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iOS 11.x.x Release Speculation Thread
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No. I won't trust you. You have been wrong like 10 times and right once, and that only because a broken clock is right twice a day.Beta 5 monday 100 % , trust me
Not once has beta 4 of iOS x.0 been a week. Shortest is 8 days.
Posting it every day is really annoying. So please stop.
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Let's please stop with the "Beta 5 Monday" meme posts. It is just cluttering up the thread. Thanks
Let's please stop with the "Beta 5 Monday" meme posts. It is just cluttering up the thread. Thanks
Considering the fact that if they keep the 2 weeks cycle there will be only 2 betas for August which is not enought in order to perfect the OS, so yeah fingers crossed for tomorrow
You cannot use last year to predict this year. First, WWDC was 8 days earlier this year, 6/5 vs 6/13, so Apple has more time this year if in theory the Sept event remains near the same date; September 6.
So in theory Apple doesn't have to rush betas out and have an extra 8 days, more if the fall event is after 9/6 too.
It also depends how bad the bug being fixed is if they rush out a 1 week update. They are rarer than 2 week releases. And I cant think of 1 glaring bug (overall buginess yes) that needs fixing immediately right now urgently.
But the issue then becomes as said, if beta 5 is 8/7 and Beta 6 is 8/21, it doesnt leave much time for much more than that at 2 weeks intervals; maybe 1 more on 9/4 if the event is later this year. And it sees that we need more than 2 betas before GM still with the bugs.
So in theory Apple doesn't have to rush betas out and have an extra 8 days, more if the fall event is after 9/6 too.
It also depends how bad the bug being fixed is if they rush out a 1 week update. They are rarer than 2 week releases. And I cant think of 1 glaring bug (overall buginess yes) that needs fixing immediately right now urgently.
But the issue then becomes as said, if beta 5 is 8/7 and Beta 6 is 8/21, it doesnt leave much time for much more than that at 2 weeks intervals; maybe 1 more on 9/4 if the event is later this year. And it sees that we need more than 2 betas before GM still with the bugs.
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I exactly think like this. iOS 11 is way more buggy than predecessors and need frequency in release cycle to polish the os to final ReleaseConsidering the fact that if they keep the 2 weeks cycle there will be only 2 betas for August which is not enought in order to perfect the OS, so yeah fingers crossed for tomorrow
1 week updates are so rare that the back end of iOS 10 had multiples in succession? Hardly rare.
iOS 10
Beta 4 lasted 8 days
Beta 5 lasted 6 days
Beta 6 lasted 4 days
Beta 7 lasted 7 days
Them releasing Beta 5 of 11 this week wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
As for 1 glaring bug that needs fixing quickly how about the fact that messages on the cloud doesn't work for a fair few people? Considering it's a major feature of iOS 11 I'd think that would need fixing and testing properly before release, don't you?
Mmh, based on the two week cycle, iOS 11 would receive three more betas (including the last which might be the GM). This would happen in CW 32 (next week), CW 34, CW 36. If the rumoured event is in CW 37, you will see 4 more betas, while the fourth beta would probably be the GM.
For me personally there some minor glitches (which might need an iTunes update). Additionally, iOS 11 does not have those big features in the past. Plus many features can't be tested. It is interesting, that Apple published the latest PB the day right after the initial launch of the latest DB.
I do see Apple have some internal testing efforts here as it mainly effects the iCloud services.
Apple Pay P2P isn't implemented in official DB/PB yet, but I don't expect this to happen prior the GM or even the final version.
For me personally there some minor glitches (which might need an iTunes update). Additionally, iOS 11 does not have those big features in the past. Plus many features can't be tested. It is interesting, that Apple published the latest PB the day right after the initial launch of the latest DB.
I do see Apple have some internal testing efforts here as it mainly effects the iCloud services.
Apple Pay P2P isn't implemented in official DB/PB yet, but I don't expect this to happen prior the GM or even the final version.
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Did you miss the part of the post where he said you can't use last year to predict this year? iOS 10 is the only version of iOS to have betas roll out that quickly. This is because there was less time between WWDC and Sept event.
Additionally. Most iCloud features don't become functional until the GM.
GM doesn't come out until the event and there is usually a 2-3 week gap between the last beta and the event because they are loading the GM on devices in production.
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Clearly you weren't here for iOS 5/6/7/8. iOS 11 is hardly way more buggy than predecessors.
Sure let’s go with Apple are going to stick to a 2 week cycle despite headline features of iOS 11 not working properly yet, so 2 more releases then?
I personally believe we will see a more regular release cycle, let’s see who’s correct.
It’s amazing you think WWDC is responsible for them moving to a 7 day or less release cycle towards the end of iOS 10 when WWDC was only like a week later.
I personally believe we will see a more regular release cycle, let’s see who’s correct.
It’s amazing you think WWDC is responsible for them moving to a 7 day or less release cycle towards the end of iOS 10 when WWDC was only like a week later.
It's was 8 days, not a week. So it would be tomorrow. Not today. But as mentioned throughout this thread. iOS 10 is the exception and not the rule. Go look through all of iOS beta testing cycles. Most iOS X.0 betas stopped at beta 4/5.
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Did you miss where I said iCloud functions typically don't become functional until the GM? iCloud Photo Library didn't work until the last beta or the GM. This isn't unusual. This is because they typically wipe whats in iCloud storage that is beta related before the GM rolls out.
Yeah Apple must be asking me to install iCloud profiles and try and sync messages cause it’s not supposed to be working yet right?
Messages on iCloud is supposed to be working on the beta.
Messages on iCloud is supposed to be working on the beta.
The interesting thing here is: this feature really comes into play with macOS. One could assume that the final launch comes later than usual.
Additional with all those rumors around the delayed production of the new iPhones. So if Apple pushes the event back a a week or two, they can release macOS and iOS on the same day
Where did I say it's not supposed to be working? I said these features typically aren't functional until the end of the beta cycle as they are backend server bugs. The bugs are on their side, not the iOS side. It's a syncing service. They want the profile so they can pinpoint issues on their end. It's really not that complicated. Having more betas will not fix that.
Hence the reason why you got the iCloud backup profile. Not an iOS software bug.
[doublepost=1501511519][/doublepost]Another reason why people can't use the iOS 10.0 beta cycle to predict iOS 11 is because the fact that 10.0 was never released. It was 10.0.1. iOS 10 is nothing but an exception to a 10 year rule.
They literally went from 10.0 Beta 7 -> 10.0.1. That had never been done before.
[doublepost=1501511851][/doublepost]I hope people do realize, that longer the gap between betas there is more time to fix issues. Faster the betas come out, that means Apple has to stop bug fixing to prepare for another build to be seeded. If they keep working without worrying about seeding preparation, more can be accomplished. The reason beta cycles speed up is when all major bugs have been fixed and they are seeding builds to fix minor ones. So at this point with everyone complaining that its still buggy, a longer cycles is better.
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Well, if that makes him 3/3 then I will obviously believe his source. I'm still wary of him, but because his date matches my prediction from last week, then I am going to believe him this time around.He just "confirmed" Beta 5 is coming next week
As I mentioned Thursday.
Back to speculating:
Beta 5 Aug 7th
Beta 6 Aug 21st (final beta if event is Sept 6th)
Beta 7 Aug 28th (final beta if event is Sept 12th)
GM day of event. Will be either Sept. 6th or Sept. 12th.
Funny how some people are so intent on arguing that they're right about when a beta update is going to be released
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