg to differ. You have to remember that it wouldn't be the same exact thing. OS X would be miserable like that. I would have 2 model iPads, one with OS X and one with iOS.
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I would imagine that it will. iOS 11 is supposed to be 64-bit only. Mini 2 is A7 64-bit. I figure Apple with slow the ever living crap out of it like they usually do with every iOS update, unless they add tons and tons of features.
What slows the iPads down is tons and tons of features. It's not just slowed down on older devices arbitrarily
 

C DM

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Twitter needs is because the app is not that smart. It should intelligently delete files it isn't using anymore, like videos you only viewed once.

Twitter is doing it wrong.
Are any apps doing that? Seems like they just store what they want/need and let iOS take care of it if/when needed.
 

gobikerider

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Are any apps doing that? Seems like they just store what they want/need and let iOS take care of it if/when needed.
Yah that's the issue ios doesn't do **** with any of it, people are always saying they had to delete and reinstall a app to free up space. iOs and or apps needs to actually start handling this
 

EddyBSK

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In fact mini 2 come with A7 CPU that is 64 bit that mean iOS 11 will be the first to use this architecture so why don't let it use it for the first time finally. So what the meaning of that a7 cpu?
 

ThunderMasterMind

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What slows the iPads down is tons and tons of features. It's not just slowed down on older devices arbitrarily
Not necessarily. Mostly it is planned obsolescence and resources being used when it's not even relevant. The iPhone 4S is a good example of this. It ran ok on iOS 8, but iOS 9 killed it even though the version of iOS 9 the 4S had wasn't any better than iOS 8, it had miniscial features compared to newer models yet it ran twice as bad as the previous version. there isn't really much from iOS 6-10 that have value to me aside from Passbook/Wallet, Airdrop and interactive notifications(which are a little too big on iOS 10). The iMessage affects and such in iOS 10 are fun, but not really necessary, and that is more so just an app and not a booming system feature that would have such a devastating effect on the device. The things Apple has done to the OS doesn't really explain why the older devices lag like they do. iOS is supposed to have good utilization of it's hardware and as the older devices get more updates, it seems that iOS looses it's mind and doesn't know how to handle what it's processing. Heck it seems that way on my 6S just from casually using it.
 

gobikerider

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Not necessarily. Mostly it is planned obsolescence and resources being used when it's not even relevant. The iPhone 4S is a good example of this. It ran ok on iOS 8, but iOS 9 killed it even though the version of iOS 9 the 4S had wasn't any better than iOS 8, it had miniscial features compared to newer models yet it ran twice as bad as the previous version. there isn't really much from iOS 6-10 that have value to me aside from Passbook/Wallet, Airdrop and interactive notifications(which are a little too big on iOS 10). The iMessage affects and such in iOS 10 are fun, but not really necessary, and that is more so just an app and not a booming system feature that would have such a devastating effect on the device. The things Apple has done to the OS doesn't really explain why the older devices lag like they do. iOS is supposed to have good utilization of it's hardware and as the older devices get more updates, it seems that iOS looses it's mind and doesn't know how to handle what it's processing. Heck it seems that way on my 6S just from casually using it.
That's odd I've never had any issues with my Air 2 other than every iOS update causing the multitasking stuttering that usually smooths itself out by the last update of each iOS 8.4.1 iOS 9.3.5 but iOS 10 it's back :confused:
 

EddyBSK

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My iPad mini 2 come with iOS 10.2 istalled it s a 2 Months old purchase and it goes smooth so Why not with iOS 11 will be better i guess
 

C DM

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Yah that's the issue ios doesn't do **** with any of it, people are always saying they had to delete and reinstall a app to free up space. iOs and or apps needs to actually start handling this
Well, the iOS approach is that it will fee up space if and when needed so that apps wouldn't need to worry about it basically.
 
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Michael Goff

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Are any apps doing that? Seems like they just store what they want/need and let iOS take care of it if/when needed.

You're probably right with how it actually works. I can't think of any apps that do it what I consider to be right.
 
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