Isn't the public beta released with the second beta now? I think they said the end of the month for that
Isn't the public beta released with the second beta now? I think they said the end of the month for that
It came with DP 2 last year because DP 1 was a three week beta. I suspect it will be exactly the same this year. We are not getting a beta 2 this week. WWDC was last week, everyone that works on the software was busy. Beta 2 would be the earliest next week, but that breaks the late June timeline for PB1 (which means last week for Apple).No. It’s released when the beta reaches a certain level of stability. I think it will come along side dev beta 3 or 4.
You are correct. Last year and for the last year of iOS, PB has come with second DP. Apple said the end of the month, so that means we will see it with DP 2. Whether its next week or the week after is uncertain, but my money is on the week of the 26th.Isn't the public beta released with the second beta now? I think they said the end of the month for that
This is a little different. You are talking about 10 years of iOS betas, following the same exact pattern. PB is newer, only a couple years old. But they have followed a very similar pattern with that too. It clearly works, so they won't change it.I feel like as soon as people proclaim they know exactly how Apple works based on patterns, they do something different anyways.
From all my readings on here, it seems to be phones that are less stable. My iPad Air 2 is pretty solid, a couple hiccups but definitely no lag or slow down compared to those with 7Plus'. So its possible its just the initial beta and 2 will be rock solid for all devices, meaning it would be a perfect candidate for PB. I think Apple wants to seed PB earlier because it allows for more time for feedback and fixes.iOS 10 public beta was out with db2 three weeks after db1.
But iOS 10b1 (as others here have pointed out) was far more stable initially.
This is a little different. You are talking about 10 years of iOS betas, following the same exact pattern. PB is newer, only a couple years old. But they have followed a very similar pattern with that too. It clearly works, so they won't change it.
Not the first beta though. Even with 10.3.3, the first beta was 2 weeks. And if there is another 10.3.3, that will again be another 2 weeks.I don't necessarily think the beta is coming out today, but what the oft-linked bar chart doesn't spell out very well is that Apple's DP/PB releases are trending shorter.
Beta 2 last year was the first PB.Well, Beta 2 of any large iOS release has never dropped in a 7 day timespan, generally being 2-3 weeks. Looks to be about the same for Beta 3 too. I don't think we've ever reached Beta 3 under 4 weeks time from Beta 1 dropping.
So if history is any indication, Beta 2 will come next week with Public Beta shortly thereafter (if Apple sticks to their "late June" promise), which is slightly concerning seeing as Beta 2 will need to be a lot more solid for any level of "public" deployment.
Highly unlikely. tvOS is not even getting a true update this year. Also the build number is the same, just the version was updated from 15J5284e to 15J5284g. It is probably just an installation issue revision that has been done several times with iOS.Apple just seeded a new tvOS 11 preview yesterday:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tvos-11-beta-new-seed-released.2050404/
iOS 11 DP2 is probably imminent
One, its speculation, two, its been 10 years of this. Apple develops patterns. Yes they throw curve balls, but over 10 years, its followed almost the same format.Sure are a lot of people in here that seem to think they know exactly what’s going to happen...
Sure are a lot of people in here that seem to think they know exactly what’s going to happen...
Speculation is fine, its certainly the point of the thread, but some (even you at times) have passed off an opinion in a decidedly non-speculative manner. Just trying to help keep everyone honest.
Sure are a lot of people in here that seem to think they know exactly what’s going to happen...
This is probably correct.Ohh, he won't be happy! You thief!
I will start it off.
DP 2 = June 26th
PB 1 = June 28th
An opinion in a non-speculative manner? Speculation is just that, opinion. A fact, is a non-speculative matter. So I cannot be guilty of passing off an opinion in a non-speculative matter, because an opinion is subjective, not objective.Speculation is fine, its certainly the point of the thread, but some (even you at times) have passed off an opinion in a decidedly non-speculative manner. Just trying to help keep everyone honest.
It probably won't be this week, but Apple has developed a schedule. Two weeks between beta 1 and 2. I highly think we'll see Beta 2 next week, not the week after that and then Public Beta 1 with iOS 11 dev beta 3 the week after. However I could be wrong.Highly unlikely. tvOS is not even getting a true update this year. Also the build number is the same, just the version was updated from 15J5284e to 15J5284g. It is probably just an installation issue revision that has been done several times with iOS.
Guys, stop arguing. Jeez. Slow your roll and take a chill pill.An opinion in a non-speculative manner? Speculation is just that, opinion. A fact, is a non-speculative matter. So I cannot be guilty of passing off an opinion in a non-speculative matter, because an opinion is subjective, not objective.
It probably won't be this week, but Apple has developed a schedule. Two weeks between beta 1 and 2. I highly think we'll see Beta 2 next week, not the week after that and then Public Beta 1 with iOS 11 dev beta 3 the week after. However I could be wrong.