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Chazzle

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I am VERY VERY dissapointed that they took away messages in Icloud!! So bad Apple!
I would be MUCH, MUCH more disappointed if they left it in and I lost messages. I understand your dissappointment though. I am looking forward to it, but I’m happy to wait until it’s properly ready. I know they should have waited to announce it, but there have been a lot of “should haves” with Apple in the past 6 months and I’m glad it sounds like they are finally acknowledging them.
 

ras113

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I would be MUCH, MUCH more disappointed if they left it in and I lost messages. I understand your dissappointment though. I am looking forward to it, but I’m happy to wait until it’s properly ready. I know they should have waited to announce it, but there have been a lot of “should haves” with Apple in the past 6 months and I’m glad it sounds like they are finally acknowledging them.

But, with backup you could not lose to much messages. If they could do photos in icloud, it should not be any bigger problems to solve it. They actually put messages in ios 11 beta. Its 9-10 months now they cant resolve it.

Its also a function that many many people want. Do dont they listen on us, us who have had iphones for so many years?
 

Chazzle

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But, with backup you could not lose to much messages. If they could do photos in icloud, it should not be any bigger problems to solve it. They actually put messages in ios 11 beta. Its 9-10 months now they cant resolve it.

Its also a function that many many people want. Do dont they listen on us, us who have had iphones for so many years?
All I know is that I trust Apple’s engineers if they feel there’s good reason to pull it. I’m no software engineer, so who am I to say something is easy to implement?
 

Mlrollin91

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Nov 20, 2008
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Its official - Apple has literally changed everything. Over 11 years of precedent has been changed this week. macOS got a beta and final in the same week. This was the last pattern that Apple had kept over the last 11 years, and just shows how much we all know - nothing at all.
 
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C DM

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Its official - Apple has literally changed everything. Over 11 years of precedent has been changed this week. macOS got a beta and final in the same week. This was the last pattern that Apple had kept over the last 11 years, and just shows how much we all know - nothing at all.
Things have been breaking patters on quite a few occasions with various releases over the last year or so. There are still a few "patterns" that seem to apply often enough (like the 10 AM US Pacific release timeframe), but even those have more and more exceptions recently.
 

Mlrollin91

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Things have been breaking patters on quite a few occasions with various releases over the last year or so. There are still a few "patterns" that seem to apply often enough (like the 10 AM US Pacific release timeframe), but even those have more and more exceptions recently.
Yeah. My point was this was the last pattern to be broken without any exception. Im sure it will still continue as it has. But this is the first time the "rule" has been broken.
 

C DM

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Yeah. My point was this was the last pattern to be broken without any exception. Im sure it will still continue as it has. But this is the first time the "rule" has been broken.
The only real "rule" in play these days seems to be basically to expect the unexpected (or in some sense not to expect anything at all).
 

chrfr

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Jul 11, 2009
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Its official - Apple has literally changed everything. Over 11 years of precedent has been changed this week. macOS got a beta and final in the same week. This was the last pattern that Apple had kept over the last 11 years, and just shows how much we all know - nothing at all.
The pattern you've missed that still continues is that because all of Apple's OSes share so much code, they share security vulnerabilities. If Apple releases the security notes for one OS, you know the others will be released at about the same time. It was inevitable that 10.13.4 would have been released either yesterday or today.
 

Arni99

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Feb 26, 2011
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First beta will be soon...clearly not today because of the weekend...
The weekend is no reason for Apple not to release a beta. Any IT-company has 24/7 every day of the year. If there was an issue with the beta any of us who installed it should be capable of using restore or dfu mode. Those who are not familiar with those techniques shouldn’t install betas anyway.
 
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C DM

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The weekend is no reason for Apple not to release a beta. Any IT-company has 24/7 every day of the year. If there was an issue with the beta any of us who installed it should be capable of using restore or dfu mode. Those who are not familiar with those techniques shouldn’t install betas anyway.
While things like that can be done, they are generally avoided unless there are some particular reasons that would prompt something like that.
 

C DM

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My bet is on 11.3.5, I have a feeling they will reserve .1 - .4 for quick bug fix releases
Well, even with something like that, it would still mean that there's a good chance that 11.3.1 would be next.
 
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