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iOS 11.x.x Release Speculation Thread
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Okay, so there is a possibility beta 5 is the final. I'm bored so I installed the profile on my Air 2, and 11.1Beta5 is only 171.5MB coming from 11.0.3. Normally the first time you install a beta on your device its the full installer. The fact that its only a delta must mean beta 5 is meant to be 11.1.
Correct me if I’m wrong but around iOS 5 or iOS 6, weren’t there switches in settings that were activated over the server without requiring an update? Something to do with automatic app downloads and iCloud. It was the same day as WWDC I think.
I’m sure Apple Pay cash will be activated the same way.
Edit: Just found out, it was with iOS 4.3.3. They updated iTunes on the server for iCloud and enabled automatic app downloads in settings.
I’m sure Apple Pay cash will be activated the same way.
Edit: Just found out, it was with iOS 4.3.3. They updated iTunes on the server for iCloud and enabled automatic app downloads in settings.
Source? I don't ever remember a server side push without an actual software update.
Remember when they turned on these switches on 4.3?
http://ipadinsight.com/ipad-tips-tr...for-apps-music-and-books-on-ipad-and-ios-4-3/
It says it requires an iOS devices running 4.3.3. I'm 99% certain they were included in 4.3.3. There is no way that was a server-side push.
Purchase history for App Store was included in 4.3. These are all iOS updated features.
iOS 4.3.3 was released a month earlier. I remember the switches just appearing out of nowhere.
Maybe it wasn’t a server push, but maybe there was code in the software for it to be activated on a certain date
I cannot find a single source that shows what you are saying. All I can find is that it was in 4.3.3. There is nothing that shows it suddenly became active a month later.
Apple rolled out the new features on June 6, and required 4.3.3-
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/0...tomatic-downloads-purchased-content-listings/
4.3.3 was released on May 4, so those new settings got activated a month later without requiring an update. I’m almost positive, I’m sure others can confirm.
According to other websites, all the code was in 4.3.
I'm assuming here. Because its part of iCloud, all they had to do was enable it on the iCloud side for it to be visible for us. Apple Pay Cash on the other hand is not part of iCloud (that I know of) and thus a server-side push to enable iCloud features probably would not work.
They cant even do iMessages in the cloud via server-side push. That actually requires code.
Tidbit: Based on my information, the Apple Pay Cash profile was/ is included in beta 4/5, but is not yet activated. Like for Apple Pay, it communicates with a serverside xml-file which is needed for the money transaction...
You think its really that simple? If you say so, I will fully believe you as you have more experience with this than anyone else here. But it seems like a really big thing to be turned on by a xml-file.
The transaction is encrypted on the sending side using an extend iMessage API and decrypted on the receiving side. It’s nothing more than sending an attachment via iMessage.
The main testing issue is the transfer Apple Pay Cash card to your personal account (cc issuer to Bank which is not a common transaction). And the setup process of the Apple Pay Cash card, as Apple has to comply with various authentication processes (SSN in the US, PostIndent in Europe).
Unfortunately not, as I received a tidbit by colleagues who are aware with the German implementation and analyzed the betas in the past.
Seems like it did need an iOS update, it's just that in this case it was probably part of an earlier already released update and was just sitting there unused until Apple flipped a server-side switch essentially.And they said it couldn't be done.
HAHA Exactly, a server side change but not a NEW update to iOS 11.1 was being stated as fact. It was being sold as another iOS update (11.1) not an iOS update we already had LOL. But yeah sure it needs some update at some point
. If you recall, the whole issue came about regarding the message that new Apple Pay countries were becoming available this week on Tuesday and the speculation went to the idea that wasn't possible unless iOS 11.1 was being released because it required a new iOS to do so. Madscotsman threw into the mix that perhaps the new countries were being officially "announced" on Tuesday but not actually available until later (perhaps just after 11.1 released) as a possibility, since 11.1 was not being released this week. But as we now know they did so server side which makes more since.Well, I think the main idea there was that new countries need an OS release. And they did in this case as well, it's just that they were part of an earlier iOS release and simply weren't being used or even seen until essentially activated at some point later.HAHA Exactly, a server side change but not a NEW update to iOS 11.1 was being stated as fact. It was being sold as another iOS update (11.1) not an iOS update we already had LOL. But yeah sure it needs some update at some point
So the part about them needing an iOS release seems to be true, while the part about them needing a new release beyond what's already out is essentially more in the unknown area since we don't really know if they were potentially already included in a previous release and are just sitting there quietly, or if they aren't there at all, in which case it would seem that a new iOS release would be needed.
And all of this (re Apple Pay Cash) may be moot if the article I link to below is correct. “If” being the operative word, as the story is somewhat sketchily sourced and is referring to WatchOS 4.1, not iOS 11.1.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/25/leak...e-notes-suggest-no-apple-pay-cash-w-ios-11-1/
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/25/leak...e-notes-suggest-no-apple-pay-cash-w-ios-11-1/
Well yeah not disputing they need AN OS. Of course thats true.
Just not a NEW update (11.1) as was stated. Server side enabling is quite possible as we just saw. Fact remains no iOS 11.1 released and these countries got Apple Pay turned on/enabled in their current release of iOS. Thats the point. Nothing more. It was stated over and over that it was not possible and that a new iOS release would be required before those new countries would get it.
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Yeah, I think the part that was getting overlooked is that the countries could have been essentially quietly included in a prior iOS update.Well yeah not disputing they need AN OS. Of course thats true.
Only 171,5 MB is pretty small for a big jump like that , even the updates we got after 11 release were bigger , like 600 MB if I remember well.
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