Does anyone know if we can convert our photo and video libraries to these new formats to save space?
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iOS 11 & HEVC/H.265?
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I went back and watched the relevant part of the keynote.
Craig clearly said "..with our latest iPhones and iOS11..".
Exactly. He didn't say "Only with iPhone 7 and iPhone 7+", instead he used a more fuzzy term like "latest iPhones", which could have been the latest 2 iPhones or latest 3 iPhones.
H.265 first appeared on iOS 8 with the iPhone 6 launch. Supposedly used for FaceTime since then, presumably to use less data on the mobile network. I think all that's changed is it's now the preferred format for 4K to also save storage space and it's available system wide. Also the A10 chip can decode it in hardware.
I'd like to add some interesting links about HEVC, HEIC, HEIF:
http://nokiatech.github.io/heif/index.html
http://blog.jpegmini.com/did-apple-kill-jpegs/
http://nokiatech.github.io/heif/index.html
http://blog.jpegmini.com/did-apple-kill-jpegs/
Dude, iOS 11 is not out yet, it's on Developer Preview 1, no one sold you iOS 11 (or iPhones for that matter) on false promises. Many iOS features have been available only to the latest devices only. Also 'latest iPhones' means exactly that: iPhone 7/7+ - you don't say latest iPhones to imply an iPhone released on 2015. As stated before, you can view/playback HEIF/HEVC on many devices as well. If you are a developer, watch the related sessions for details.
Yes, there is.
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Exactly, those people...
Dude, don't beat it. He did said "the latest iPhones..." 6s is no longer the latest. Do you agree?
I do agree that if A9 devices cannot encode HEVC then it's almost pointless whether the device can decode or not. I hate this notion of " supported devices" when in fact, some "supported" devices are going to miss the most beneficial aspect of the new format.
Ehm... the beneficial aspect of HEVC is not only recording in that format.
Streaming video with smaller load times and storing videos on devices with less space needed will all eventually benefit the user. How exactly is it pointless if I can load my new iPad (with A9) with almost double the amount of video (e.g. TV shows, Films)?
Apple supporting HEVC in iOS will give the needed push to the format - not overnight though.
For me it's like iPhone 2G/3G that helped establish the more efficient H264 back in the day instead of VP6/DivX/Sorenson etc.
"Almost pointless" is not the same as "pointless".
For me, iPhone is sort of a content creation device, I shoot photo and video with it and then offload to my mac. I am sure that's what the vast majority of people are doing as well. I stream video off internet (mostly Youtube)...i don't store content for my personal use but I can see where you are coming from.
Again, where the new format would be most beneficial is on devices with small storage (remember those 16gb SE and 6s Apple was selling last year?). Without the ability to encode, those device users will hardly notice any benefit from it.
@whohasaquestion true, I got a 16GB SE and I was disappointed that it does not record video or take live photos using hevc. Good thing though that iOS 11 will have other features to help me free up space (iMessage in the cloud, deleting unused apps without deleting their data etc) Anyway, I'm (obviously) excited that native hevc support will make my devices more versatile, e.g. allow apps like Plex to play back such content directly, without any transcoding/converting needed. It's good to have a higher efficiency format that is no longer considered a gimmick.
Try settings/camera/formats and turn on keep originals. See what that does and let me know. Only iPhone 6s. No options. I read VLC isn’t compatible unless you’ve added a codec.
I did a video recording using 4k setting for straight 17min which come to around 2gb. The nightmare start when I try to copy it out via Photos which fail and I try Airdrop to my iMac it also fail. I believe iphone7s memory is limited that why failing to convert and then transfer out.
So I have to Airdrop to my iPad Pro 12.9" and from my iPad Pro I try export to Photos which also fail but finally successfully Airdrop to my iMac. But when in my iMac the export video file is in MOV format even it had been converted to H.264, quicktime player cannot play the video and only VLC manage to play it. So I have use Handbrake to convert it to mp4 to allow the support of all the video players.
So I have to Airdrop to my iPad Pro 12.9" and from my iPad Pro I try export to Photos which also fail but finally successfully Airdrop to my iMac. But when in my iMac the export video file is in MOV format even it had been converted to H.264, quicktime player cannot play the video and only VLC manage to play it. So I have use Handbrake to convert it to mp4 to allow the support of all the video players.
it is not photo, it is video. Not sure on google photos so never try that.
I tried export without converting from iphone but I can't get the video to play with any player that claim support H.265.
Do you have High Sierra on your Mac?
Also, you may wanna try mpv player (https://mpv.io) which has good support for hevc.
No I did not have High Sierra, cause if I use high Sierra this will mean when I export photo from iPhone to Photos apps, iPhone will not be require to perform the conversion before exporting to Photos.
I also fail to mention during the process of exporting, I have to reboot my iPhone a few time cause I keep encountering error message of failing to export. I believe iPhone run out of memory. (even I'm just exporting photo also)
What about photo viewing? All I see is video player what about photo?
As posted in your other thread, no, it requires iOS 11 which is not supported by your iPhone 5. Third party apps may be able to open them.
I made this script to create playable HEVC/ h.265 videos for Mac and iOS:
https://gist.github.com/lukf/9f5721ee5dc29b2221c7338a0a5d6d33
Just transcode your videos to h265 .mp4 using HandBrake or https://cloudconvert.com, put them in a folder and run the script on that folder. The resulting files will play in QuickLook, QuickTime, Safari, iOS native video, etc. Quick and easy!
https://gist.github.com/lukf/9f5721ee5dc29b2221c7338a0a5d6d33
Just transcode your videos to h265 .mp4 using HandBrake or https://cloudconvert.com, put them in a folder and run the script on that folder. The resulting files will play in QuickLook, QuickTime, Safari, iOS native video, etc. Quick and easy!
I wish I could use your script. But the H.265 AVI files that come from my new Q-See NVR cannot be opened in HandBrake. And I just tried to convert one to mp4 with cloudconvert.com and I got an unknown codec error.
Absolutely NOT the case. The files exported from the above mentioned NVR are output as H.265 in either AVI or DAV format.
[doublepost=1497832635][/doublepost]If someone is aware of a transcode utility for Mac OS that will convert H.265 AVI to H.264 mp4, I'd sure like to know about it.
Mark