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iOS 11.x.x Release Speculation Thread

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sunny2k1 said:
I highly doubt that. A final version is only as good as its betas. The main glitches were introduced with iOS 11/watchOS/tvOS/macOS. My guess, Apple wants to introduce too much features alongside the new iPhones and iPad Pro lineup. For iPads, IOS 11 was la radical in using and behavior.

In addition to the new iPhone features (e.g. Apple Pay Cash, new Control Center and adjustments for FaceID on iPhone X) it was way too many features which shifted the focus from security issue and bug fixing.

My biggest problem here: A lot of people use the public beta program to have the new and fancy software instead of actually supporting Apple to solve the problems.
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I completely agree with your last paragraph. I think Apple thought PB would help find more bugs. But I think it completely backfired. Now you got everyone who is interested in new features running betas and no one reporting bugs.
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sbailey4 said:
That may be partially true but they get plenty of the same feedback version after version and same issues seem to get ignored quite frequently. Take the calculator app for example. Like 20+ versions or more of an iOS 11 (including betas) to finally address it. Same for a lot of other issues as well, so it would seem Apple is ignoring or taking its time to address the feedback they already get more than they are not getting enough feedback. IMHO.
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It’s takes so many version because they are ahead internally. Then these bugs, like the calculator or safari keyboard abc bug, are not top priority. I would get response to the feedback I left about the abc bug every couple weeks saying it was being investigated. Then I got feedback saying it would be fixed in 10.2. They look at the feedback but I think more potential catastrophic issues take precedent over some glitches and hiccups.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
I completely agree with your last paragraph. I think Apple thought PB would help find more bugs. But I think it completely backfired. Now you got everyone who is interested in new features running betas and no one reporting bugs.
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It’s takes so many version because they are ahead internally. Then these bugs, like the calculator or safari keyboard abc bug, are not top priority. I would get response to the feedback I left about the abc bug every couple weeks saying it was being investigated. Then I got feedback saying it would be fixed in 10.2. They look at the feedback but I think more potential catastrophic issues take precedent over some glitches and hiccups.
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While people do need to actively report bugs (and I agree, most use PB to have "cutting edge" software), I think that Apple having the ability of more iOS devices in the field being able to send automatic crash reports is more helpful than nothing at all.
 
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Has anybody else noticed a sudden, unexplained battery drain since yesterday? I feel yesterday was a typical, normal use day for me. I woke up today and was surprized that my phone was at only 29% battery. I usually put it on charge after I get up, before I leave for work.
I use no messaging apps, etc. I typically only listen to music for a couple of hours in Pandora or Spotify. Other than that I really only use the phone to check the time and sometimes weather. I realize there could be alot of variables to this, but could this partially be caused by the fore mentioned bug that was supposed to occur on the 2nd?

Iphone 6 with the latest beta
 
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sbailey4 said:
That may be partially true but they get plenty of the same feedback version after version and same issues seem to get ignored quite frequently. Take the calculator app for example. Like 20+ versions or more of an iOS 11 (including betas) to finally address it. Same for a lot of other issues as well, so it would seem Apple is ignoring or taking its time to address the feedback they already get more than they are not getting enough feedback. IMHO.
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They only fix problems when it makes it to the news. Like you said, the calculator bug for example.
 
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mfender said:
Has anybody else noticed a sudden, unexplained battery drain since yesterday? I feel yesterday was a typical, normal use day for me. I woke up today and was surprized that my phone was at only 29% battery. I usually put it on charge after I get up, before I leave for work.
I use no messaging apps, etc. I typically only listen to music for a couple of hours in Pandora or Spotify. Other than that I really only use the phone to check the time and sometimes weather. I realize there could be alot of variables to this, but could this partially be caused by the fore mentioned bug that was supposed to occur on the 2nd?
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What does the Settings app say about your battery usage?
 
Dwalls90 said:
While people do need to actively report bugs (and I agree, most use PB to have "cutting edge" software), I think that Apple having the ability of more iOS devices in the field being able to send automatic crash reports is more helpful than nothing at all.
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How many PB testers really tests their software? Look at Changes-thread here in that board, they ignore pretty much that this is beta. If the phone crashes, they cry like babies that their phone is not working. This ridiculous. It is still a beta.

Mlrollin91 said:
That is so completely false and you know it. By that logic no bugs would ever be fixed unless it made the news. And both you and I know that’s false.
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For this years os-lineup might be applicable. The last years this was not the case.
 
Paddle1 said:
What does the Settings app say about your battery usage?
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Unfortuately, nothing because I swiped all of the apps out in the app switcher, which I rarely ever do and then just rebooted the phone
I have the Iphone 6 with the latest beta. Battery Life reports a 91% wear level. Lirium reports 88% wear level.
 
mfender said:
Unfortuately, nothing because I swiped all of the apps out in the app switcher, which I rarely ever do and then just rebooted the phone
I have the Iphone 6 with the latest beta. Battery Life reports a 91% wear level.
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Removing apps out of the app switcher does not remove battery statistics per app. Rebooting the phone only erases the “since last charged time”. Again, not affecting app usage being reported.
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
Removing apps out of the app switcher does not remove battery statistics per app. Rebooting the phone only erases the “since last charged time”. Again, not affecting app usage being reported.
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The phone is charging now and the statistics are blank. It reports that they will be shown when the phone is fully charged again.
 
mfender said:
The phone is charging now and the statistics are blank. It reports that they will be shown when the phone is fully charged again.
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The app statistics? If that’s a case you are experiencing a bug. Those never reset on their own. Only after 7 days of not using the device.
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
The app statistics? If that’s a case you are experiencing a bug. Those never reset on their own. Only after 7 days of not using the device.
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How do I attach a screenshot from my Iphone? I only see and image URL option, none directly from my phone?
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mfender said:
How do I attach a screenshot from my Iphone? I only see and image URL option, none directly from my phone?
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Inserting a shareable link from dropbox did not work
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Mlrollin91 said:
I completely agree with your last paragraph. I think Apple thought PB would help find more bugs. But I think it completely backfired. Now you got everyone who is interested in new features running betas and no one reporting bugs.
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It’s takes so many version because they are ahead internally. Then these bugs, like the calculator or safari keyboard abc bug, are not top priority. I would get response to the feedback I left about the abc bug every couple weeks saying it was being investigated. Then I got feedback saying it would be fixed in 10.2. They look at the feedback but I think more potential catastrophic issues take precedent over some glitches and hiccups.
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Yeah it seems nothing that is reported is 'top priority' though. beta after beta no changes are evident. While there are certainly under the hood fixes, clearly Apple opts to work on those under the hood issues as 'top priority' that they already are aware of and most users are not aware of thus not reporting them all the while leaving the UI and apps that are being reported that effect real usability of the OS/device not working, or crashing etc. And I do agree there are most likely a LOT of PB testers not physically reporting issues but the built in diagnostics still get sent to Apple. Bottom line I don't believe its the lack of feedback that is the issue. Again the calculator is prime example that would not require any feedback to know it wasn't working as all they had to to was try and use it. Anyway wouldn't say that PB was a backfire simply because the auto diagnostics being sent back should be a benefit for Apple if nothing else.
 
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